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    krazystyler: [hmm]

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    Sibo,

    I am not sure the documentary om ABC last night was merely an infomercial. I think a number of people who watched it would have found it very funny and viewed it with an ironic eye.

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    Jack, you’re right. I don’t have my own PPOR, but I might be able to afford it now :)

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    Dale,

    You’re a “real estate officer”. Wouldn’t the people who work in your field have many and varied ideas about real estate? Neg gearing as a monopoly idea of RE is about ten years old now. Most real estate people I know are pretty up with all kinds of strategies these days.

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    ummm… folks- who says this decision won’t be replicated in other states?

    Presumably this decision relates to properties that we already own. So even if we own an IP in Qld or tassie, a couple of years down the track, we could get the same tax anywhere.

    But hg- I’ll still be buying- even in nsw if I wanna. I guess I’ll just be buying properties that I know will still stand up until I die :)

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    There’s a lovely quote on rick otton’s weblog:

    “last thursday a lady drops 65k of the house price just so I can give her 19k deposit today to pay an unpaid bill”

    http://rickotton.blogspot.com/

    Love the way these guys “help” people! [cigar]

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    Here’s some of my hit predictions of a few implications:

    * a drop in flips
    * buy and hold forever -> less properties on the market -> increasing demand for IP’s. Either that can be made up by new stock. Older, more affordable stock will increase in price for those new to the market who can’t afford the new stuff.
    * less stock on the market may lead to a lack of interest in RE in the community generally. Maybe investors will be able to benefit from a flat market.

    What do other people think?

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    Just to clarify, does this mean we pay stamp duty upon purchase AND upon sale? or only upon sale?

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    mortgage brokers charge fees to borrowers, residentialwealth? I didn;t know that- I thought they worked for credit providers, and got paid by them.

    Simon, I remember seeing an article like that before. Would mortgage brokers be obliged to disclose to clients if they have a “special interest” in a particular bank or financial institution? Or is the deregulated nature of the industry such that no disclosure is legally enforceable?

    The “late night visit” thing is not a bad thing, I reckon. Most property investors work for a living, so when else are we supposed to get it sorted? I guess in many industries, they might call that being “customer-focussed” or “flexible” to clients’ needs. I thought my mortgage broker was great on his late night sojourns. [king]

    But as with any industry, clients have a right to know if they are being casually coerced into a product if the broker is receiving kickbacks.

    A bit or regulation won’t kill that sector. I wonder what form it will take though.

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    I agree Steve. I’m always up for debate on the issues. Namecalling is never warranted. I imagine you’ll understand that I chose to quote you when you said a person in any circumstances could become a property millionaire, because there was an inference i was making that up.

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    It is not about “winning”. It is about having a discussion. We discuss media reports from the REI’s, Residex, all over the place- I thought everything was discussible.

    It’s all about due diligence. If we get involved in something and things go wrong, we are told (on this forum) that it’s our fault, we were greedy, we didn’t check enough, had no idea what we were doing, don’t come sobbing to me, that we are stupid etc. with noone to blame but ourselves. These are words from our fellow forum members. We didn’t do our due diligence, so no support from us!

    On the other hand, if we ask questions, raise concerns about things, we might then be told to shut up, piss off, we’re just bringing down a tall poppy, we’re jealous, we’re bitter, we’re negative, naysayers and tyrekickers etc etc… these are also thoughts from our gentle forum members :o)

    So we’re damned if we do question and damned if we don’t!

    Mini, I’ll just refer to you personally, as you have referred to me. When you felt a need to question a member of this forum some time ago, you were able to do so. Other members of the forum could understand your concerns. You were able to express them. Why do you think the “kay henry’s of the world” are so problematic? We all ask questions, we all have doubts- you have had them about some things in life, and I have them too at times.

    If I am one member and there are 4000 other members who disagree with me, then it’s all fine. There’s no need for people to be so angry. Steve is a multimillionaire who has done very well in life, has a loving family, and is by all accounts, a very personable man. I am just a little kay henry :)

    It’s not a competition, of course- I never said it was- that’s another’s words. It’s just a discussion.

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    How would we build roads, schools, hospitals, public transport, if there was no income tax? Guess we could all voluntarily put in a bit each week.

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    Very cute, redwing :o) Thanks for that! [fez]

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    geo :)

    I may be wrong in my estimate of 10 bucks a week (happy to admit if I am wrong :)

    I was thinking about the following scenario- and I’m not good on numbers, so bear with me. (sorry Bear!)

    Say a 50k property with $120 rent. With interest, some repairs, landlord protection insurance, rates, and all the costs associated with borrowing (including valuation), QS report, property management costs, that would be around $10 profit a week- net.

    There are a lot of examples on this board where people have done the sums to check out the net return. Some of them say an amount like $3.72 or something. I am thinking of all the costs it takes to maintain a property- and they are substantial.

    Of course, people earn greater returns- some do, some don’t.

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    Who is saying we don’t want people to succeed, im a god? It’s called doing “due diligence” remember? We’re all told to check and clarify everything we do about RE. We’re told to take personal responsibility and check out claims etc. It’s quite natural to question things, and it keeps us safe. Are you suggesting we should believe everything we are told in RE?

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    I remember when the MAP stuff was first shown. The idea was to make “property millionaires” in 1 year. That was then changed some months later to “controlling 1 million of property”- a VERY different concept. Elsewhere on here, in a topic which showed people being ripped off in two-tiered scams, the dominant theme by many, was about people taking individual responsibility.

    Many of us would have seen the claims about making property millionaires in one year on TT. We have also had discussions on here about what that means- it means “net 1 million of property”, NOT controlling one million.

    What usually happens after these media stories, is that the blame is attributed- false quotes, not what it seems etc etc.

    When the story first came out, Steve surely would have asked TT to clarify about “controlling” wouldn;t he? They could have made an apology and all would have been well. Also, any person with knowledge of RE, would have known that “controlling” 1 mill of property involves putting a deposit on a house in sydney. So it wouldn’t have really been a story after all.

    Who’s responsible for the “created impression” that “ordinary Australians”, in any circumstances of life, could become property milloinaires in 1 year?

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    Ohh, it’s ok Ruggy. Acey’s got a sense of [lmao] I am sure he would appreciate the [whip] references even if they are [offtopic]. Sorry for [B)] you Cel. I just got carried away [biker]

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    Dear Jay,

    I have no issue with your tone, nor your words. I don’t see any spruiker making a promise that is not possible, as one better than the other. I have certainly not been an apologist for any guru. I love property, but not sycophancy. And I respect your sentiments, Jay.

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    Originally posted by Celivia:

    Pretty happy … Except when you get beaten[whip][whip] Ouch Kay that hurt.

    ummm… hello? It’s supposed to!

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    Originally posted by Celivia:

    Kay beat me

    [whip]

    [whip] Take it back, Cel- I did not! [whip]

    hehe- oops! [offtopic] Can’t have that! Quick- look serious! [hmm]

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