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eeeeeeeeek! wayne- you’re right!! [blush2]
kay henry
5 units @ 80k each seems prety good- PARTICULARLY if they are on the beach!
Bear in mind, that 40k return is 5% yield on 400k. Are the units strata titled? Are you into reno’s?
Re your last question, if you see something you consider a good deal, why not go for it? 400k is a reasonable investment for 5 properties
kay henry
Becoming my conscience, Derek? I DARE ya! When you have finished messing with my conscience, will I look like this? [eh] or this? [exhappy]
And I am supposed to come home and not watch crap TV?? What *else* is there to do? Or am I missing out on one of life’s secrets? I do meaningful work for a living. Whn I come home, I wanna be like this: [upsidedown] It’s good to shut down, sometimes, don’t you think?
kay henry
God, pocketscience- can’t you extend the settlement period until the new rules apply? What will it cost you? I am sure it will make the new vendor happy and it won’t bother you too much at all.
kay henry
Depends on wehich properties one is buying into (re the original question). think Lorne, Vic; think Berry, NSW; or Bowral, NSW. They all have a population of a few hundred, but you would have NO problem getting a loan for them (might find it hard to get entry in those places though- they’re exxy).
I just bought into a place with a few hundred people… BUT… it’s oceanfront, with national park behind it, and has one of the greatest natural structures Australia has. It’s a tourist destination basically, but with a solid population (albeit small) throughout the year. There are NO vacant rental houses there currently. And I don’t have to rely on abbatoirs/factory/mining industries to sustain it.
If you are buying into an area with a small population, there are different ones- some are isolated country towns; some are untouched treasures. The place I am buying into had 700,000 visitors to it last year.
So all small towns are different. Of course, EVERY place one buys int- whether it be an innercity area, a country town, or a coastal village- requires research. Do your research first, then put in an offer.
kay henry
Well, I am sure Steve didn’t say “don’t do any research on the town”, Russ! Thinking outside the square doesn’t mean not checking for floodzones, industry, employment, crime, population decrease/growth, capital gain or loss in the last few years in the town. Due diligence is essential. I am sure you would have wanted those people who you spotted for, to do all their checking right? It only takes a few hours to look up so many things about a town- what’s wrong with that? You wouldn’t buy shares without reading a prospectus, well, I wouldn’t buy a house without doing PLENTY of research.
Make google.com your friend, folks.
kay henry
Thanks for that Derek! [rolleyesanim] [tongue]
kay henry
What is DCF Analysis?
kay henry
elves :o))
There is a recent book about siblings and favouritism by parents. Most parents say they don’t favour children one over the other, and that they treat them all the same. But when they ask the children, the children generally have a very different idea- and see that some children are clearly favoured over the other. The book is about how the kids end up- what they end up doing, and it’s the first book about parents favouring. The kids who say their parents favour another sibling, are often the ones who end up with poorer life opportunities- perhaps it’s a self-esteem thing. I guess kids know if they are not treated equally as favourably, it can’t help but affect them.
kay henry
I’ll be retiring at 65- go figure- I enjoy my work. It also has benefits… superannuation, long service leave etc etc. Someone asked me today if I would retire if my income from IP’s equalled my wages… and I said “well, if I have wages PLUS that again from IP’s, then I have double! Not sure I understand everyone wanting to retire so quickly.
Sometimes I think people call themselves retired when they’re actually unemployed or on a pension. Not quite the same.
kay henry
Russ,
I’ve just answered my own questions by going back to your original post about the property (“What do you think of my garden?”)
So the place is 163k and will rent for $150. That’s about a 4% return. I also saw that you’ve had it listed with both agents in the town. Is the other one still working for you?
Why don’t you advertise it on the Somersoft.com forum. They have a “caveat emptor” forum there where you can advertise your home. You’ll have to provide details such as land size, house size in squares or square metres, details of any reno’s, capital growth history and prospects of Dongara, etc etc. They’ll ask you those questions anyway, so may as well provide them straight up.
hey’re more into negative gearing on Somersoft, so your house will probably be attractive to them- if the capital growth prospects add up.
kay henry
Russ,
Is there another RE in town? Perhaps oyu can let this contract expire and wait until you can find another RE. Then ask them their *strategy* for selling your house, so that they have to develop a plan. Most decent RE’s should have a list of buyers. Ask a new RE if they do.
It’s likely you’ll have to pay for the advertising to hte first RE agent (bummer). That will be about $1000 I reckon.
You have already put the website on this board in another post. That’s 40,000 investors who might be interested.
kay henry
A semi-detached house is a free-standing house, to my knowledge. The house is just joined to another, but it’s torrens title, I think. Certainly, in sydney, that’s the case.
I think they have different names for them in different states.
Hence, there would be not much difference in appreciation value- except that you have smaller land mass.
kay henry
Acey said:
“Who cares about the tax – you earn more, you pay more tax.
“The idea is to build wealth, not create tax deductions!”
Acey- it depends on how much you earn. Some of us want that big tax check back at the end of the year. For me, it’s very important to have deductions.
kay henry
If it’s for sale on realestate.com.au it will get sold, Russ. I send half my life on there, and so do many people. If you live in a small town, the locals may not be able to buyt the place, so it’s other people who may. In 2004, ya godda have it for sale on the net.
kay henry
Netbuttons,
Personally, I see that the ONLY was in investing in property for the future as having a well paid, full-time job. Why do we need so many hours in the day to find properties? We actually need the *wages* to support them.
You have a 30% higher job opportunity at your doorstep. What’s not to love about that? It will mean that your opportunity to purchase RE becomes 30% better. Perhaps you have doubts about the job for other reasons.
kay henry
Dave,
Remember, it’s only when you *sign* the contract that the cooling off period applies, and you can probably get formal approval before then anyway. My bank gives me approval on the same day, but informal approval before that so I can make an offer. It’s a numbers game and you can pretty much work out how much you can borrow anyhoo before you call the bank. Lots of mortgage brokers can probably run ytour numbers through software even before you go anywhere near your own bank. They’re kind, those MB’s [blush2]
I got finance approved informally today and then was asked to fill out an application form before I made an offer. But I wanted to know if I was in the game for the property before I made the app, so I told the bank I was gonna go ahead and make the offer and if it didn;t work out, well, I still have a couple of days to let go. Offer was accepted!! And now I have to apply for the loan- no problems! “subject to finance and BP” is an essentialk thing I’ve learned
kay henry
Well, Bec’s gone now, and for those of us who cringe at this kind of public humiliation (creating a new topic was unnecessary Steve), then perhaps we can let Bec’s memory rest in peace. There will always be differing opinions about forum posters, and I know you probably all would have a clue as to my opinion about Be getting “sacked”.
Vaile Bec!
kay henry
If debt collectors are after you, I’m not sure why you’re confused. It’s obvious you need to pay off the debts (possible the creditors need the money???) Then you can start thinking of your own financial future.
kay henry
I think one thing people don’t discuss with pozz gearing is that one still has to pay tax on the profit made weekly. So if one earns $10 net a week, and is in thehighest tax bracket, $4.80 0f that will be taxed. So one is making $5.20 a week.
Investron, I am not sure people are “poo-pooing” neg gearing… I think poss gearing has been a way for some people to get into the market- to buy super cheap properties, as opposed to buying a 300k property in sydney 8 years ago that may now be worth $1 million. Many of us have never been able to afford to do that :o) But of course, I don’t know anyone who’d knock back such a capital gain either.
If you’ve done so well over time, then you can sit back and watch others’ choice of investment strategy and know that it wouldn’t work for you, but obviously it does work for others.
Of course, houses now are so exxy everywhere that pozz gearing means buying cheaper and riskier houses- which is too risky for some of us. But my strategy has always been to buy cheap places, because it’s what I felt I could afford. Now the “cheapies” that were accessible to me years ago are now more than doubled, and don’t seem good value anymore. But then again, my salary has quadrupled since I bought my first place, so I guess I’ve done ok.
Speaking of retirement… I am quite happy to continue working to improve my situation. Pay rises are one way of improving one’s income, and it means we don’t have the angst of constantly thinking about raising rents or selling off an IP to get more money.
kay henry