What was the Waterford West property at 135k? I haven;t seen any 4 year old units in waterford west for that price, and i’ve been checking out that place for a while now? Which one is it?
“We bought out home for $93,000. The value is $125,000, but the loan is only for $74,000 (80% of sale price, so as far as the bank is concerned the value is $93,000). Anyway, we could have about $50,000 equity in our home.”
If you say that the Bank has valued your home at 93k, then, for all intents and purposes, your house is worth 93k. Unless you take your loan elsewhere, you need to consider the value the bank put on your house- not the value you *think* your place is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad perspectives, but in this case oyu have suggested, you have no real equity except for the 20% deposit.
A note to Derek.. Derek, you said:
“my sole purpose on this forum is to share information.”
Derek, I think you’re a lovely guy, but I do remember you said on this Forum that you wished to mentor people- and to charge people money for that mentoring. If that is still the case, then you have an additional purpose to merely “sharing information”. I think you give great advice, and as I said, you’re a lovely man, but I also think people need to be open with any (financial) agenda they have.
Here’s a couple of questions/comments you might like to think about.
* International airport? Says who? Is it rumour or fact? Look it up on google.com.au “news”. If it isn’t in there, it’s probably rumour.
* How old is the house? Does it need repairs? Structural problems? What is the land value? If you need to do repairs, how will that affect your rental yield?
* How many more years does the precious mineral being mined have left? In some mining towns, the mineral only has a few years left in existence. You can find all of this info on the net.
* One hour from the beach is a long way. It’s hardly coastal.
* Is the premises already tenanted? Have you been told it is market rent, or is the rent comparable with other premises in that location? Sometimes RE agents will tell you a particular rental, but it isn’t the same as the actual rental that can be achieved.
If it feels right, and the house is in good nick, and you feel there is potential for the place, and the numbers stack up, why not go for it? 50k is not too much to lose.
It will be funny when all Allen’s high powered barristers are combing the streets of sydney with a “wanted” picture of miss kitty. hehe.
Pisces, I doubt Allen is going to care if people critique him- sheesh. It’s still a democracy. I am not sure why you found it so essential for Celivia to make a public apology… It seemed like that was more for *you* than it was for Robert Allen.
Basically, these are all get rich quick people, and most of the people who go to their forums will NOT get rich quick. 5k to listen to tips that you can find in any book. I agree with you Pisces, that we live in a democracy, and that people *choose* to go, with noone forcing them to. But I still think this Forum is a place that we can provide balanced perspectives. Some people will say the seminars are great, and others will remind peoiple to act with due caution. All different perspectives, and thank god we have a place to say what we think, without having litigation shoved in our faces.
And now, I am off to hunt down a small mischief-making kitten in overalls- she may look innocent, but tell that to the judge! hehe.
Having lots of love in my life.. living with integrity and being myself and trying to be the best person I can… caring about other people who I love… being happy… having self-respect…
I I can do all of the above, then I feel like life is fantastic )) And work, family, relationships, investments all come into the above
Dunno about consensus- I am an independent soul :o) Look, if we could all afford our own home and invest in as many IP’s as we’d like- who wouldn’t?
I rent, I really love the area I rent in, and if I had to buy in this area, I would be living in a drain. It’s the only way I’m used to doing things. I’ve been renting since I was 19, and maybe this is life for me- I don’t mind (except that, much to my horror, I am having a RE inspection next month- how weird!!)
Lizzy- I don’t have a devotion to pozz geared property. The way I work it is like this. I love RE [blush2] and if all the property I have was yileding 10%, well, that would be fun But there are so many places for sale, that I pick what I want to get. Location, year of property, rental yield, etc etc are all fundamentals to me. But I am not gonna buy the cheapest property I can find because of the rental yield. So I buy what I like and what I can afford ) There is nothing complex about it. I am not opposed to, nor am I in love with neg or pozz gearing. I just buy props that work out for *me* Property invesing is such an individual thing, I reckon I fall for hte property, not the ideology
Even if the shoebox has really nice shoes in it, MJK??
My accountant has been working with me foe years, and knows exactly what he’s doing- bloody good man, he is [king] Whilst i don’t turn up with a shoebox full of receipts… I do pay him to organise my finances for me. Just like I pay a hairdresser to organise my hair. I don’t chop it off myself before I get there so he’ll think I’m organised.
I do admire people who do their own taxes though- not something I engage in
hehe Brenda- re the shoebox My main aim this year is to reduce my CGT liability- I wonder if i can get it down to nothing, and still get back a fat tax cheque?
To do that, I think i’d have to not only give my accountant the shoeboxes, but also lots of nice new pairs of expensive shoes inside!!
Ok Pisces- I’ll take a book on it being YOU as the culprit. This was your opportunity to be the SNAG inside you. Let’s face it, you can’t be a tough guy ALL the time, so your inner snag came out.
Gee, LonelySingleGuy wouldn’t be MaryPoppins, would he? Both joined on 22/5/2004? Both have similar profiles? Both write really *interesting* poetry…
Chatting up yourself? hehe- it’s too funny How’s the RE landscape in your part of the woods, LSG and MP? Let us know… but at the SAME time- let’s see if you have 4 hands :+P
Gatsby, I think you seem like a great guy- a real charmer, for what it’s worth )
Yep DD, I’ve bought sight unseen, but it still has to be beautiful :o)) Photos help. I would buy sight unseen again- thinking first about the numbers (I check out the less than 200k IP’s on realestate.com.au- if I only went for beauty, I would be checking the million buck properties, but I can’t afford *that much* beauty- only a little bit). After the numbers work, I see if it physically pleases ME. My purchase- mine mine MINE! So I want it to look good
A bank valuation IS an independent valuation. The ones that are not independent are “in-house” ones that companies provide for you, such as the ones that occurred with off the plan apartments. You just need to make sure the bank values your property at the level you are about to pay.
Ifd you check out realestate.com.au and go to the suburb of the place you are buying in, it will tell you what previous places have sold for. That’s merely “one” way to get a relative value. Also, check out how much places are currently selling (not sold) for, in the suburb. You would probably have been researching the area before you decided to buy this place, and so you know this place has relative worth to the others, right? Make sure you know the are backwards before you buy.
Yes Lizzy- I am the one in 7 ) I rent a place in the city, and own a couple of IP’s I do have huge debts on my IP’s, and I do make a loss on my properties *boohoo* [hair2]
I fit the profile. I do think now that I’ll chuck more money when I have it into IP’s rather than a PPOR. Rent is reasonable here- not “dead money”, and I can make more from property than if I put my wages and rents into a PPOR.
What about you, Lizzy? Are you one of the the 1 in 7 too?
kay henry
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