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    Jet, you said:

    “If there is no capital growth then should you use your money to invest somewhere else…”

    Yeah, you’re right Jet. However, given that I also owe $$$ to the Bank, then I intend to pay some off. I just bought an IP, mate, and I still have that old-fashioned idea of paying property off (a la Bell). The aim is to reduce the LVR, and pay off some debt for the next couple of years. This “money” that you’ve suggested I should be investing elsewhere… hehe- I’ll be investing that money into my IP’s :))

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    Lisabellan,

    Just to add something here… many serviced apartment firms have a provision for annual rent rises. You might want to check out if your company has that, too.

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    Dave- yeah, we sound mean- sorry about that- your Q was pretty innocent- I just didn’t know where you were coming from.

    Re Russell Island… I had a look on realestate.com.au a few days ago after you asked your Q, and the places do look a bit flood-prone, if one can assess that by the look of houses. They have that built-up so high look about them- like floody places I’ve seen (that’s the bad news). But the places are cheap, you’re right (the good news). The places I saw online looked a bit shacky (more bad news), but I guess you never get mansions at the lower end of the market.

    If it sounds good to you, you could go and check it out on a holiday. Sand flies sound awful to me, but then again, so do mines, and people invest in mining places- go figure.

    If you’re aware of where the flood places are, you sound like you know what you’re doing.

    This post has been good for me- I now know a little about a place I knew nothing about before :)

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    Jaffa, I am more familiar with the other side of Albury – the bushy side- Henty, Holbrook etc. The city of Albury itself is quite lovely- with the Murray running down the middle. As with cities like Wagga, the CBD holds up well in terms of value maintenance. As you may have seen, Albury has some really industrial outer areas on the highway [thumbsdownanim Stay near the river and you’ll be fine. Albury has cheaper prices that Wagga and the population is smaller. It has a victorian “feel” to it though, so probably has more Victorian investment interest in the case of resell. As with a lot of regional areas, it’s built on footy and has a fairly large yob element- hence, stick to the CBD.

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    Calvin,

    I agree that many people attend seminars to develop confidence. I thik this is why so many seminar leaders add a “personal development” component to their seminars these days. The worst one I saw was when Brad Sugars asked his seminar attendees who thought they had the worst life. A young woman got up on stage, said she had no confidence, and thought of herself as really ugly. Brad Sugars made some very cliched comments, and then told her she had a “nice arse” as she left the stage…. I am not sure that if this woman lacked confidence for many years, that BS telling her she had a nice arse would be the panacea to her problems. I also think if people lack confidence, that it is often about challenging it in a long-term way. Paying many thousands for a weekend is, I think, a short-term fix.

    I would definitely have gone to Steve’s seminar. I have to say Steve’s offer of a ticket was unexpected and seemed generous to me, and that certainly acted as a lure. I have never been to a seminar- I am not much of a seminar type, I don’t think- it was a cultural, familial way of seeing the world. I learn such a vast amount from Forums such as this one, and from other reading etc, that I tend to see seminars of offering other things to attendees- feelings of collegiality, perhaps, and of a common goal. As for information, I am more of a reader than a person who can sit for long in a room. It’s just a different learning style- but for many others, it suits them entirely.

    I think it’s all about what motivates oneself. If seminars work, then lucky you :)

    Re Steve and Dave’s seminar- sounded great, and the Mappers are always sharing their knowledge and experience. Seems like the formula’s there to please the audience.

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    vicgirl :) Just think, when you have a job, you can afford double the amount of properties, as you’ll have double the income.

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    Perter- heya,

    I think it’s a good point about buying newer units/apartments in those areas- particuarly larger ones. Often, land in the outback can be worth only a few hundred bucks, or a few thousand. I think it was depreciator (please correct me if I’m wrong, depreciator) who said he was concerned people were paying too much money- even if they were cheap properties, when one thought of the value of land in remote areas, and the houses accompanying the land.

    I think it’s all about getting more value for your buck. In these instances, buying newer IP’s, with fewer possibility of repairs, certainly makes good sense.

    Peter, I would say that it seems to be very good value to get a post-1987 3-bedder that is CF+. I’d undertake that strategy myself… but I’m still concerned about areas that are too remote/isolated.

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    I dunno, folks, I think I have to disagree. Hoping that partners might have the exact same interest in property, is almost like hoping they might have the same interests in other activities. Some partners like fishing… others like knitting. I think it’s ok to have really different ways of seeing. Whislt I think it’s more *ideal* to have the same excitement, for example, about pozz gearing, or neg gearing… but if people are not into the same strategies, then they can still work it out. There are some relationships where one person does the “property bit” and the other person is more a “silent partner”, because they either don’t have the same understanding, or more likely, that they don’t have the same passion for it. I know many couples where one partner loves and buys property, and the other sits back, and doesn’t. I think it can still work.

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    Originally posted by aussierogue:

    sure the local people look alarmingly alike but thats why we need to go there..

    Fuunnyyy, Rogue! [laughing]

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    I’m with Rugs, Chan. I mean, one should only buy neg geared props if there is an opportunity for CG- not just because it’s cheap. When the market flattens out, it will flatten out for all properties… but which ones will recover? Perhaps “location location location” will again become de rigeur. As Rugs said, unique properties, near water, or other properties that will appeal to both owner/occupiers and investors (well, I added bits- sorry Rug).

    CF+ properties will probably always do ok- if they have tenants, and if there’s not too many repairs. but if negative gearing, well- does the property have the qualities for growth?

    Chan Jet, I don’t care what my properties will do in the next few years. This is a time for me to pay them off. I think if people are expecting their properties to double in the next few years, like they may have done in the last few years… well, in market change, perhaps expectations need to change too. The get-rich-quick fashion was so 3 years ago.

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    Are you selling some land in Russell Island, Dave?

    There are many places where land is cheap- either because there is huge amounts of land (rural) and no demand… or because the land might not be able to be built on for whatever reason.

    I am sure Russell Island is beautiful. But there’s land all across Australia where the land is worth 600 bucks for a 1/4 acre. In those place,s the houses are worth much more than the land.

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    Deanna,

    Check out the town you are looking at, and type in “blahtown population decline”. That will tell you if there has been any significant change. I think it’s important to distinguish between anecdotal evidence, and more statistical evidence. Even if people are moing out, it’s possible that others are moving in, so it could be equalising.

    Sounds like the place has nickel/gold mines… you can find out the longevity of the mines by doing some research, and it sounds like you have. Broken hill, for example, with a population of about 20-22k, has about 6 years left in its existing mine, from my reading. This info is increasingly publicly available.

    I mean, even if a mine does close down, sometimes families and individuals still stay…. or the place becomes a “ghost town”. It’s hard to make a call on this stuff… but if people want to buy 50k houses… then there are many risks for these towns.

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    Nordic,

    I don’t see 70% LVR as an issue in itself- it means I have greater equity to begin with- that’s the way I see it. That extra 10% can assist in another deposit down the line. And many city apartments have 70% LVR.

    Re the Serviced Apartment deal… I think rental guarantees are good. As you’d be aware, there’s no guarantee the company will stay in business, and for some of them, you can opt out of the agreement if you wish. But noone says our tenants will continue their tenancy either. I’d check out their Corporate Plan and Annual Reports to see how they’re faring.

    I had a bit of a look at PIM- seems they have a large market share. I also had a look at Waldorf Apartments, who have a similar scheme. They have “investor benefits” though, whereby an investor can stay in apartments all over australia for free – like a timeshare thing- for being an owner of an apartment. you might want to check out if PIM has the same benefits, or will match waldorf’s.

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    PK,

    I saw a program about it this evening, and a literary critic was saying it would be a pity if the issue of honour killings was minimised, as you’ve said, by this controversy. In a way, it might be highlighted. I never heard of darville/demidenko until she was shown as a fraud, so sometimes it promotes the author or their issue.

    Dunno if she gets to keep the profits. All her books have been removed from the shelves, and the Dept of Immigration is questioning her visa- so she’s in trouble. I reckon she may have to go back to the USA.

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    Aafreen,

    I think some good investment locations are Windy Warrnambool (it’s pretty far out on the coast, but I still think it’s good value), and places like northcote and fitzroy will definitely ride out the waves of price fluctuations, I think. Northcote, in particular, has some pretty unique qualities housewise- it’s pretty as a picture.

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    rachderick,

    It costs nothing to do some checks through realestate.com.au Why not sit with your husband and check out properties on there? You can choose a state- perhaps the one you live in now, and just look at different areas. Another thing I do is look at Australian Property Investor Magazine ($8 from newsagents) and look at all the cheapest towns in different states. Most of them, I’ve never heard of, but it gives a starting point, and it’s easier, visually, for me to see the cheapies, than doing random searches on the net.

    It’s fun to check out RE all over Australia. It costs nothing to look, and then you can find out price ranges. The only way to find places is to look. And if your husband is as enthusiastic as you are, you can look together.

    I find that I see properties, and then the more I look, the easier it is to find better and better places. So I might see a place, think it looks good, but then I find another place, that has more land, is in a bigger location, has a newer property, etc etc etc. Comparisons help.

    Then you can ask on the forums things like “is anyone investing in south-est WA?” or something. You can also ask about specific towns, but people sometimes like to keep deals under their hats, so people don’t nick ’em.

    Finding properties isn’t hard… finding *suitable* properties is a bit harder.

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    And that dude, Peter Comben, is this dude:

    http://www.smartpropertydevelopment.com.au/

    Thanks Admin, for giving us new stuff to think about. Bring on the Developers!

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    Pepper,

    I buy units. hehe- I should make a website called “Ibuyunits.com.au”. Wonder what our friend would think [baaa]

    Whilst there are many arguments for buying houses over units, units are something I first bought into, and have become used to. You are probably right about units being more affordable than houses. It might be because they usually have a smaller space, and certainly a smaller land mass.

    What I like about units is the collective responsibility for maintenance via Body Corporate fees. Others dislike this collectivity. I am very hands-off, and am happy to allow others to attend the meetings. Having interstate property, means that I can just allow others to make decisions, and I can just set and forget- works for me. Also, if there is something wrong with the roof, or some structural problem, we all share the cost. Special levies (for unusual works, or maintenance, or unforeseen expenses) can occur though in units. I haven’t had to pay this, but I imagine it could be a pain.

    I think one develops a taste for what one likes. You could be a “houses only” type, or a “units only” type, or have a mixture. i feel comfortable knowing one market, and don’t feel much need to move out of that right now, but I’d be happy to buy a house if it was at the right price.

    I think I also invest for what I prefer personally. I like apartment living, so I think it becomes an easy investment choice for me.

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    bennido,

    I believe the CF+ (after deposit) is the CoCR notion that Steve has- so it still fits in somewhere :) It’s the return on the cash you put in- not on the whole price.

    I hear you about not wanting an investment too far away. I live in sydney, though, and finding properties that are suitable… well, sydney is only one market- and there’s a big world out there. For example, you can find beautiful properties in other markets, that in sydney, you’d be buying a dogsbum property for equal price. So if I didn’t look out of my own backyard, I feel i’d be cutting off my nose to spite my face. Sometimes there’s comfort out of one’s comfort zone. hehe- sorry for the bad metaphors- it’s been a long day :)

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    YC,

    Sounds like a plan :) I think the most important thing in investing is confidence. You seem like you’ve done a lot of thinking and are developing your own independent strategies. That will serve you well if the market falls apart a bit, and other people are looking for the latest “crash survival” book to give them answers. The independent mind is the greatest RE investing tool, I reckon.

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