Alright westan- your offer is too tempting for me to refuse… ) How about this one…
When I hear people talking about the cities of the world and saying, “Paris, London, Tokyo, Sydney, New York, and Mildura…” then I’ll eat my words [strum] hehe
Not sure the vendor would go for that. If you buy a place untenanted, I think it’s the new buyer’s problem.
Ko, I bought a place recently, that had no tenant, because the vendor wanted to be able to sell to an investor or an owner occupier, and not limit her options. As soon as I said I was an investor, she got in a tenant- good for her before settlement, and good for me after settlement.
If the places in Mt Isa have no tenant, you might wonder why… are the places “tenantable”? Mt Isa is a place that has been mentioned as having one of the biggest rental yields in Australia:
…however, if you have no tenant, then you have zero rental yield. Check out the rental history of the IP, and ask a RE agent (not the one who is selling to you) to do a rental assessment on it.
I like to buy IP’s with a tenant in place. With some IP’s, tenant demand is so strong that they have a waiting list for particular properties… but it’s a bit rare and not something to count on. Tenants are the cornerstone of IP’s, so a tenant in place can be fantastic, but as Derek alluded to, a [mad] one can mess everything up for you.
Speaking for myself, me, personally, toad- hehe… couldn’t resist… [baaa].. interest rate increases of 5% would be difficult. I too remember when IR rates were 17%- fortunately for me at that time, I had money invested at 18%, so I was on the other side, but a 17% mortgage would have done my head in.
“That time of the month” (when the RB meets) can be stressful for investors, but generally, an expectation that IR’s might rise, is better than a feeling that they will never rise. Pay rises help to weather the IR storm, as does making extra payments. When interest rates lowered in the last decade, many people got ahead by keeping making the same payments as when IR rates were higher, therefore increasing their equity.
I always make sure I pay more on my mortgages than I need to, so there’s always extra money available.
IR rates are just another contingency in the RE game. I have the motto of “be aware but don’t obsess”. It keeps things in perspective.
Check out if you can opt out of the agreement with the chain and rent privately (although you’ll probably find then, that the rental yield might be lower and you’ll have to pay outgoings). Basically, you’ll be buying a motel room in the deal… although some of these serviced apartments are now 1 and 2-bedroom units, so you’re actually buying a “proper” apartment.
Look at the Annual Reports for the past decade of the Company that is running it, and who trheir clients are- as in, are they working in conjunction with a University etc… You can even check out the Council/Senate papers of the University to check the agreement (although thayt might be Commercial in Confidence and not accessible to you).
If it stacks up, and your solicitor thinks it’s ok… then I would consider it. Really depends on the unit itself- really, a 2-bedder might be worthwhile, whereas an 18 square metre hotel room could be a killer.
If ALL outgoings are paid for you… well, it may be a very low maintenance asset.
Oh, a cult has moved to Hamilton- the Happy Clappers- hehe- too funny )
I always remembered Mildura as another country town. You’d have to buy cheaply there to make it worhwhile, I’d reckon. It will never have the reputation that coastal areas or capital cities do.
There is no cooling off period anywhere in Australia for auction, and there is no cooling off period in WA for private treaty sales either.
Glory, do inspections before you bid, and you’ll be fine. I don’t sign a contract with private treaty until I have done my inspections and know I will be buying the property.
Auctions are a matter of caveat emptor, really, much more than private treaty. I guess many people will do inspections, spend the money, and then miss out on the property anyway.
hehe redwing That reminds me a little of the anecdote that if Karen Carpenter had have eaten the ham sandwich Momma Cass ate, both would still be alive today. Mine’s a bit (a lot) tackier than yours, but so am I :o)
The lack of capitals… well, sometimes I do that, although I am a grammar nut at other times. Not using capitals on pronouns is something that became a bit of a radical “movement” at one time, a kind of anarchist statement, and backlash against formality, I guess. I’m pretty conscious about words- they’re my tool of trade, so I play with them )
Dunno Barnesey, but perhaps a hero or heroine is someone other people look up to. Perhaps many people see running and jumping to be as much of a skill as bravery is.
Probably in the days when there were no drugs in sport (or no testing of them), then people’s skills of strength showed they had some “character” or something (I am thinking in the days of hte old grecian olympics). Bull fighters become heroes too, although to me, it seems like the matador has coniderable advantage with those swords they stab the bull with.
I find my cheapest property requires the most maintenance. Cheapest property = cheapest rent, so it’s a bit annoying, because repairs cost the same no matter how much rent one receives.
I prefer properties that are newer, and require less maintenance. They cost more, and the rental yield is less, but the rent goes to my mortgage, rather than going to maintenance.
Your positive sachflow can soon become negative if you are required to undertake a lot of repairs. So a 10%’er can become an 7%’er… I’d rather get the 7%’er to begin with, and have more potential for growth.
hehe. Monopoly, you have completely missed the point. You could have left the original post there- I didn’t see it as unkind. Your second post still doesn’t see the point I was making, but it’s ok. My “membership” as a “doormat” is funny. [biggrin]
Prejudice is always a bad thing. In reference to what I was saying, the term doormat is used by people who don’t understand. That’s what I’m saying. It’s why I deconstruct the term- it’s about choices. Not a choice to be a doormat…
Sonja :o) No problems at all. And you’re entitled to express your views strongly. It’s funny… because the word “doormat” is a theme in another community I am a part of. Some people make choices to do certain things, which other people see as a lack of strength, or something. Whereas I see these people as having the utmost strength. They’re making a choice to surrender. So I guess I thought I’d just wade into the notion of it, and make some comments.
I know nothing about technicalities and setups etc. What I was gonna contribute is that I pay extra into my IP’s each week, as set up by my Bank. I don’t have an LOC, but I have redraw facility. I guess I can use this if I have extra repairs etc. Always good to have a backup.
hehe Gatsby- cute :o) I like Geoffrey Rush- he’s one of the activists about the FTA- not sure about Steve Vizard though, although he has managed to keep himself out of trouble and out of the limelight. Didn’t he have something to do with Rene Rivkin? You gonna show me some culture when you come to sydney?
And I do believe Jesus would have done it the same, as would have Ghandi, and Nelson Mandela. Look at Nelson Mandela- not a bitter guy at all- and he has always continued to fight for his people- but he has never been a doormat.
Being honest is not about having a lack of boundaries. As I said, I won’t work with people who don’t share my beliefs, or I’ll tell them what I want to do- if it’s my PM- and they have to follow (seeing I pay them and all). I had a tenant who was WAY behind, and the PM discussed it with me, and I told her I will not make a person homeless (my rent was the cheapest going at the time). That was my decision, and I told her my beliefs on it, and that we all can have hard times in life- my tenant can, and I can too- I see my tenants as no different to me. Others would handle it differently- it’s all about choices. I took full responsibility for that decision- my choice, my belief system. Will making these decisions make me rich? No. Do I care? No.
Doormats accept the status quo- whatever that might be. I think a doormat is in the eye of the beholder.
Gats- do tell! Why the audit, huh? What could you have been claiming for that you got audited about? hehe. Go on, tell your snoopy friend :o)
Goow will often doesn’t turn out well. There are examples of injustice being perpetrated on people all the time. We just make choices.
I mean, let’s put things in perspective… Jesus was a good guy and he got crucified- literally. But do you think if he had his time over, or he was on this Board, he’d do it differently?
I don’t see much point in using other people’s poor reactions to our actions, as an excuse for us changing the way we choose to do things. If I try to do the right thing, and then someone does the wrong thing back, and I think “no more mr nice kay henry”, or I do something nice/good/whatever, and I get an outcome I’m happy with, so I keep doing that… I mean, I think we just develop a plan for the way we want to be, and stick to it. Our behaviour can’t be based either solely on others’ ill-will or good will.
I think consistency develops trust. The problem with property, is that it’s often not an ongoing relationship- tenants move in and out, property managers can change etc etc. But if you look at the workplace, or families, or friendship, consistency is hugely valued, and instils the trust of others.
kay henry
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