I’m a former local too, so I know what you mean ) I think you’re entitle to think wagga has unsavoury characters there. Like much of rural and regional australia, it does have a culture of a pretty narrow focus.
dglees, I am a bit unlike others on here. I tend to go not necessarily for places that have had past capital growth. Give me the place that hasn’t had the effects of the RE boom, and I can afford to buy there. I bought a very cheap place in wagga recently, and the unit next to it, in the same condition, sold for 22% more a month after. Capital growth means I am buying *after* the boom- why not get in early?
And even in wagga doesn;t have much CG, there will always be a tenant market there. There’s always young people moving out of home to rent their own place, and wagga rents are pretty reasonable. I am not so much into +CF. If I buy cheap enough, and have reasonable rents, and have decent tenants, that’s all I aim for )
I love reading about RE too- it becomes quite an obsession, doesn’t it? []
And Bob- don’t worry about people misinterpreting. I know what distressed sales are- death, divorce, drought. It’s all good.
Thanks all for your replies- I’ll ask some more specific answers from you shortly about location etc.
I’m wanting to purchase in the Ipswitch area, which I know was redneck hanson land. From my reading of all things statistical, it’s still a fairly mono kind of area.
I’m looking at a fairly kind of upmarket area in that region. Would people mind giving me their views of ok areas around there?
I’d also like to know median values of say, 6 year old apartments in the area.
Universities ain’t like they used to be- now they’re an all-year-round affair. Most Universities now have summer sessions, and increasingly, depending on where your property is, and the nature of the University demographic, there are huge numbers of people who don’t go home after semester- they just live near the University and want continuing stable accommodation. This is particularly true of urban Universities, or newer Universities that have an older student demographic, such as UWS, for example. In rural Universities, it’s possible some people nick off, and International students certainly do, but I reckon Uni students provide a great source of continuing tenancy.
Whilst you can’t purchase when under contract, some RE agents put “under offer/under contract” logo’s onto their websites. Perhaps you could check with the RE if it under offer or contract. It is *possible* to buy a property under offer (gazumping) if some RE’s do that. Generally, it’s not considered a good thing to do if a seller has accepted an offer. Legally, that *should* constitute a verbal contract- offer and acceptance. Gazumping does occur however, and was rife during, for example, the recent sydney RE boom. I believe gazumping is illegal in one state of Australia- can’t remember where but []
diclem- you don’t seem so green- you look kind of blue to me [:X]
Yes, spending is at an all-time high in Australia, and by increasing interest rates, it slows spending. It also scares the bejeezuz out of people, and they crack- it’s a weird psychological thing. I remember when I had money invested and got an 18% return. When interest rates are that high, it’s ok to panic if you’re in debt up the wazoo.
If interest rates don’t increase, it’s possible that people will get into unsustainable debt, and that can’t be good for anyone. [xx(]
I call my tenants at xmas to wish them a happy xmas and thank them for looking after the property.
I am also going to give my tenants a week free rent for keeping my place so well presented and helping me to sell it by doing so.
There’s two ways of doing things. Give them a gift so they can improve *your* property, or actually give them a gift which is for them. Tenants help us get what we want- it’s good to express appreciation to them without thinking about how we can benefit from our “generosity” to them.
I agree with you – I like Wagga. It’s just when Teacher asked about thatspecific property, I thought he need to knew what he might be buying into.
In terms of investment, I think Wagga has a lot going for it- populkation of about 58,000. There is *some* talk about population decline, but really, wagga is a good city, with a university, and it’s pretty to look at. Population decline won’t occur to a huge extent in such a city- it’s not like the University is going to close down! It’s a non-industrial city too, so it’s as clean as a whistle.
So don’t get me wrong, Craig- i’ll be investing in Wagga as a preferable regional. The prices there are fantastic compared to cities half its size.
My bet is that the Fed govt will do all in it’s power to try to coerce the Rez Bank into keeping interest rates at the same rate until after the election. The Reserve is “independent” only after Lib gov elections- then it’s free to do as it pleases. My bet is that after the election, we’ll see interest rates go up by 1% by next xmas.
Fatboy- is there a prize for winning this comp? the new Fatboy slim CD perhaps? ;O)
I think given that the lady has removed herself from further discussions with you, you might need to let this one go. Whilst RE agents are expensive and some of them can be dodgy, I suppose (although my dealings with agents have been good thus far), they provide protection from potential buyers. She has employed the RE agent to negotiate on her behalf, and you need to respect that.
Go to the private sites on the net, or check out the newspapers to see who’s selling privately. She’s paid a RE agent so she doesn’t get ripped off, and she’s paid the RE to get her the best price. Other more savvy buyers will sell privately and probably have significantly more negotiation skills than your lady might have. Please don’t encourage her to break the contract she has entered into.
Basically, whenever I look at property- the last one I bought over the internet in Wagga- in exactly the street and location i wanted to buy in- I ask the street name from the RE agent, and then I type the street name and town into google.com (australia only sites). Any mention of the street name will come up. It’s a good indicator of what might be happening in that street- murders, drugs, fights etc. If there’s any police reports or media, it should all come up. I do that check in all towns for RE I am looking at. You can also check out a location by looking at a map of the local area. So if i am looking in broken hill, for example, i check out the map and see if the place is sitting next to a mine. Sometimes, there’s no reason to visit a location if you do your google and map checking beforehand.
Local knowledge of an area is a good thing. It’s why forums like this are so important- most of us came from somewhere- we can all help each other out! )
I’m surea million wrappers will be asking you to email them ASAP so get ready for it! Remember though, with wrapping, someone will inflate the price by 20% before they “sell” the property to you, then you will pay higher than market interest rates, and if you default, you will lose any deposit, any repayments, and any improvements you have made to the proprty- actually, you’ll just lose the property! oh, and you’ll pay rates and water etc when you’re there too. Sound like a good deal to you?
In a more traditional sense, your financial situatoin is obviously a vulnerable one. Given that you’ve “seen better days”, you’d understand that you need to be able to service the loan, and it really depends on where you live and what you want to buy. A 1-bed in sydney for 400K? or in a regional area? It’s hard to know what you’ll need given the small amount of informaiton we have. But if you go with a traditional lender, if you have less than 20% deposit, you’ll be paying Lender’s Mortgage Insurance which will just be paying something for nothing.
I think you need to save that 5% which shouldn’t be hard if you are a high income earner. If you can’t save 5%, it might be difficult for you to repay the loan anyway.
I tend to think that interest rates will rise a little. Then those who are overcommitted will panic. These are the kind of investors who got sucked in by the Investment Seminars and who bought properties in oversupplied areas. They were sucked in by the “buy buy buy” stuff and they’ll be sucked in by the “sell sell sell!!” stuff that will no doubt happen when IR’s rise.
I do believe many of those new units are over-valued- with valuations made “in-house”. There ia already evidence of this with people trying to sell in sydney. It will be borne out further when the off the plan units are finalised and people wish to sell them- there just won’t be the tenancy for them. And places like Southbank, Melbourne, will become the new urban ghetto, I reckon. When I was in melby recently, all I read about was what a shocker of an area it is, with the cops there stopping fights all the time. And yet this is where people are buying new apartments??
I tend to think the more experienced investors did their usual investment checking (some call it due diligence- i just call it checking), and didn’t go crazy and overcommit. For those who have, Ido think it’s inevitable that they’ll panic and chuck all their apartments on the market. Given that the values are already questionable on some of these new apartments, once they start coming onto the market, and there is a generic range for buyers to choose from, it seems that buyers may be able to pick and choose.
I still don’t think these apartments will be CF+ though. CF+ ones still seem to remain in the rural and regional areas, and I doubt their prices will fall 20%. Perhaps the prices in regional/rural actually reflect market values already.
My real estate agent said it is against the Privacy Act to ask people if they have finance arranged. Has anyone heard anything anbout this? It makes me feel pretty insecure actually- if they can’t ask this, how can we ever rely on selling a property?
I used 100% equity to purchase a new property, but then I made what was possibly a mistake. Just after I bought the second one, I sold the first one. Now I have to pay back the bank all but 80% of the second one- which I didn’t want to do. So the “duplicating properties using equity” as in ‘no money down’ approach, really relies on you not selling the property with equity in it until you’ve developed equity in the new one.
hey folks :o) Thanks for the leads. Still open to offers here [] But *please* no wrappers. I’m not into them- just like I wasn’t into pyramid schemes or stripping companies when they were in vogue.
I’m old-fashioned. I want to find some cheaper properties to rent to people for reasonable rentals, so I can build a property portfolio. I search all over the place like a mofo for properties, and I think this place would be a good place to find folks with like minds [:X]
Thanks folks for your replies :o) Seems this forum is full of buyers and not sellers? Are most people here “buy and hold” people? Remember, I am not fussed by rental yield- so onsell those cheapies to moi
kay henry
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