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    Why is cash the way to go? I thought investing was about borrowing money and keeping cash reserves for other investments. NAB rang up to say yes they will lend $26,000.

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    What did you think Qlds007?

    Is it wise to use cash for this or should i hunt around knocking on all the doors i can to try get a home loan?

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    What would be the best way to leverage into a property purchase number two (just thinking ahead now as well)? In the last hour i have organized that i can pay $24,000.00 cash and get a personal loan of $14,000 which i could pay back over the next 3 to 5 years interest free though this does not prove a credit rating. Either way i want to pay down this loan as quick as possible. 

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    The building area is an open 82.8 square meter area. The whole property area in square meters including the rear yard is 180 square meters.

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    That's right Tracey thanks for your suggestions. Settlement needs to be while it is still business 1 then a month or so after the renovation is completed council issue a certificate of occupancy which it can then have a home loan secured against it. This is where I assumed bridging that gap between settlement and receiving that 'certificate of occupancy'  would require a business  loan.

    I had a meeting with the NAB and the manager came to sit in on the meeting explaining that it could have a business 1 loan first then converted over to a standard home loan with the $600 application fee waved on the mortgage and a $600 application fee on the business loan. They we're all positive and extremely helpful on finding a way ahead with this.

    Just before Christmas i arranged a meeting with a broker. He is a first cousin and ex Westpac Bank Manager of 18 years that is now running his own brokering from his home. We chatted away at length out on the street having a coffee and he suggested bridging the gap with cash then applying through the Commonwealth Bank for a home loan using the certificate of occupancy.

    I'm shopping around to get peoples opinion and suggestions on what options i can take before i make a decision on what way  best to go. Forgot to mention that I have a garrantor if necessary.  

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    The Contract of Sale of $38,000.00 is subject to and conditional upon the purchaser obtaining a Planning Permit from the council authorising him to use the premises for residential purposes. 

    36% Deposit.

    I will have LVR of 64%.

    Yes i can substantiate income in the form of bank statements and income statement.

    The property location is 3300.

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    Well Richard it's a vacant shop zoned business 1 that upon council approval in some three or more months and renovations completed a certificate of occupancy  will be granted. Then it can be lived in as a residential.

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    I don't imagine the FHOG and the 3k bonus if living in Victoria will last forever. It's my guess it will finish this year or in the next year or so.

    It may be worth thinking about weather you want to cash in on it or not. It depends entirely on what you decide to do. But if you go down the track of fiddling around and renovating the house while living in it it's also an option that you could rent out a single room to someone if the tenant don't mind living their whilst you go about the renovation process. State Revenue Office don't mind you renting a room or two and still receiving the grant. This can help with a bit of extra income.

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    It was time this thread ended it's now dead.

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    I would give no power tripper the chance of wrapping a property to me!

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    Not green! I would go with a color set of three that blends well with the render. One color would be for the ceiling joists,  railings, veranda posts that blends with the render color and a third color that also would blend with the deck itself. All three colors should compliment each other. So those three colors would blend with each other. The deck some sort of brown or fawn color something that looks more woody rather then the green it is now. Those three colors can be used around other parts of the outside of the house also.

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    B.T.W the red dots are the only available land blocks for sale currently! Also the contour of the land would come into it as it has slight hills and slopes across the total parcel of land I have not been to actually look at the land but i seen some other photographs. I'm using this mainly as an exercise. That's a good consideration about it costing to remove the existing trees on some of the blocks not sure if they will clear them all in one go when they go to develop the road, sewage, lighting etc.

    Oh Amanda  I made a mistake myself I thought it was 20 now that I notice it's number 30 on the corner.

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    No your not getting to old it's a bit difficult to make out what the numbers are in that photo. After emailing the agent he gave me these prices of the blocks that we're left. With these numbers now at hand I changed my mind to block number 32 based on value for money for the amount of land for dollar value. I don't know how the agent got them prices? If you look at number 3@1000sq mtrs at $54k then at 32,33,36@2200 sq mtrs at $59k each, then it's only $5k extra for more then double the land. The culdesac are priced pretty high. Then I took the median price of all the blocks they have left and used a median price per square meter ($26.81) to calculate what I really thought each block should be priced at not sure if I made any sense of it but my calculations go down the right hand side. If I based my decision on that then Number 3 would be the cheapest at $26810.00c and at 1000 sq Mtrs it's still a reasonably large block in anyones standard, it's just the others make it look smaller in the photograph and you might get a fence built all around you for nothing.

                            Agents list price                             My land evaluation based on median price = ($ per mtr X sq mt)
    3  1000 sq mt at $54k           = $54.00c per sq mtr – median $26810.00c
    4  1449 sq mt at $57k           = $39.33c per sq mtr – median $38847.69c
    5  1486 sq mt at $62k           = $41.72c per sq mtr – median $39839.66c
    6  1531 sq mt at $67k           = $43.76c per sq mtr – median $41046.11c
    10 2167 sq mt at $95k         = $43.83c per sq mtr – median $58097.27c
    13 4711 sq mt at $87k         = $18.46c per sq mtr – median $126301.91c
    14 4312 sq mt at $95k         = $22.03c per sq mtr – median $115604.72c
    15 4019 sq mt at $92,500   = $23.01c per sq mtr – median $107749.39c
    17 3720 sq mt at $90k         = $24.19c per sq mtr – median $99733.20c
    23 1526 sq mt at $56k         = $35.82c per sq mtr – median $40912.06c
    28 1563 sq mt at $57,500   = $36.78c per sq mtr – median $41904.03c
    32 2200 sq mt at $59k         = $26.81c per sq mtr – median $58982.00c
    33 2200 sq mt at $59k         = $26.81c per sq mtr – median $58982.00c
    36 2200 sq mt at $59k         = $26.81c per sq mtr – median $58982.00c
    37 2320 sq mt at $59k         = $25.43c per sq mtr – median $62199.20c
                         Total =$1,049,000          Total = $975,991.24c

    Mean price per square meter   = $32.59c
    Median price per square meter = $26.81c X per sq meter

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    The Highway noise is a good point. I picked 20 and 29 mainly because it seems it could be a sub-dividable block later on as well as tranquil country views over the road and some trees. 20 the one I favored.

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    Hi Jase & Flic, you need to upload the pictures to your own host and then use the insert image (it's one of the buttons in the reply to post field) where it provided an entry field where you put the URL to the photo in and then repeat this process for more photo's.

    If you want send the photo's to [email protected] and I will put them all neatly into this post.

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    Also put into your math that you can rent rooms out in the house while you live in the house for the 6 months, this can help with the cash flow to pay the mortgage repayments.

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    Pre-reno picture of front of house
    Hi Jase&Flic what was the exact price that you settled on the property with? I put a photo up here so I don't lose it and also downloaded all the other ones onto my hard drive as it will be interesting to follow this thread and thanks for putting the details up. What is the land area of the block? What sort of loan did you get PI or IO and do you plan to sell it within 12 months or after?

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    L.A Aussie wrote:
    I was talking about the home page actually; where it shows just the latest active/hot topics.

    I believe your wish has been filled!

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    L.A Aussie wrote:
    I preferred the function where you could run the cursor over the original post of the thread and the little box opened up to show you what the content was.

    That still does that using the browser I have got Firefox or IE.

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    Nice dark blue! I prefer that to that couple picture that was there! The best change to this web site recently from a practical users point of view has been the 'Active Topics' in the forum drop down menu how it brings up a few of the active topics all in one list from the different forums…brilliant!

    In the old original PropertyInvesting.com the forum notifications used to include the title of the thread when it arrives in the email box this is good to use the email box as a filing system for threads but any thread is rather hard to find now as they all arrive titled the same.

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