Westpac couldnt do the loan as one of his property is in a country region as stated in the post…cutting it close with time aswell. When LMI is applied, lenders get very strict on where to lend and where the security is situated.
It doesnt matter if you have over million dollars with one lender, it all comes down to how much you earn and the value of the properties used for security. It is a pain, even if its off by 1% on the LVR, the loan will get declined, and sometimes when purchasing a house, the valuation comes in lower then the purchase price. What we do? We get over it, and deal with the problem, and it can cause the client to lose his house but we will make sure there is no other possibilties without not proceeding anymore.
You could access just over $20,000 with your current property… you could go to 80% of the value of the property if its Full Doc Loan so no LMI is applicable….going over 80% is really limiting your options in regards to LMI.. i cant think at the moment, ill give it some thought and get back to you, unless someone already knows a solution straight up.
This should be in the Finance Discussion forum, lucky i saw this .
um quick run through of the questions.
A)No one can talk you into fixing or not to fix. Its up to what you feel is right, a broker can only give you the definition between the two, but you gotta make the decision.
When your not an investor
C)Broker, not because i am a broker, i just know that if i was a client i wouldnt want to deal with all the crap that occurs with a home loan, their is always a stuff up and you gotta be there to rectify it. Brokers can make it a hassle free transaction and usually dont charge brokerage charges. So its a free service, why not go through one then????
D) your Brokers mobile number . Not a online tool though .
Abit of fun but hopefully some questions answered.
I usually go through Carrington National for my 105 deals. They both encumber Investments and Owner occupiers. However, they are strict on where they lend, in other words, postcode restricted. Ask your broker to research this option for you.
*EDIT* sorry thought you talking about residential properties. please disregard.
Of course not. Lenders are categorise under two lending categories. Conforming and Non-Conforming.
Conforming are the big banks, such as CBA, WBC, ANZ, St Geogre, Macquarie etc etc
Non-Conforming are lenders that look for applications that the Conforming lenders wont touch. These are Bluestone, Pepper Home Loans etc.
When it comes to bad credit, depending on the serverity of the defaults the Conforming lenders can still look at you, however in most bad credit ratings, you move into the Non-Conforming Category.
Most of these non-conforming lenders flucuate their lending criteria and indicative depending on the serverity of the defaults. Defaults last on your Report for a period of up to 5yrs.
Consultant your broker for the options and suggestions, their is a loan out there for everyone. If you dont have someone acting on your behalf send me a PM and ill try to offer you some assistance.
Anyway is possible, its up to you to choose the path you want to go down.
MPI = Mortgage Protection Insurance is different to
LMI = Lenders Mortgage Insurance
MPI is protecting your repayments if you fall ill or lose your job or become disabled. This is an insurance that you take out for piece of mind so that any time in the future that you may not be able to make repayments on the loan, then the MPI company will pay them for you untill you reach to your normal status again
LMI is protecting the lender from any misconduct you make on the loan, so if you fall down the crapper and the house is sold under the mortgageee, however the proceeds of the house doesnt fully cover the loan + Solicitor fees + Enforcement Fees yada yada yada, then the LMI company pays the gap to the lender. LMI is protecting the lender not you.
**WARNING** This is a long post and i apologise, i hope this answer some questions and it isnt too confusing to understand the jest of what im saying. **WARNING***
Yes the repayments will be higher as the loan amount has increased. Ring your lender to confirm the minimum repayment amount every month.
I think what terryw means is doing an internal refinance or what we like to call a “Top-up”. grabbing the equity out of your home by increasing the existing loan amount. Loan amount goes UP your equity goes DOWN.
If you wanted to use the first property you bought to put a deposit down on the second one, all we do is dip into your equity by toping up your existing loan, so that the equity you diped into can help you pay for a deposit on the house and maybe cover the cost of the fees incurred in buying the property.
CRASH COURSE IN HOME LOANS TIME!!!
To obtain equity from your house, you must first apply for a home loan to get it. So for instance, that the house was worth $120,000 now and the loan against the house was $80,000. You effectively have $40,000 worth of equity, but here is where it gets abit strange. All loans have a fee called LMI aka Lenders Mortgage Insurance. Now every borrower doesnt want to pay this because it can be a huge fee dpending on the loan amount. To get around this, we only borrow up to 80% of the value of the house, because if the LVR (loan to value ratio) is less then 80% when applying for a home loan, the LMI (Lenders Mortgage Insurance) is payed by the lender. (if it is a Full Doc Loan)
So lets put this into an example. You want to buy your first house. Its sale price is $400,000. Most lenders will only allow you to borrow up to 95-98% of the value of the property, thus making you save up the rest, which is alot because you have to cover for all the fees of the lender and the property and also the deposit on the house to make it fit within the banks guidelines. Now you are asking, well what is the estimated fee for Lenders Mortgage Insurance, LMI is calculated on a percentage of the loan amount, this can range from say 0.5% to 3%. We shall use a figure of say 2.5%. 2.5% x $400000 = $10,000 !!!!!! That is only LMI fee, then you got to consider paying the Stamp Duty on the property, application fees, settlement fees etc etc. Its a very hefty chunk out of your savings. To get around this will only borrow up to 80%. Then this figure of $10,000 will go all the way down to 0! However, the money that you have must make up the difference.
Ok back to the story, you can in fact, dip into this equity whenever you want however it also comes down to the price your willing to pay to get the equity. If you wanted to avoid Lenders Mortgage Insurance, then you will only want to borrow up to 80% of the value of the house. Getting back to the intial example,
value = $120000
$120,000x 0.80% = $96,000.
Take this away from your loan 96000 – 80000 = $16,000. You can easily obtain around $16,000 without paying to much in lenders fees. However, if your willing to pay for the LMI then you can borrow up to 95%.
$120,000 x 95% = $114,000.
$114,000 – 80,000 = $34,000
$34,000 is what you can borrow up to (depending on Income of course), from this you gotta deduct LMI, application fee, mortgage stamp duty etc etc.
So it all comes down to what your willing to pay to grab the most amount of equity.
END OF CRASH COURSE
Now! Onto Cross Collaterisation. Its quite simple, its using your equity on your current property to help cover the cost of purchasing the next property, but your not increasing your current loan, your multiplying the securities on the new loan, thus have a 2nd Mortgage over your current Property. Let me explain, Cross Collertisation means your placing 2 or more securitys on ONE Loan. An example will help understand this better.
2 Propertys:
Property A = $120,000
Property B = $150,000
Total Loans against Property A = $50,000
Property B is the house your buying.
You go to CBA and apply for a loan of $157,500 to buy Property B plus a little bit extra to cover the fees incurred……..wait Josh, didnt you say that Lenders will only lend you to a percentage of the property value…… Well yes that is correct.
The LVR in this example is
$157,500 / $150,000 = 105%..But Josh…didnt you say most lenders will only lend to about 95-98% of the property value…well yes……So how do we get this LVR, currently at 105%, to 95-98%….well it lies in the equity existing in the current property. When you apply for the loan, when you say which property will be securing this loan, instead of the loan securing one property, its securing two propertys…..does this become abit clearer??…….sooooo we use this simple The cross collateralise equation:
Total Loans / Total Value = LVR
($50,000 + $157,500) / ($120,000 + $150,000) = your LVR is now 76% rather then 105%, making the transaction alot more affordable.
So basically, cross collateralising is securing many propertys against one loan. However this isnt always advisable, as it becomes abit “messy”. As its hard sometimes to remember which property is securing which loan and if you want to “discharge” one of the securities off the loan. Most buyers/investors would like a very tidy loan, One Security Over One Loan.
Like i said, i apologise, i hope i havent confused the hell out of you’se.
Cross Collateralisation – This can be good and bad, all depends on your situation and what you want to achieve.
Terryw example doesnt include cross collaterisation, however it is the most perfered method when you want to buy multiple houses, as all loans are securitised by one property rather then many.
i havent seen the word Power Loan used in so many posts at once…If you sign up on this forum your either wanting help or like to give it. I am here to help people achieve their dreams, buying a house, helping them invest, what ever they need. i wouldnt be on here for any other reasons, i like to put myself in the client’s shoes and to think about what i would do in their situation.
Honestly, i think this topic has been made to endorse the Power Loan Franchises and its employees.
No one is here to bag anyone. All the people here are friendly and only wish to get to know you more. By telling us where you are from, could raise questions that only a La Trobe employee might know.
Back to the questions.
very hard to find a low doc lender that wil lend with only a short term employment, Westpac does not check ABNs however you still have to place on the application that you work in the industry for more then 2 years.
The only option i might see is doing a No-Doc. Interstar, RAMS, Macquarie are probably your main avenues for No-Doc.
Watch out for Penalty costs for canceling the loan early…usually a percentage of the loan amount…. the biggest cost is usually within the first 12months…
Bringing lodgments up to date
Our work to ensure people are meeting their lodgment obligations and bringing their outstanding returns up to date will continue.
For example, we are still working to ensure people who apply for low documentation (‘low doc’) loans are meeting their tax obligations. We have also examined a number of loan brokers who arrange the loans.
So far we have checked approximately 133,000 low doc loan records against lodged tax returns and identified over 19,000 loan applicants with outstanding tax returns. We are working steadily through this large group to bring people up to date. As a result approximately $3.5 million in tax has been raised to date.
We have also identified nearly 7,000 taxpayers with 28,000 activity statements outstanding. While we still have more work to do, around 2,400 of these activity statements have been lodged to date accounting for around $3.4 million in tax and penalties.
We have completed audits on a sample of loan brokers who we consider pose the highest risk. To date audits of 16 brokers in NSW and Victoria have raised tax and penalties of nearly $2 million. Audits conducted on 97 clients of two brokers have resulted in adjustments to income totalling just under $4 million.
Industry associations are working with us to address tax compliance issues and brokers who breach codes of conduct. This includes the Finance Brokers Association of Australia and the Mortgage Industry Association of Australia who have joined our industry partnership group.
This will allows us to gather the information we need to check the income required to service the loans matches the income declared in applicants’ tax returns.
With No-Doc Products, a statement of position isnt required or in other words, no income, asset, liabilities needs to be declared, they sign a declaration stating the fact that it wont bring upon financial hardship if they go for a No-doc Loan. However, no doc loans needs a fair bit of a deposit..normally 30%.
If you are purchasing the property as a investment property then you are not eligible for the FHOG, this doesnt mean your not able to get the FHOG further down the track, its just that intially you wont be able to apply as you need to owned & occupied the property.
Is there anything in particular that you would like to know, finance wise as i could go all day with explaining finance .
most lenders work on a 80% Loan to Value ratio, or LVR. If the payout amount is less then 80% of the value of the property, then no LMI is applicable, however this is only applicable to Full Doc Loans.
Depends on if you want to reside in the house or not, remember that FHOG are only applicable to Owner Occupied purchases not investments & must satisfy the questions laid out in the FHOG Application. one requirement of FHOG is that you must reside in the house for a period a time, normally 6-12months. You can, after 6-12months has passed, to rent the property to someone else.
In this situation, might be a consideration to buy it as an investment so that you can still obtain the grant for your own house that you want to buy.
The decision is entirely yours. Any other problems, dont hesitate to ask.