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- mattnz wrote:Sell Gold Coast and buy 2 in Dysart.
Even though the Gold Coast airport is only months away from signing a contract to have flights to all the mining centres for fly in fly out workers?
Why buy two in Dysart Matt?
jamesw82 wrote:Looking at buying my second investment property, my first being on the gold Coast. I am looking at getting my second one in Dysart, have i missed the boat or is it still a recommendation. I hear they are looking at signing a big contract for fly in fly out workers, will this affect the rental properties there.
Hi James,
this argument is still continuing so who knows the outcome. I look for areas in regional Qld that are more sustainable, still positively geared (just not as crazy as Dysart and Moranbah). However they are a lot more secure ans capital growth is as good as all the other areas.
If they do sign a contract like this it will affect rental prices and more so capital growth as many people wouldn’t want to invest in an area that is so highly regulated by the companies around it.
shoooshoo wrote:one question i keep wondering, is how can you tell if an area is going to be supply constricted? apart from looking at the current rental availability, and ringing the council to see what land releases are going to take forth in the future.Hi Shooshoo,
You need to look at the following factors:
1. Approved projects/investment for an area
2. Study the EIS (environmental impact statement) of each project. This will tell you a) construction workforce b) long term workforce c) life expectancy of the project d) accommodation requirements for project
3. Above 2 points for proposed projects
4. If that all points to growth in employees living in a region/town on a long term basis the continue your research to…
5. Then look at the town that the projects will affect, the accommodation in the area, the land available, the land coming up (council or real estate agents should help here). From there you should be able to have a rough idea if demand will severely outweigh supply.That’s all summed up pretty short, it can take a lot of research to get all the info if your looking at dropping 500k into an area but that’s the basic starting point to know whether a long term investment is viable and profitable.
Cheers,
Hi Thommo,
youre correct, they will be the first to go. Question is, will this area ever be quite again due to mining?
I have a lot of knowledge in CQ as I have a lot of investments there and have lived in Emerald for a number of years previously.
If you follow my Blog (address below) I will be travelling and extensivelly researching all of these areas and assessing them for investment. If you have any questions just ask.
Cheers
wow you got yourself into a bad one here!
Hi Investhut,
the first thing to do here would be to work out your net position at EOFY for your PPR when it becomes and IP. Have a depreciation estimate prepared (BMT quantity surveyors do these). Im assuming the townhouse is a bit older so this may be quite a small amount. Also ask yourself if this townhouse will achieve much capital gain in the next 5 years. If you think it will be low then it may be worth moving it on and look at buying something with higher potential CG once you’ve settled in to the bigger house.
If you do transfer it to an IP have a valuation done when you do and keep it for when you sell so you can differentiate your CG from when it was a PPR and in IP.
What state are you buying in? In most cases it is a good time to buy with lower consumer confidence you might get a good deal on the big house. This would also raise the question on not selling the townhouse until the market picks up depending where you are.
Cheers,
Wow Andrew property number 23! that’s dedication! do you charge a flat fee or charge by how much work is done by you?
As an agent selling properties I may seem crazy here, however we charge a commission to the builder for getting them bulk sales throughout the year without them having to market and have displays etc. Our fee is quite moderate i must admit, however i do know that others charge upwards of 35-40k for this (to the builder). From a personal point of view, to go and charge an extra fee to the client is pretty rude.
Places that have “strategies” are refined strategies from personal investment (most of the time you would hope this is the case). That’s what I show my clients, what I have done and how I do it. The majority of my clients honestly struggle to come up with a strategy, however a lot of people can and do. There is no ONE way to invest in property. I have my ways, you will have another and someone else will have another again. Find what you’re comfortable with, is the first step in choosing a team. If you aren’t comfortable with doing much yourself, then a firm that sells and project manages will suit you (if buying new), if you’re happy to do a bit more work, then a buyers agent will suit you, if you want to do all the work, then do it! Then choose the location. Look for what you think will grow. At the end of the day just because one person told you that an area or a certain radius from the CBD is the only way to invest doesn’t mean you cant loose sleep over it. Do what you’re comfortable with.
I personally have chosen regional Qld and talk the benefits that I have found from it to my clients, however I still get people turning around and asking how much will it grow in the future. I nor anyone else can answer this about an area (how long is a piece of string) So when clients ask me this I know that they are not ready for the risk, they still want that re-assurance which is something that at the end of the day only you can provide (or until the property has made significant capital gain then you can sleep).
JPS25 wrote:Hi Property Invester 1We are just about ready to build our 2nd IP in Chinchilla with the same builder we used last time. They are very good and all thier homes are built to a high standard.
Not a lot of land left to build on at the moment but will be more in the near future so you need to be quick or wait for the next development to open up.
Good Luck
Jean and Paul
Hi Jean & Paul,
Can I ask what builder you used in Chinchilla?
Thanks
Hi Tony,
You’re correct on what I am thinking, I have tried to get a couple of my builders from the Sunshine Coast and Brisbane to go there and they have all looked at it and come to that conclusion. Gladstone has risen dramatically this year alone, and I believe there is more to come. However from a new home perspective, Land seems quite expensive which is pushing the new home price above valuations. I must stress, these are my thoughts, not my knowledge, i will know a lot more when I’m on the ground (which was going to be tomorrow however there was not ONE place with available accommodation! can only be a good thing!)
Buying a bit above Val has never bothered me if there’s a lot of activity happening as it can only be a matter of 6 months and you’re even sometimes. I will let you know what I see and think. What areas have you been looking at?
Cheers, Josh
Pre-Negotiation is key here. It should always be done at the start (hiring the manager) but can be done at this stage in. I even go as far as pre negotiating that if the manager cannot get me a 12 month lease then I will not pay any subsequent let fees for a 12 month period. (that is only 1 let fee can be charged every 12 months). I then Ensure that a new let fee can only be charged upon one tenant vacating and another occupying the property no matter when that is.
I would be going to them now and saying that you are a valued client, you can easily take your business elsewhere, that you have been offered to not be charge a let/start up fee from their competitors etc. And for the inconvenience i would be asking for some reduction in management fees (may be hard if you have only 1 property with them). It might also be worth calling a competitor and asking what they will offer you to take the management over. ie rates etc.
Oh and on a final note….Do NOT self manage! A good agent is worth their weight in gold, its just a matter of finding one.
Happy investing
what state was your sale in?
My one is new and below, focus regional Qld and am about to blog a road trip all around there beginning this week
Thanks everyone!
QM wrote:Thank you PPI. CAn you explain more about Stage 1and 2 of the LNG if you have time…thanks again!Hi QM,
I will be going to Gladstone on Wednesday, also will be meeting for a second time with shell/arrow energy and will have a lot more info on stage 1&2 for you.
You may want to follow my blog as I am spending a lot of time throughout CQ over the next few weeks for research etc.
coalstar wrote:Hi,never been to Emerald, good to hear that the majority of the town didn’t get flooded. If the town has high parts within then they wouldn’t get floooded. Moura is a good example of this where the dawson river is about 10km away. As you head east from the river towards the river and start heading upwards you notice the town is built high up.
why all the fuss about Emerald? I have to say though it would be a safer option than other towns as its diversified
For me it’s a personal favorite, I made my first 1m there so am a bit biased but fir good reason. Diversification is the key when it comes to regional Qld, there were some mining towns that went dead during the GFC, whilst Emerald glided through very smoothly, it is in fact, in real terms, one of the only diversified industry townships that fared well in Qld during the GFC.
I also have businesses there and it literally gets busier by the day! Its quite phenomenal really. There are some great investments there, PM me if you would like any assistance with regional Qld.
Cheers
Hi Everyone,
Gladstone is the first stop for Wednesday, will be meeting with local agents and property managers (if anyone has personal favorites I’d love to hear from you) will be looking at some new estate as well as a couple of small development sites at this stage. I’m looking forward to also seeing what Reno opportunities are there and assess the viability due to a potential lack of trades with builders etc.
Hi Fred,
You've been through some great material which is a good start, Rich Dad Poor Dad is great isn't it! We had some workshops that we did in Melbourne which have just been. The workshops was teaching my personal strategy and focusing on my favorite town Emerald! It's great you have identified it, may I ask how you came to choose/identify Emerald? I lived there for a number of years starting my portfolio and now it is at the 15 mark for Emerald. To climb to 25 next year.
After working in real estate their for a couple of number of years I started my own company which focuses on investment properties around regional Qld as I have quite a bit of knowledge of these areas.
From a personal point of view I would be wary of cash-flow capital. When I was in real estate they would call up and act like a buyer, get photos sent and every bit of information they could then they would upload the property on to their site <moderator:n delete personal comment> and then try to find a buyer through workshops etc, then call the agent back in hope that they would conjunct on the property. <moderator: delete personal comment> so in my experience they are trying to sell you something that in many cases they aren't even aloud to try to sell.
Please don't take this as biased advice, this is just my experience with them.
Also…never buy a house of someone who hasn't been to the area or doesn't have project managers in the area full time.
If you would like any advice on emerald or regional Qld please feel free to email me, and yes, I do sell properties that I identify as good investments however I am more than happy to let you know what I do when it comes to my property portfolio and the areas that I work with without trying to sell you anything.
Anyway, I hope this forum helps you, it is a great way to get good advice Cheers,
coalstar wrote:how do banks go lending in emerald with the recent floods? does this affect the lvr if the property is n a flood zone? are parts of emerald flood proof?Hi Coalstar,
Banks are fine with Emerald, In fact the banks LOVE IT! I have Westpac offering to fly anywhere in the country with me when i do seminars on Emerald/CQ. LVR does not get affected from my experience (banks may differ but in general). What does get affected is the valuation.
As for “floodproof”…one would call Toowoomba at the top of a range flood proof but this was proven wrong this year too! I say that as i think it is not possible to call anything flood proof any more. However, in regards to the rivers rising etc, against many people belief, a lot of Emerald did not get flooded! and i mean a LOT!
I build most of my stuff in an estate that is the highest part of the township so I would consider it to be “floodproof” in my own terms but we never know what mother nature can throw at us!
have you been to Emerald before coalstar?
Aspire homes has been in contact with me a few weeks ago however they have not responded to ANY emails, and i cannot even reach them on the phone! i have tried 7 times!
not a good start when they are trying to sell me a number of homes/builds… from this i have written them off as I am afraid of what service may be like when i give them my money!
I am looking at getting my builder from the sunshine coast/Brisbane up there if everything stacks up. I can let you know what i find out next Wednesday if you like
Terryw wrote:I think you should get some proper advice first.I agree with Terry here, there are so many options in the property world, and in fact so many people with different opinions as there are so many ways to make money in property. There are safe ways, there are risky ways and there are ways in between. Its hard to even recommend who to see, I know a financial advisor or planner would state the obvious but even then you are facing a biased point of view if you get the wrong one. Also if you ask the wrong person about something they don’t know eg a structure or area lets say, then quite often they will dismiss the idea without giving it any thought.
This is how I work when it comes to property, and I stress I am in no way giving advice here. I look where I WANT to be in 20 years (long way I know), then I break that down to where i NEED to be in 15 years to achieve that 20 year goal (although in 20 years a lot can change I know also). From there I break down what I NEED and where I NEED to be to get what I WANT right down to today.
However in saying this, I found it easier said than done initially. It took me a number of years to get the ball rolling smoothly. It doesn’t take everyone that long maybe I’m just a slow learner (You’ll see Nathan Birch got the feel of his model fairly quickly). Any property advised based person can help you “map” out a strategy, I do with (not for) my clients and so do many others. However each person is going to make that map relevant to what they know, and in a some cases to what benefits them also. I think at this stage there is no right or wrong answer for you, seek AS MUCH advise as possible, decipher what you want or need to, work out what and where you’re comfortable with, and pick what YOU think will grow and will help your strategy.
Hope this helps you,
reggie5005 wrote:G'day JoshI am currently looking at properties in Chinchilla, would look forward to your thoughts and comments on this area.
CheersRod
Thanks Rod,
Chinchilla will be visited very shortly, not to far from me actually (Noosa Heads) compared to the other towns. Im excited about seeing chincilla actually. I have met with Shell / Arrow energy who are large players in the Coal Seam Gas in this area so will be interesting to see what can happen here.
Will report back!