Thank you for your knowledgable posts. We just purchased our first investment under a discretionarty trust with a company as trustee. 97% was finance and the rest of the funds around 30000 was intended as gift to the trust as it was our personal funds. We made a mention of this in our minutes for the trustee company. But we transferred the funds directly from our personal bank accounts to the settlement agent. Have we compromised our asset protection? If so how can we rectify this. Some one mentioned on another forum to transfer the money now to the trustee account and transfer it back now ie almost a month after settlement. Will this work? Thank you
Thanx Jamie and Richard. My accountant is a chartered accountant and he himself invests a lot into property an developments.thank you for your valuable advice. Will definitely keep your advise in mind.
Our serviceability is good. Our accountant says we can borrow another 750 K or so. We have our PPOR rented i.e. is negatively geared. Our IP about 25$ a week negatively geared if you include all expenses involved so we are now looking for a positively geared property to offset the negative gearing. Our goal is pick up 10 properties in 10 years . We want to eventually have a 2 mil in equity i.e. loan free so we can continue to have the same income on retirement (around 250k) to maintain the same standard of living.
Setting up a trust wasn’t very difficult. Just make sure you get a professional to do it at least the first time for you. It cost me 1650. We set up a family trust with a company as trustee with my husband and I as appointees of the trust and beneficiaries. We then set up another trust that was the share holder of the company for asset protection purposes.
We then went ahead and contacted a mortgage insurer who went through our finances and said we had the serviceability and could get a 95% loan. The next day I went ahead and put an offer on a 2-1-1 property I have found close to the city and was an urgent sale by the owner. It had reno potential. The only draw back was that it was a starta unit with start fee of around 350 a quarter and rates 1800 per year. Pricefinder said that it was worth 345k and after negotiations we purchased for 310k. It is currently rented at 320. I plan to reno the kitchen which is really bad and rent it for 350.
Home loans asked for about 6 pay slips from my husband and accepted just the one from me. We came up with a 5% deposit and 9k stamp duty and they added 6k LMI to 294k loan.
One of my friends purchased with Homeside it was being processed by another mortgage broker. It was quick and swift. The same broker had helped him get a loan through Homeloans the month before and the process took more time. So I am going to go with Homeside with my next purchase in 2 months time. We plan to set up another trust and a company for the next purchase but the share holder company remains the same. This time we will buy the trust deed and company online and get the accountant to go thru it.
Our property purchase price is 310000. We bought it 25k under market price. So 6.5k is around 2%. thanx for the info Kathryn. Yes Joe you are right, kitchen is always the focal point. Thanx
thanx Richard, will surely do. hi mattsta. thank you for your response.Yes we have decided to stay put for a year and pay more into our properties to make them positive. I have in the meanwhile asked ANZ to do a valuation on the exPPOR to check what equity we have on that one.
phew. initially i filled the price of my own home in the PPOR section and my score -609 but then i remember we have rented it out and reentered the info and our score is 294 thank you steve this is such an eye opener. I don’t think i will ever move back into our PPOR :0
oh i get it, i went back to your earlier post, yes the marginal tax is huge but then we worry of asset protection, i guess if we borrow the maximum equity, this should cover, without compromising the CGT. Am i right?
What is the advantage of transferring the property into my husband’s name? We were thinking in terms of asset protection and me doing a less riskier job thought it would be safer to have it in my name. Am I wrong? Yes we have just realised that and that is definitely our next consideration now that you have pointed out to look for value adding or positive geared properties
yes i am aware we can’t negative gear the IP in the trust, what i meant was the PPOR rented out.
The spousal buy out is something we hadn’t thought about. How do we do this? Just transfer the title to my name?
We have requested A*Z to set up an equity loan to buy our next investment property.
No the properties are not cross-collatrelised. PPOR with A*Z and IP with Homeloans Ltd.
Hope that makes sense
Thank you for your suggestions, all taken on board
Thank you of your response and suggestions. Yes we do intend to move back into our PPOR in 3 years time as we do not want to miss out on the CGT.
How do we borrow 105% finance? Is that by using equity in the PPOR?
Also, we have purchased our IP under a DT structure with company trustee and the share holders of the company is another trust. This means we cannot claim losses on my husband’s income and will have to wait till the property starts making income. Do you think next IP should be purchased under a unit trust to claim tax deductions. We went for a DT to maximise asset protection even though my husband and I both have professional indemnity in place along with income and life insurance.