Just because You can, doesn’t mean you should, or it will suit your retirement goals…
When investing in SMSF, you need to evaluate a lot more factors than just your super balance. for instance:
* your age/years to retirement?
* your risk profile/liquidity needs
* your current and projected income / job security
and a fair few other factors.
You should speak to a financial adviser before making any decisions. especially with ‘special investments’.
A lot to consider. perhaps consider talking to a financial adviser or investment mentor who has been there and done what you are wanting to do. There are a lot of hidden costs involved with subdividing and building duplexes etc…
The good news is, you guys are in a fantastic financial position for your age. Most people try to get in your position at age 50+. A lot of your strategy should incorporate ‘wealth protection’ strategies.
Personally i think you have 2 properties on 2 of the most growth potential suburbs on the GC.
I own my PPR in Southport (just behind Ferry Rd markets). Purchased in June 2013 for $360k. Just had it bank valued at $410k. (all we did was add a feature front fence – $5k spend). Southport will only go up as the state and local governemnt spends money on it in the lead up to Comm Games. Hang onto it!
The reason i got a bank val, is that I am looking to buy an IP in MERRIMAC!
Merrimac is quite a big suburb with heaps of development and There has been plans on the cards with council for AGES to connect the back of South Merrimac to Robina (near the Robina stadium – you can see they have already started to build the road but it just goes into swamp for now).
If it does eventually connect up to Robina, it will be 2 mins drive to Robina Town Centre, and it is already less than 5 mins drive from Pacific Fair which will become QLD’s largest shopping centre in 2016. + 8 mins to the beach.
There is a good and bad side of Merrimac… The McDonalds side is the older side. The BP side is the good side with all the development and potential to be linked to Robina.
Sometimes these companies can provide a great service to those who lack the ability to find the right debt structure and investment avenue.
However, I think it is important with any of these companies to check the following:
1. Where the company is receiving their income (is it the finance, the property, the land… etc.) – Ask for this information up front.
2. Ask to see a list of related entities/companies that may also be receiving income from your investment/debt consolidation. This may be a way the company is receiving income from you without having to disclose this to you.
3. Get your own independent property valuation. This may cost $200 but worth it if you are making a $400k investment.
4. Visit the area you are investing in. If it is an obscure area you don’t know much about, jump on a flight or take the weekend to go see the area and talk to locals. (again this may cost $500+ but well worth it to educate yourself on the area).
– Sadly this is (but not always) a 101 trick from ‘property spruikers’ selling your overpriced property in an area you are unfamiliar with.
5. Ring the local council and ask questions about whats happening in the area. Bureaucrats love to speak sh#7 about their area, but at the same time will also give you the truth about “proposed developments” and “growth”.
6. Realestate dot com can be a powerful tool to keep ‘spruikers’ honest. If you find that you are not give the actual address of the property you are buying until relatively late in the discussion, then this could be because they dont want you doing your research.
if your property is 8 Great street… google 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12 on Great street and google map the suburb and check surrounding subburbs. Onthehouse.com.au provide great info on sale history and valuations.
Can anyone add anything else to this to ensure your investment stacks up?
All the best!
This reply was modified 10 years, 1 month ago by Jimmy86. Reason: spelling
Interesting.
I always had the perception it was shady.
It is such an unfortunate name ‘rent to own’ it sounds dodgee and gives media such a head start… haha.
You have to be careful, about 3 years ago my wife used our personal cc (anz) on our merchant facility of our small business we had back then (suncorp) and because the merchant and the CC was an exact name match, we got a phone call from the bank within 24hrs (suncorp) telling me that legally they must report it to the ATO. Apparently it is a money laundering/washing technique. I got speaking to the lady and explained the mistake and she told me that within 6 months these types of transactions will be automatically flagged to the ATO without any warning or phone call.
It will be semi-detached. Not much construction will be taking place close to the structure of the house, as the far wall of our garage will also double as one of the walls for the granny flat.
The property is on the Gold Coast (Southport).
Yeah i will definitely ask for it to be fenced off to minimize disturbance to us (or a tenant).
What would people do (if in higher tax brackets…)
1. Move out of the PPR now, switch to IP loan (interest only) and put tenants in. Then start construction on the extension/granny flat TO GET TAX BENEFITS OF 'CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS'.
or
2. Remain living in the house as our PPR to oversee the construction. Move out and convert to IP after construction so as to get the higher val for future capital gains tax minimization..?
I realise not everyone is able to provide tax advice, but any personal similar situations…?
Great point Made_Man, I didn't think of the impact on the existing tenant through the construction phase… Is it common to offer cheaper rent to subsidise or..?
You'd be surprised how far a good bleach of bathroom tiles, sinks and windowsill clean/paint + buying a $50 new basin/tap set (from bunnings) can make a bathroom look 5 years younger and add value to your rental asking price.
We have an IP with beautiful hardwood floors and have bought cheap bulk/scrap carpet to DIY cover the living room and bedrooms. AKA rental proof our flooring, which is a major feature if we decide to sell it in future.
However im only partially comfortable about "Who" to go and see first to set this up? A lawyer? An Accountant? or Financial Advisor? If the answer is the Accountant, should i use my current accountant? I already have a family trust that has purchased one property and my current accountant knows my situation well. (sorry as im not sure if this is a silly question). Similar should i be using the same finance broker? or should i split up my lending?
Your accountant can only give limited advice on property in SMSF, as it is regulated by ASIC and ATO. – they can help you set it up though.
Your Broker, real estate agent cannot give you advice on SMSF set up or property investment. – they can assist you in property sourcing and the right finance product to suit.
See a financial planning firm that has SMSF advice experience. Set it up right. Get an understanding of compliance. Then source your investment
Just make sure you scope out the FULL amount of fees before you proceed with your property purchase, and make sure you get all these fees in writing before you proceed either way.
Also (and possibly risking hatred of myself to other forum members, considering it being a 'property investing forum') …consider diversifying your investment plan with your SMSF.
As there is a lot of industry buz happening about people with lower balances entering the SMSF sphere and purchasing a single asset class with their whole balance.
ie buying 1 x property. – puts you at more risk than possibly in your retail or industry fund.
Also, with your fees, you would need to take into consideration considerable increased 'insurance fees' to cover yourself, your family and investments'.
In saying this though, I don't want to scare you off. Property investment and borrowing to invest in property is the fastest growing sector within SMSFs. And the majority of Australian's are most comfortable investing in property because they are familiar with it, and have done very well with it, and the Australian market is relatively stable.
We would advise you to consider either pooling with a family member or salary sacrificing to boost your balance and consider some cash/equity diversification to buffer yourself and satisfy the 'sole purpose test' that ASIC are warning about.
I'd consider getting a statement of advice drawn up to consider your age, income, contributions, retirement goals and then assess if property is going to suit you.
My parents have had a similar situation and from what I can remember they went in (successfully) with class action… probably because a lawyer got wind of it and rallied everyone into it for a lump comm
It can be tricky. Ill ask them and get back to you
One of the main reasons Bitcoins will not achieve mainstream success will be that it is not pinned against any security or intrinsic value. Ie our centralised currency is pinned against (from memory) the gold standard. and currencies used to even include gold content in coins… "cash" began as a certificate system against your gold holding… ie. if you had a $100 bank note… you held $100 worth of gold in the bank…
We have heavily moved away from this system… ENTER: Global Financial Crisis.
But this is why currencies with good government guarantees and banking regulations tend to attract wider investment.
I see Bitcoins as a means to an end… I think there will be a single global currency that will eventually emerge, and i think it will have aspects of 'bitcoin' but it will DEFINATELY be:
1. pegged against something (ie. precious metals) or some government
2. will be regulated and controlled by governments (or one global government / IMF).