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Thanks, TFC.
What is ‘DA’ when you said ” When looking for properties try and think of how you can add value to help with capital growth. How? Properties that you can renovate, extend (up, down, left, right) and develop (or at least get DA).”
Cheers.Phew!…. Lucky I asked!
Your point is taken – steer out of serv apartments. Being a commercial loan is also another reason I don’t want to get into.
So, regional investment properties? Yes, they are also on my research list. Looking at the price, they seem to be cheap – very cheap in fact, to the point that I doubted myself: well, if these houses are so cheap, then everyone will be able to afford/buy – why bother renting? Which means I will definitely have difficulty renting them out. Also the rental yields aren’t as high as CBD studios. Regional properties seem too far and feels like out of my control, whereas studios are closer to where I live and this is probably the reason why I felt more comfortable with studios.
But now having crossed off studios and serv apts, regional properties are certainly of consideration. Don’t people just buy them to own – I mean why rent when regional properties are so cheap? What sort of property management fee (percentage of rental), do agents charge for managing regional properties? Do agents tend to take advantage or short cuts in managing the property because the landlord is far away? And how do investors generally feel about owning investment properties that are far away from where they live?
Thanks.
Hi JacM, I am also interested in the geelong region. What does “PM me” mean in the context: “There really is no ignoring Corio. PM me if you want more info on geelong and which property managers to definitely avoid.”?
JennyHi Kristin,
You mentioned about ‘when the lease is about to expire….’. Don’t hotel management usually renew the lease when it about to expires? What conditions are to met before they renew? And what sort of lease terms are generally given for serviced apartments? Thanks.
Jenny.Thanks Everyone for the insight.
So studios don’t sound like a good investments. My next option was serviced apartment, as all the costs are paid for by the hotel management. The only things I were afraid of was that they would constantly demand me to uplift/renovate the apartment, otherwise they would not extend the lease option, which means I would forever have to spend big money to keep the apartment flashy else I’d lose the lease. I have yet to do some more research.
Kristin, thanks for the offer. I will hang on for the time being. And yes, the studios I were looking at did have a gym and all the buildings have 2 lifts.
Regards,
JennyHI Richard,
I think they all have a separate bathroom. Anyway, by 'separate', did you mean a bathroom with its own door for privacy? If the answer is yes, then the studio does have a separate bathroom together with a toilet, but a very small bathroom though. The total size of the studio is only about 16 – 18 sq meter. Do you reckon I could get finance at 70% value even for this studio size? I am in Melb.
Thanks.Do hotel groups require ongoing maintenance by the owners? If yes, generally how often, what need to be maintained and roughly how much in dollars term or as a ratio of the current market value of the serviced apartment? And what if the owner didn't wish to spend any further on the maintenance – do hotel management then cancel the lease?
thanks.
Uhm.. That's why I have been thinking of opening another trust account with my name as trustee. Just the nightmare of paperworks has been deterring me.
Regards,
jennyHi Lisasun,
I work in melb and melb cbd studios have the price range that I think I could save for in the next couple to 3 years. Another reason is because I may want to live in it in between tenants (usually tenancy for these type of studios are only 6 months and it takes up to 4 weeks to refill another tenant. It is convenient to go to work. The studio ofcourse will be purely for investment purposel; otherwise it would be too costly to live in. Another reason why I've been thinking of stuido is because of the positive cashflow (but then again when I weighed against the ongoing high running costs and the constant agent costs as there is a high tenancy turnover, I am not quite so sure whether positive returns still hold true).
It is for long term, as I don't think I will be able to resell it quicly for quick cash. And because it is for long term, I am hoping that it will at least make the equivalent of CPI gain per annum, i.e. 3 to 3.5% capital growth. Does this sound unachievable for capital growth?
Just the high running costs that worry me. But I've done the calculations. 4months of rental will cover all costs. 2 weeks vacancy for in-between tenants every 6 months; i.e. 1 month of vancy. In total 5 months to cover all costs. I will be left with 7 months of rental checks in my pocket, which work out an equivalent return of 6%, which is roughly around bank deposit return. So all I am hoping for is at least a capital return equivalent to roughly CPI per annum. If this is not even achievable, then I think it is very tough to invest in studios.
You mentioned CBA may do smaller size – do you or anyone know their minimum square meter? Thanks.
Thanks Terry. I understand now.
Given that the IP is in my name as trustee, should I or could I ask the solicitor to make the cheque out to my name as Trustee for the family trust?
About the 'bare trustee', if anything, I'd say Mum has been the bare trustee as she has no power. It was just on the paper that I made her the trustee, but the IP is still in my name.Ok. Thanks to a number of you. A little research through this forum has basically summarised that there is literally no capital growth in studios, banks don't lend under 40sq m size and high overall running costs.
So my questions are:
1. On the capital growth issue: banks tend to be a little more liberal these days – some have reduced their size criteria from 50sq m to 40sq m. Given this trend, one could hope for further reduced criteria to 30sq m or even 20sq m in the near future. If this was the case, would there be a higher demand for studios as more people would be able to borrow to buy? And higher demand will ofcourse equate to 'easier to resell' than now?2. Oversupply issue: if CBD studios and 1beds are hard to resell and banks don't like them, then why do Council planner and developers and the like keep erecting them, if not due to high demand (well, that was what I used to think)? Currently there are at least 3 new buildings are being built in the CBD (not counting Southbank).
3. Is 3.5% annual capital growth for studios sounds reasonable? Obviously one would like a lot higher, but is 3.5% p.a achievable, or is it simply no capital growth at all?
Hi WomeninPropMelb, Luckily it turned out I had never an ex. So the IP is still with the family. Just so unfortunately that the mess that was created and now undoing it, I am worrying that I may create even a bigger mess like double CGT as explained earlier, stamp duty, potentially affecting Mum's pension etc……
it is not really Mum's money, so I don't want the cheque to go to Mum's name. I definitely want it to go the trust name. Do settlement/conveyancing solicitor must make out the cheque with the trustee name, or usually the trust name alone is sufficient?
Also, making the cheque to Mum will affect her pension, which of course I don't want.
Terry, you mentioned about Mum getting pension will be affect by 'that'. What did you mean by 'that' – the settlement proceeds going into her name or Mum being the trustee on the trust deed (bear in mind that the IP is in my name as trustee though)?
Thanks.
sorry – that was 'cost ratio per unit'.
Hi. I can understand about expenditure for the administration fund. But what is the significance of expenditure of sinking fund? What is a sinking fund? And how can one work out the most appropriate rost ratio per unit? Thanks.
learning curve2 wrote:hi all
so if i was to move in and live in it for a month over xmas/new year (while catching up with family), do some things that need to be done ie: garden cleanup, some painting etc., get the bills in my name, change address on mail it would be enough? it would be on annual leave from my work.LC, Note point vii). in the ato link from Terry yesterday. That was why I said earlier 'moved in with good 'intention' '. Thus, you can't just move in for 1 month on your annual leave with the intention of moving back to interstate to work and still claim this house here as your principal home.
Thanks a lot, TFS. I’ll reconsider my strategy about studios. What about regional properties? They also have good cashflow. Are they any better than studios?
Hi.
strata cost – did you mean the ‘Body corporate’ cost or is it in addition to the body corporate cost.
The agent quoted the body corp fee was about 2K a year, which seems quite high in comparison to the size of the studio.
And I have a feeling that the body corp fees increase at a much faster rate than the rent.Jenny.
For someone who would interested only in positive cashflow and capital growth was not on the agenda, would studio still be a good investment? I am in Melb, the studios I’ve seen in the city here are deadly tiny, only around 17sq meter to 25 sq meter. There are larger ones of course, but the price tag is almost the same as 1-bedroom, in which case, I’d have gone for the 1-bed.
Regards,
JennyHi Derek,
Do you mind give me the countryside place where the homes are around 10sq, but only 100K each? Thanks.
Cheers.
Jenny