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- shoooshoo wrote:is the land locked in Blackwater like in Dysart, where the mining companies own the land around the town? what kind of block was this, an industrial zone?
The land surrounding the town isn't all own by the mines, there are varies cattle properties. I believe the land the new Townhouses are on were Industrial without checking, they are on the site of an old Mechanics workshop (now pulled down)
shoooshoo wrote:hmmm…. I'm starting to consider Blackwater again, will have to be something new, don't want the headache, and since I'm from Melbourne, will probably never see the property. I believe Coalstar is right, if the yields are strong, and continue to be strong, so the price will follow. what are you guys thoughts on these units: http://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-blackwater-107180361 also do you have to worry about the town getting flooded?Ray White has them going for $515000, at $1200 a week rent, I'm sure i saw them for less. Their 2 streets back from the main highway, in relation too the highway their Nth behind the Caltex servo which is up for sale for around $1.1 mill I think and Red Rooster, McDonalds is being constructed now behind Red Rooster, a few streets away (walking distance) is the newly refurbished XXXX pub (the old swinging arms) with the Workers club across the road from that. The returns appear to be massive at 12 % plus (says Ray White) at the $1200 a week. Blackwater hasn't flooded in the 43 years I've been here, we get land locked thou, Nth, Sth, East & West.
shoooshoo wrote:JaSin66 wrote:I bought in Blackwater in the early days, I was (still) employed with Utah now BMA, I bought the company house for $8000 which seemed somewhat ludicrous back then because everyone was renting off the company for $15 a week, I received my $7000 First Home Buyers Grant, sold it many years later for $220,000, $20,000 under market value (sold it to family member), that style of house is now selling for $300-$400,000 depending on upgrades/makeovers etc, I bought another house 4 years ago for $385,000 that had been extensively reno'ed (a bargain) it's now valued at $430-$450,000. I'm looking at 2 other properties here, 1st returns 10.1% gross,….2nd 10.4%i read on the forum that someone in blackwater was trying to sell their property for 12months and couldn't sell it.??
I would love to know the address, it's probably still all original or an original with the new kitchens & bathrooms BHP did years ago & a silly price attached or LEASE HOLD LAND that people are avoiding. I had seen a few empties & some were nothing short of disgraceful inside (not cleaned, peeling paint, dirty carpet, cockroach crap etc) and out (dead lawn of prickles, overgrown weed infested gardens etc) , but if your prepared to Reno a little and pretty up the yard they will sell ok I think, …. But I think renting them is the go … rentals are snapped up in a day! 1 in my very street had $950 a week (2-3 weeks ago) that had come up that day, it was gone the next. Workers from out of town are looking for rentals (in a share style, 1 room each) so they don't have to travel home to Emerald every shift, there like the golden egg – hard too find.
I bought in Blackwater in the early days, I was (still) employed with Utah now BMA, I bought the company house for $8000 which seemed somewhat ludicrous back then because everyone was renting off the company for $15 a week, I received my $7000 First Home Buyers Grant, sold it many years later for $220,000, $20,000 under market value (sold it to family member), that style of house is now selling for $300-$400,000 depending on upgrades/makeovers etc, I bought another house 4 years ago for $385,000 that had been extensively reno’ed (a bargain) it’s now valued at $430-$450,000. I’m looking at 2 other properties here, 1st returns 10.1% gross,….2nd 10.4%
coalstar wrote:blackwaterI agree (43 year resident)
hbbehrendorff wrote:I live in Emerald and I work in blackwater sometimes and know the area well.I know people who live in blackwater that have been trying to sell there house for years, it seems to be a place that is a little difficult to liquidate.
You should generally find that the returns will be better in blackwater then they are in emerald, Though IMO I would not invest in blackwater because its to risky.
Have you been to blackwater ? its a hole, no one would live there for the atmosphere, there are few shops, the pubs are drives, the pizza place makes some of the worst pizza in australia and its just a red rocked dessert dive with crappy old houses.
I know the guy who owns one of the service stations there and he is closing it because he has not been able to get any employees for over 5 years !!!
Basically everyone in the town works in the mines or in some way that directly gives services to the mine.
Now, you don't need the mine to close, you just need coal demand to soften or the price to fall a bit and jobs will be lost and vacancy's will over night be very high.
I know many people personally who work in the mines and they all would prefer to live in Emerald, even though there is a 76km drive.
Emerald is a regional hub and has more then just mining going for it, There is massive industry in emerald, agriculture and the town is much much nicer, There is a huge big shopping centre being built here right now that will have stores such as harvey norman a new big wollies, ect
The newly renovated Irish pub is really nice too, they spent 3.8mill on the renno and imo its one of the best pub/clubs in qld, it rivals places down at the coast.
Lake Maraboon is the second largest lake in Qld, apparently the largest man made lake in australia and bigger then sydney harbour
As a resident of Blackwater for 43years I will comment too.
There are houses in Blackwater that have been for sale for some time, there usually run down and in need of a spruce up to say the least, the nice houses sell ok, most of these houses are 40 years old to start with. The question was one of Investing and not lifestyle, as an investment there are houses at 8% plus gross returns (I have today placed a contract on 2 properties, 1st returns 10.1% gross 2nd 10.4% gross with rent reviews due at end of lease in December with rent increases easily obtainable. Blackwater is… dare I say a hole… but if your living there then it’s what you make of it, granted we have lost a lot over the years, small business, drive-in, skate rink, bmx track, velodrome, bowling alley etc etc. But the returns are still here and so will the mines for the next 50+ years. The pubs can do with a make over, the old xxxx is in the process now with big money being spent, the Workers club has been made over too,… I think Mamma Rosa’s pizza is one of the best pizzas going, would prefer it over EagleBoys, the pool has had major money spent on it, we have Subway in the Coal Centre now which has a movie theater inside, Macca’s is being built now behind Red Rooster, a car-wash was added a few years ago too,many Townhouses are being built, Currugh Mine is building townhouses too, land is scarce, rentals are nil and demand is astronomical, there is a swing towards family’s renting out rooms (i do this) for $200-$350 a week, some investors have 3-4 bedroom houses rented in this fashion eg $250 a room times 3 bedrooms on a $300-$400,000 property, mining employees get rent subsidized by their employer because these rents are in the tune of $800-$1200 a week, some beds are hot-seated so to speak to accommodate the demand for rentals, eg 1 bed shared between 2 blokes, 1 doing day-shift the other doing night-shifts. The guy whose selling his servo is commonly known around town as arrogant & rude & staff are treated poorly (this is just what I hear, I have no dramas with him or his wife). I agree with you your points on Emerald, it’s a lovely place, but my money is on Blackwater for returns on investment, Dysart & Moranbah have the big returns but high prices too.I’m pretty sure we paid extra to make that a feature of our home loan with ANZ, it was so our repayments would never be missed if the account was low thus keeping a good payment rating, if we do go over we are however charged $6 a day in overdrawn fees. Maybe it’s a case of you refinancing with someone with this available feature. I am however not sure what the overdrawn limit is.
You already own it, so seeing as you are a couple it would be like buying the property twice.
Why wouldn’t you just use the equity you have in your property to invest in another.
There’s no point in having 2 mortgages, 2 stamp duties, 2 solicitor bills etc etc……………..
Keep your apartment,…Use your Equity to buy the house in both names, Rent it out (investment property), with rent and your dual income you will pay it down 3 times as fast.