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    Is that $250,000 place that price now, or when you have the deposit in 3 years time? Is that $100 dollars a week after taking the rent into consideration, as the loan repayments would be around 350 per week I think. How many years are you waiting to see the property appreciate to $360,000? How old are you at the moment?

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    Just thought I would add my two cents.
    A lot of those cheaper apartments are for investors only….ie you can buy it but can’t live in it. If you are needing to live in the place then these are no good for you.

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    Good question.
    There is a kids day in Japan. It is coming up soon on the 5th of May. Maybe kids should campaign for one in Aus!

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    427 for me. This is tough…

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    98 for me, and a 10 penguin score of 647.1

    On about my 647th try though…..

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    As you are putting the balls on the scale, you put one on the left side, one on the right side. Then you have an expected pattern. Left goes down, back to level, left goes down, back to level. If you get something different to this pattern, i.e. left goes down, stays down, you can narrow the ball down to two balls…compare these balls to one of the normal balls and you can find out if it is heavier or lighter.

    Close? or do I have to put the balls on at the same time?

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    Here is the calculation for monthly repayments as from the westpac calculator from realestate.com.au:

    =(B2*(1+B3/1200)^(B4*12)*B3/1200)/((1+B3/1200)^(B4*12)-1)

    B2 is the pricipal amount (eg $100000)
    B3 is the interest rate (eg 6.5)
    B4 is the loan term (eg 30 years)

    To get the fortnightly repayments as from the westpac calculator use:

    =(B2*(1+B3/2400)^(B4*24)*B3/2400)/((1+B3/2400)^(B4*24)-1)

    I think this is wrong. 2400 should be 2600 and 24 should be 26. They use two fortnights to a month. They don`t count the extra fortnights. Similar for weeks. They use 48 weeks in a year, not 52.
    Strange. Weekly is:

    =(B2*(1+B3/4800)^(B4*48)*B3/4800)/((1+B3/4800)^(B4*48)-1)

    Put those into your spreadsheet and you will get the same as the westpac calculator.

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    Thanks Jason.

    As I am working in Japan, I don`t actually pay anything off my HECS at the moment. It just keeps getting bigger. Nice to hear that no one seems to care about the HECS debt, as it is the only debt I have.

    Scott

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    Howdy.

    Sounds interesting Terry. As I can see myself coming back to Japan frequently, seems like a good idea to invest over here. International portfolio…nice ring to it.

    Scott

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    Hey David.

    Just suggesting the idea about the company for when you start work over here. Been looking at a few apartments in Nagoya, looking for extra costs. From what I have seen, body corp and sinking funds(or Japanese equivalent) can range between 10000 to 20000 yen per month (combined). That was in the city, and larger places had higher rates. Didn`t see much info about rates though. Keep looking I guess!

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    Hey David,

    Centre of Kobe for under 5mil, sounds really good. I think that with the building being so old, one of the biggest things to consider is earthquake resistance. I recall hearing something about builders changing to a better structure around 10 years ago or so. I have only been looking at places 10 years or younger.

    You are right about getting a team together over here. I can forsee lots of difficulty being a foreigner, but I am sure there must be some advantages. I am getting a few ideas, but so much to consider. I would love to hear what your mate in NZ went through re the buying process over here.

    As for when the you go home, maybe you can refinance with an Australian bank, pay out the Japanese bank…if you can get a loan here. I think that if you have owned the place for a few years here, maybe Aus banks would do this.

    As for getting finance, I have read a few people get a loan from their company if they get turned down by the banks. Just a thought if you look into it more, but finance is a problem. I actually had a 0% loan from my company when I came over to help me set up. Cant ask for better finance than that!

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    Hey David,

    Yes, I would invest over here if I were staying in the country another few years. A little more research into hidden costs would be a deciding factor though. Assuming you are investing for cash flow and not capital gains, I think Japan would be a good place. Another member on the forum has put offers on places from Japan, see the post `HECS debt`.

    I agree that the exports are the biggest factor in Japans growth, and they look a bit under threat with the strengthening yen, so the situation is not as rosy as it sounds. But if you do your homework, and invest wisely, I think that you could ride out any downturn.

    Had a quick look at some home loans here on the net. None of the banks mind you. The cheapest I saw was 2%, maximum limit of 50 million yen. Not too sure about the fine print yet.

    What are your thoughts about Japan v Aus at the moment? Thought much about investing in Japan?

    Scott

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    Hey Hungry,

    Very impressed that you did it all from Japan. I am not ready personally to purchase yet, I am still developing my plan, researching etc. A lot of things to think about…but exciting also.

    I have pretty much decided on a level I would like to keep my HECS debt at, so once I acheive that, I will slowly pay it through the tax system, and use most of my money for investment.

    I was also very keen to purchase my own home when I went back to Australia, but feel I may rent for awhile at least, until I settle into a job, etc in Aus.

    Huey, if your daughter wants to work in Japan teaching English, she would have no trouble getting a job. The school year over here starts in April, so the best time to come over is in March, but it is a lot easier if you get the job in Australia first, get all the working visa, accomodation etc lined up. It is expensive to set up over here, but once you are working and have the budget sorted, it is pretty easy to save money. If you want any info let me know.

    Scott

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    Hey Guys,

    From what I hear talking to people, if you have the money it is easy to buy here, and if you don`t you can`t borrow here, so tough. As for the prices of properties here, I have only just started looking at them. Was dead keen to invest in Aus, but with the price rises there decided to have a look around here.

    I live in Nagoya, which is a few hours east of Osaka, about 6 hours west of Tokyo. Third or fourth largest city in Japan. Excellent transportation system here, so you can live a bit out of town and not worry too much. Prices for houses are kind of expensive in the city, but if you go out a bit, price drops off. Apartments are pretty reasonable I feel.

    A lot of new development as the Japanese economy shows signs of picking up. They are also building a new international airport here, due for completion in 2005, when Aichi (prefecture that Nagoya is in) will hold some kind of Expo.

    Property prices declined this year for the 12th year in a row, but indications are that it has just about bottomed out. I just wonder about the other costs such as city tax, land tax, water, etc. Plenty of opportunities for a smart investor I feel. Now I just have to become a smart investor. Ideally I would like to invest in Japan and Australia.

    As for the trip Terry, I`ll keep you posted. Do you have much experience with Japanese banks? :)

    Scott

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    Thanks for the replys Hungry and Terry. I am in a position to pay it off now, which would mean $13000 after the discount. I feel that paying through the tax system is better for me, as that money could be spent more productively.

    Going along with inflation, not interest. Thanks for that. I thought that was the case, must be where I got the 3% figure from.

    Still doing my research and learning the best ways to approach for my situation. Will be heading back to Aus in April next year too. Been working for ECC over here for the past 2.5 years. It`s been ok. Would like to start investing as soon as possible, did you organise your deals from Japan?

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    Hey Hungry,

    Another in Japan hey, popping up everywhere. I know what you mean about the cancer growing in the background. Just from a purely financial point of view, does it make sense to pay it off?

    How long have you been over here? What part of Aus are you from?

    Scott

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    Hey David.

    I haven`t been to any banks to find out about getting a home loan. I was talking with a student today about this. He seemed to think it was very difficult for foreingers to get a loan from a Japanese bank, but that was for investing in Japan. Not sure about using the funds to purchase in Australia.

    The interest rate is great over here for borrowing money, I am trying to find good ways to take advantage of it given my situation. I will be heading back to Aus early to mid next year, so borrowing in yen is not such a good idea if I am earning Aussie dollars.

    I will keep looking into it, and let you know if I find anything good. Keep me posted if you find out more.

    How is your Japanese? Pretty good I assume if you are studying over here at uni. You said you are studying economics…why isnt your degree so well known in Aus? What kind of economics?

    Scott

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    Hey David,

    I came over here after schooling to, but that included university. I am 25, grew up near Brisbane. Moved over here to teach English after doing an engineering degree and an arts degree(economics/japanese).

    Been over here two and a half years too. Am only just getting into the research over here. Going back to Aus next year, so mostly am just reserching over here for when I go back. Haven`t looked too much into finance from Japanese banks. Some Aus banks will lend you money in yen, so maybe some Japanese banks will lend you money in A dollars. Depends where you earn you income I guess at to what you want the loan to be in.

    Are you looking to stay in Japan to work after you graduate?

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    Hey David,
    I am in Nagoya. Was wondering if anyone else was in Japan in this forum. What part of Aus you from?

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    Just to clarify, what square are you thinking outside of? From the information in this forum, I don`t see too much about `screwing people over to make a dollar`.

    I can understand your concern about other people buying up the good investment properties in your area, but maybe you should try to turn your dreams of investing into a reality. Sure it mightn`t match your ideal world, but if you want to invest, maybe you need to compromise a little.

    Sounds like that you had an opportunity to invest, but pulled out, so is investing what you really want to do? Is it really for you? Just my opinion.

    Scott

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