Something to consider is that you'll all be liable for the entire debt – despite owning a third of the property.
Another option could be to have your older siblings "gift" you the deposit – that's if they'd prefer to avoid taking on the liability of the investment loan.
If all three of you are happy to take out the loan, them consider having the loan set up in three splits so you can each have your own loan split to make repayments on.
Some people prefer to avoid mixing business with family – others don't have an issue with it.
If you're planning on going to auction, then best to get a preapproval in place.
Your loan repayments are based on the actual loan amount – not the value of the property.
In theory, if the bank believed your property was worth more less than the loan amount, then they'd want you to pay down some of the loan to bring the LVR within their required threshold. In reality, I don't know of it happening.
I'm not an accountant and would always recommend seeking professional assistance on such matters.
1 – Yep, should be fine. Offset accounts are treated different to "redrawing" money from the loan. Same applies if you have $50k in the offset (the amount doesn't matter).
2 – Most of my clients have an offset set up against their PPOR loan. It can be used for storing savings, personal expenses, etc.
3- Depends on your risk profile and goals. If you want to adopt an aggressive approach then using smaller deposits and higher LVR loans might be a good option. If you're risk adverse and not wanting to be overly aggressive in your approach – then a larger deposit and lower LVR would probably be more suitable.
The property should be in the same condition at settlement as it was when you signed the contract.
Just let the potential tenants know that the lawns will be tidied up prior to their lease commencing. Not sure if you can get the current owners to sort it out prior to settlement – and it's nice that they're allowing you to show people the property before settlement.
Fixing is good if you need to know what your monthly repayments will be each month – so for budgeting purposes it can be helpful.
In general, fixed rate loans aren't very flexible and not many of them allow for an offset to be linked. We can get around this by keeping a portion of the loan variable.
All in all, I wouldn't fix in an attempt to "beat" the variable rate. I would fix if you need some certainty in your repayments.
The break costs on fixed rate loans are usually quite high as well – so you'll need to be sure that you won't be closing down the loan during the fixed rate period.
I didn't pay LMI on my apartment. My folks were nice and setup a loan on their own house to help out. But that has all been closed now so I can't access it again.
How does the 80k loan work? Would that go through bankwest if i stay with them to get that loan against the apartment? (separately).
We can def chip in some cash and save over the next 6-12 months. I just got a new job and am doing OK.
Thank you again
Joel
No worries.
You can either access that equity with BWA – just make sure it's set up as a separate loan, that's very important.
You could also refi to another lender if BWA are causing you headaches.
Given that you didn't pay LMI on this loan – an external refi shouldn't cost too much, but I'd probably have a crack at doing it with BWA firstly.
The IO for the first loan (the IP loan) is important because this loan is deductible – therefore, you want to avoid paying down any of the principle on this loan as you'll have a non-deductible PPOR debt. If you were to pay any loan down first – it should be your PPOR loan.
Thanks everyone for giving me advises! I love this forum Ok from what i gathered i should consult with an lawyer or accountant regards to setting up trust. Any recommendations??
You could keep things simple and simply access equity in your current property which will be used to cover the deposit/costs on your next property.
If your property was valued at $360k, you could take your current borrowings up to 90% of the properties value which will give you around $80k to play with.
This $80k would need to be set up as a separate loan so you don't contaminate your deductible IP debt with your non-deductible PPOR debt (the equity release).
Did you pay LMI on this loan previously? If so, I wouldn't rush to refinance as you'll be required to pay a new LMI premium with a new lender if you access equity above 80% of the properties value. If you've already paid LMI with your current lender, then the equity release above 80% would simply be a top-up on the existing premium which is a cheaper option.
However, $80k isn't going to buy you an $800k PPOR in VIC – you're going to need to chip in some of your own funds as well.
It's with CBA. Personally I like to keep property account separately but if it's going to affect my credit profile. This is not a good way.
You'd need to submit a new app to split out the LOC. I don't think it's worth the time/effort and the credit file hit. It shouldn't be too hard to apportion the interest applicable to each property. It's important that you only use this LOC for investment related purposes.
If the LOC has been used exclusively for IP purposes then I wouldn't bother splitting. It will involve a new application – so an unnecessary hit to your credit file.
Why don't you mention interest rates % to ANZ…some examples…pick one:
CBA/BoM are doing around 5.5% on their packages with an annual fee and $700 switching credit
Loans.com.au is 5.24%
UBank is 5.12%
Also if you walk into a branch – no need to "apply" for their loans as others have rightly said that it will affect your credit file – just ask what their offer is…
Use other big 4 rates as a comparison when negotiating – I wouldn't use online no frill lenders.
Please give some enlightenment about property refinance as I am still trying to understand how it works. Assuming an investor signs a contract with the seller at a certain purchase price, allowed to have renovation done on the property, got it refinanced with the bank before settlement, and after that settled the property with higher valuation which mean more equity could be withdrawn for investing in next property.
Hi there
Not possible.
You won't have a loan on the property until it settles. Therefore, if you're wanting to access equity from the property – you need to wait until after settlement to have it revalued and if it's gone up, extract equity.
Yep, give them a buzz and tell them that you're refinancing – you just want to give them the opportunity to match first. Don't bother with going into a branch – they're not too interested in making sure you have the lowest rate.
Are you increasing your borrowings with them or just after a rate deduction?
If the latter, tell them that your broker is suggesting you refi to x lender at x interest rate but wanted to give them the opportunity to match before you jump ship. This won't result in a hit to your file.