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- brmiau wrote:
Jamie, so does that mean if I purchased an IP for $350k my loan would be the purchase price minus my available equity? Therefor the loan would be $267k for the IP?
The equity that you access will be spread over the deposit and costs on the IP.
So let's assume that the costs associated with the purchase are 5% of the purchase price – so you allocate $17.5k to purchase costs (such as stamp duty, legal fees). That leaves you with about $65k to cover the deposit meaning a loan of $285k would be required for the IP loan.
I can't comment on your borrowing capacity without knowing the finer details of your situation.
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Hi mizfits
Look closely at your own affordability too. Just because a bank will lend $x amount it doesn't necessarily mean that you can personally afford it.
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Sydney is hot at the moment – especially out west.
Personally, I've only seen a few valuations come back low this month – two were refinances where the owner thought their properties were worth more than they were valued at, the other was an OTP property.
I haven't had any valuations come in lower than purchase price for normal established dwellings in the last three months or so – it's quite rare.
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Hi Mizfitz
I've got a lot of clients on low incomes who still manage to invest in property – quite a few are from this forum.
It comes down to using the right lenders and correct structuring – the yields on the properties you're purchasing will also come into play.
Best to get a decent broker to crunch the numbers for you.
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Hi Graham
I think this might be the domain of Darryl Richards who's a regular on this forum is based up your way – https://www.propertyinvesting.com/user/rpi
He might be able to provide some advice.
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Hi Brad
There's usable equity and actual equity.
Your actual equity is $167k – which is simply the value of your property minus the loan amount.
The useable equity is what the bank will let you access.
Most banks will allow you to take your loan up to 80% of the properties value.
In this instance, you'd be able to access $83k which would be used to cover the deposit/costs on your purchase.
Some banks will allow you access equity up to 90% of the properties value – which means you can access more but some LMI would payable.
Make sure you set up the equity loan as a separate loan account and keep both your PPOR and IP loans uncrossed (banks love to cross collaterise – and many clueless brokers do too).
Hope that helps.
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xfitzyx wrote:Great that makes sense. I think at this stage that money in the IP won't be used to buy the PPOR. Going forward once I have both I just need to figure out whether to pay down the PPOR, or pay down the IP as a preference. From what I've read, paying down the PPOR makes sense as it's not the investment asset?Yes – if you're going to pay down any debt than non deductible should be the first to go.
If you suspect that your next PPOR may one day become an IP (like what you're doing now) than best to set this up properly from the start as well.
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Hi Adam
You can only claim the original loan amount against the IP – not an increased amount from the refinance.
Ideally, it should be set something like this.
PPOR (now IP)
Loan 1: Original loan (now tax deductible and ideally interest only)
Loan 2: Equity release for new PPOR deposit/cost (not deductible)
New PPOR
Loan 1: Remaining balance to cover new PPOR once the deposit from loan 2 above is taken into account.
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Refinancing costs should be deductible for an IP loan.
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Agree with Catalyst – they're going to have to wear it.
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Hi Nicky
No need to have an offset linked to each loan – you only need to be offsetting one loan. You'd only need two if you managed to offset an entire loan – and had surplus cash to place elsewhere.
If you're planning on owning a PPOR at some point than best to preserve your current IP debt and utlise the offset against an interest only loan instead of paying down the principle.
You don't want to spend the next 6 years paying down a large chunk of deductible IP debt and then take on a non-deductible PPOR debt.
I'm not saying you shouldn't make an effort to make extra repayments – just make them into an offset account rather than into the loan itself. That way, when you do buy a PPOR, you can move those funds from your offset account onto your new PPOR loan – which effectively boosts your deductible debt whilst lowering your non-deductible debt.
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Hi Nicky
Are you planning on purchasing a PPOR at some point?
If so, I'd preserve the principle on each IP loan instead of paying it down.
Like Richard said, link an offset account against one and make all of your extra repayments into the offset instead.
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I doubt it – otherwise PMs in that state are going to be busy signing up tenants to the new format. Chances are it comes into effect when new leases are issued. In any case, best to suss out with the relevant authority in your state.
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Hi Woody
If you have any doubts with the structure – best to get a pro like Richard on board.
Sounds like your current broker isn't crossing though so that's always a good thing.
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Thanks Shahin and Richard – appreciate the comments.
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Qlds007 wrote:Wow makes the 90 minutes i spent with a forum client this morning for the price of a cup of coffee look like an absolute bargain.lol – tell me about it! 90 minutes is worth at least two lattes though.
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What's the actual product?
Don't just focus on rate – doing so can be costly in the long run.
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Has he sought advice from a solicitor?
What state is it in?
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trickeymickey wrote:Jamie I have a question for you…. For #3, would you suggest the same principle or perhaps try to release equity from #1 and 2, (since they are financed with the same lender), rather than a PPOR equity loan?It depends.
I'd look at accessing equity in whichever property has the lower LVR so as to mitigate any LMI expenses. It also comes down to who the lenders are and what their policies are like.
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The Dark Knight wrote:I've never done it or had it requested. You would definetly think it would be a PM's first job though.Same.
It's never been raised by any tenants.
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