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  • Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    They recently increased the amount of supporting docs required for loan applications too. They're already one of the fussiest lenders when it comes to supporting document requirements – not they're wanting to look at the borrowers transaction accounts too. The scanner gets a good workout everytime a CBA application is submitted!

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    LVR's play a part here too. If there's LMI involved (which it doesn't  like from the OP's post) then lender selection becomes even more important -as you don't want to reach exposure limits with either LMI provider too early.

    All in all, it's possible – but as mentioned above, don't focus on the quantity of properties -the quality of the investment is more important. 

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    Qlds007 wrote:

    I am currently untangling the mess made by lenders / brokers for 3/4 other forum members and is always a matter of trying to get it right from day 1.

    Story of my life. At least their incompetence keeps us nice and busy :-)

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    Hi Jude 

    Welcome aboard :-)

    I like your profile pic!

    The $170k (if you were wanting to access that much) would be used to cover the deposit/costs on subsequent IP purchases. You'd then take out another loan for the remaining balance of each IP. So it would like like this (assuming you're purchasing a couple of IPs for illustrative purposes):

    PPOR (your current home)

    Current loan: $150k

    Equity release: $170k (to cover 20% deposits and costs on each IP purchase)

    IP 1

    Loan for 80% of the properties value (20% deposit/costs coming from equity release against PPOR)

    IP 2

    Loan for 80% of the properties value (20% deposit/costs coming from equity release against PPOR)

    Now – with that $170k equity release, if it's set up properly you can have it sitting dormant with no repayments payable until you actually start using those funds (ie. when you find an IP to purchase) – and even then, you'd only have to pay interest on the portion of the equity release that you use (you might not spend it all up at once).

    The first thing to do is talk with a decent finance person about your longer term plans – they'll then run scenarios and advise on the correct loan structure. At this point – depending on the lender that you're currently with, they may also be able to order a free valuation on your property so you can find out exactly how much equity you can access.

    Hope that helps.

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    It's hard to believe it's taken them this long to release a transactional offset. Hopefully there's not too many hiccups once it's rolled out.

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    Where are you based?

    Joe on this forum does kitchens and is in Melb – he might be able to assist.

    I was speaking with him about kitchens the other day and he sure knows his stuff.

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    Hi Matt

    The scope for generating a high income is greater with being a real estate agent over a property manager (unless you owned the property management company). Both jobs require different sets of skills – with REA's relying strongly on sales and networking.

    p.s – you don't have to work in real estate to invest in it. 

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    Hi Darryl

    Welcome aboard. 

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    headspin wrote:
    Lesson learnt:  Never pay down a loan, and always use an offset account.  Even for your PPOR, as some day your PPOR might become an investment property and youll wish you hadnt paid it off…

    Correct! That's the reason why a decent finance person will always ask about your longer term plans and will structure your finances with that in mind – rather than just focusing on the immediate transaction.

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    Hi and welcome aboard.

    A) Yep it's possible

    B) The equity release for IP 2 would be deductible. Is that what you mean?

    You don't really turn the loan back to an LVR of 80% – you're increasing your borrowings against that IP to purchase another IP – therefore bringing the loan back up to 80%.

    All sounds ok to me. Just avoid cross collaterising your properties.

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    Terryw wrote:
    That is great. It is like the difference between eating mcdonalds and fine dning!

    I love the analogy :-)

    It also goes to show that it's easy enough to deal with professionals from a distance. I was able to get it done from my office in Canberra while Mola is in Syd – and Joe who mentioned me is in Vic.

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    Most banks will assume that the costs are around the 20% – 30% mark when assessing your borrowing capacity. 

    As Scott said though – it can vary quite a bit between properties and their locations. Using a property manager or self managing will also play a part.

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    Hi Rod

    Received your PM and responded.

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    Roxy lacey wrote:
    thanks Jamie, i am now convinced i need to obtain a separate loan for each. i am so glad i asked the question and not just accepted what the broker has advised! roxy

    No worries Roxy. I think you'd be best off getting a second opinion on your current loan structure. You might be able to set it up better – which in turn will likely save you some money.

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    Roxy lacey wrote:
    hi everyone, i am new to property investment, my husband and i have purchased 2 investment properties. our finance broker is suggesting we arrange one investment loan secured by the 2 properties, i am not sure about this, doesnt this fall under the term "cross collateralization" would i be better off arranging an independant loan for each property? Any advice will be welcome.thanks Roxy

    Hiya Roxy

    Welcome aboard.

    Time to get a new broker – this one isn't up to speed with correct finance structuring and this could cost you big down the track.

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    Ozman wrote:
    Your best option is going direct to lenders and try to negotiate a lower borrowing rate based you are not using a broker. you will need to have your planning and figures in order and laid out and being a long term client with good history will help your case

    Good luck with that. Watch your credit file get fried and your loan declined too.

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    Hi Bertie

    Without sounding arrogant – I doubt you'll find a high performing broker that will rebate part of their commission. 

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    Hi there

    Nothing can replace experience in the world of property investing IMO. 

    There's also a lot of free info out there – including forums like this one.

    Personally  – I wouldn't bother. If I had my time over again – I'm not sure if I would have spent 4 years getting my degrees….and those degrees have nothing to do with the world of property.

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    Hi there

    There's usually a notice period that needs to be issued.

    Ask them for clarification on any points that you don't understand. If they can't help – then perhaps seek legal advice. However, you'll need to weigh up the cost of that advice in relation to the potential fees applicable to this circumstance.

    All in all – it's usually just a notice period that needs to be issued. Your new PM might have upfront costs though.

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    Hi there

    Welcome aboard.

    You can't do that in order to boost deductible debt and lower non deductible debt.

    There's a "purpose test" that is applied to loans to determine whether it's deductible or not – if the purpose is investment related it's deductible, if it's not investment related it isn't. The purpose here is to pay down your PPOR debt – therefore the increased borrowings against your IP won't be deductible.

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