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    Terryw wrote:
    Just get a LOC on one of the existing properties and use this as deposit and borrow the rest from another bank. Best to use none of your cash

    Agree with Terry. I'd also be placing that $25k in an offset attached to your PPOR loan.

    How much is your IP worth? Depending on it's current value I'd be inclined to do the top-up on it and leave the PPOR unencumbered.

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    DWolfe wrote:
    Ouch!

    C-R-E-A-T-I-V-E investing people….

    If someone is happy to lend based on that then go with it. Good on you Jamie for having a crack, people need to make their own decisions and take responsibility for their own investing.

    Sigh, I'm too boring to be published LOL!

    D

    Cheers D :) My investing will be a bit boring for the next few years – just about to exchange on my last IP for a while.

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    orks wrote:
    What the hell kind of financial institution lets you use a line of credit as a deposit?

    It concerns me that someone who structures their own finances like that is out there arranging loans for people.

    Pretty standard structure really. Take out a LOC or a seperate IO loan against a PPOR to be used as a deposit towards an investment property. Nice first post Orks…..or are you somebody else?

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    steve-invest wrote:
    Does anybody know where I can find an updated and accurate property cycle indicator or property clock? That would be handy information. Or can anyone send me current property cycle info? Anywhere I can subscribe for this info?

    Check out the Herron Todd White Month in Review – http://www.htw.com.au/Month_in_Review/November-2010-Month-In-Review.pdf

    Cheers

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    ING is only 6.96% if borrowing more than $300k.

    You could give Adelaide Bank a go – your broker might be able to get you 6.94% and their serviceability is pretty good.

    Choicelend and Homeside (depsite being NAB money) are both still pretty competitive.

    If you do stick with CBA, it will be worth while forking out the $350 p.a for the MAV package – sounds like your not getting the discounted rate at present.

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    god_of_money wrote:

    Terryw, congrat for posting >10,000 posts

    Wow, that is quite a lot! Always valuable too. Cheers Terry, here's to another 10,000!

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    Terryw wrote:
    Bloody hell! what sort of advice is that???

    Firstly you will be up for LMI again. It may be aroound 3% of the loan amount. Then you have loan exit fees and govt charges.

    Took the words out of my mouth.

    Terryw wrote:
    Secondly why use cash to purchase an investment property when you have personal debt. You are just throwing money away if you do so.

    Was thinking the same – unless the equity isn't enough to cover the deposit and completion costs.

    Terryw wrote:
    And why would you want to use a LOC as the main loan for the new IP?

    That's baffled me also – you'll generally pay a premium for a LOC in terms of a higher interest rate. An IO loan will do the same trick…but will be cheaper :)

    Terryw wrote:
    Your broker doesnt know what he is talking about and is probably aiming to boost his commission. He is not invovled in the sale too is he?

    Sounds like it.[/quote]

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    Hi Surrealist

    As a fellow CBA customer, I'm feeling your pain!

    There's certaintly more competitive offerings to what the big 4 are offering at present. 

    As Marty touched on, ING are quite good at the moment but it seems that this option has already been ruled out. Adelaide Bank can be good as well (particularly with their serviceability).

    It's hard to comment on what you could reasonably achieve without knowing the numbers on your situation.

    Cheers

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    Hi WW

    Good to see you on propertyinvesting.com – looking forward to your contributions.

    All the best

    Jamie

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    Hi Dave

    If you do a search you should be able to find a fair bit of info. I think it was recently asked.

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    keren_mx5 wrote:
    Getting 100 percent offset but still can't see why IO is beneficial. Isn't better to pay off as much and as soon? 

    Hi Keren

    Yep, it's good to pay it down quickly. You can do this with your offset account. Basically, the money in your offset account will reduce the amount of interest you pay in your loan. If you have a $500k loan and $100k in your offset, your effectively only paying interest on $400k.

    If this place is going to be an IP in the future, it's important to structure it right from the start. There is no point paying down the principle on an investment loan (particularly if your planning on having a PPOR in the future). From the example above, when you do convert this into an IP, you can take that $100k from the offset, use it as a deposit on your PPOR and leave the large $500k deductable debt on your IP. Hope that makes sense :)

    Jamie

    Cheers

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    Suss out the anticipated body corporate fees as well – they can be sky high in that area.

    For what it's worth, I think SE QLD will do well over the next year or two. If anything, it hasn't experienced the dramatic rises in recent times like Sydney, Melb and Canberra have. I still like Logan – relatively cheap buy in, decent yields…..interesting tenants.

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    EPI_Den wrote:
    Also have a look at the magazine stands for property magazines, especially those with heaps of tables at the back.

     Oh yeah, check out this months Your Investment Property mag – my wife and I (and our fur child pug) are in it.

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    akuma wrote:
    The agent told me that they are building a Grammar school near buy, and a big shopping complex. How do i confirm this?

    You could try and get in touch with the council. Is there a website?

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    Could be too late – it's been labled as a hot-spot for a while now. Prices may have already jumped…..

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    Pete Tersteeg from Sage Lending. He was my broker before I became a broker. Deals mostly with investors.

    He doesn't post on this forum – he posts on http://www.somersoft.com under PT Bear.

    Cheers

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    Hi Christine

    Welcome to the forum – you'll find a heap of useful info and plenty of friendly people willing to offer a hand.

    I'd start by educating yourself (which you've already started). Read, read, read is the advice I give my new investor clients. Go and rent out every property investing book at your local library. Get a feel for the differen't strategies, the pros and cons of each, ect. Lomas, Yardney, McKnight, Somers all have great books worth reading.

    The more knowledge you have, the better informed your decsions will be when it comes to investing.

    All the best.

    Jamie

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    Hi Dellas,

    Welcome to the forum :)

    Congrats on saving $85k – you must be a very disciplined saver.

    Where are you looking to purchase? If you're in an area that's experiencing rising property prices then it might be best to get into the market now rather than later (because property prices may increase at a faster rate than your savings).

    It's hard to comment on what you can reasonably accomplish in terms of purchasing a property without further information. However, that $85k savings makes for a decent deposit.

    Cheers

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    We (wife and I) found ourselves constantly managing the property managers. Reminding them of overdue rent, inspections that were never carried out, etc. We find it much easier self managing. Granted, we haven't had any nightmare tenants yet (touch wood).

    I think I have just had bad experiences with the few PM's I've dealt with and I have no doubt that most are excellent at their jobs.

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    duckster wrote:
    4. LOAN – how does paying "interest only" for the period of PPRO helps any tax benefits etc? Is it advisable or really doesn't make a difference? I have no debt.

    Mostly this is a cash flow decision and whether you want to pay off the debt on the mortgage.

    5. OTHERS – if there are any other pointers or warnings, please do let me know.

    Landlords insurance – look into this rather than normal insurance. Are you managing it or getting a property manager ?

    All good points from duckster.

    Just to expand on a couple of things.

    4. Loan – Might be an idea to set the loan up as IO with an offset attached. This will give you flexibility in the future.

    5. Insurance – if you're self managing, you'll need to ensure that the landlord insurance policy you take out allows self-managing.

    Cheers

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