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  • Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    I agree with your understanding re high capital growth/low yield and vice versa. However, there’s often exceptions to this rule with decent yield and decent growth being achievable in certain areas.

    Like I said before, there’s no wrongs or right and if you ask for an opinion your bound to get a number of different points of view.

    I think what’s important is that you do something.

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    zgnilek wrote:
    Jamie M – you state that 4%+ is low yield on rental.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought 4%+ rental yield is reasonable for a property that is expected to appreciate consistantly at 8-11% pa.  Please explain.

    There is no right or wrong – different strokes for different folks. To me, I’d consider a 4% yield low. Something yielding 4% is likely to cost me a fair bit to hold onto – I’d prefer something a little higher.

    You can play around with this spreadsheet to work out how much it will cost you to hold per week – http://www.passgo.com.au/pass-go-investment-property-analysis-tool

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    Yep, thanks Ten_Burner. I’ve been looking for that site for ages – I stumbled across it a few months back but couldn’t remember the sites name.

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    Hi Zgnilek

    If you do a search on trusts you’ll find a whole heap of information.

    I’d also seek expert advice on the matter from an IP savy accountant.

    For what it’s worth, a low yielding IP purchased on a 90% lend is going to be negatively geared by quite a bit. Probably not the ideal property to be placing in a trust….but that’s just my opinion.

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    Even on $500k + it’s still a pretty good deal (from an interest rate perspective anyway).

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    An interest only loan isn’t classed as a business loan. Nor is an interest only loan which is securing an investment property.

    In any case, you could be getting a lot worse than 6.92% – that’s a pretty good deal.

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    I would have thought that vacant possession would be better than occupied.

    My assumption would be that a tenanted property would be a bigger deterrent to an owner occupier than a non-tenanted property would be to an investor (if that makes sense!)

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    Hi Matt

    If your circumstances haven’t changed since your last loan (in which your parents went guarantor) then what’s going to be different when applying for IP2?

    For that reason, I can’t see how you could break away from your current loan to one that doesn’t involve your parents as guarantor.

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    We have a few listed here – http://www.passgo.com.au/property-data-websites

    It will be updated with more shortly.

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    1. Yep, pretty much.

    2. No, you’d have to live in it for at least 6 months within the first year.

    3. I’d just use the book as a guide. Embrace the parts that you feel are useful.

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    Hi David

    Welcome to the forum.

    Yep, I’ve used these type of schedules for older IPs. More specifically, I used the corpred silver package. I have no complaints.

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    Yep, that’s quite a hike from Adelaide.

    Check out this recent thread – North Adelaide was mentioned by Anthony (SA is his stomping ground) – https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/creative-investing/4336394?highlight=playford#comment-235466

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    anhie wrote:
    hi

    i am so thankful i stumble on this forum, as a potential property owner i learnt alot of  what to do and don't do.
    any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    i'm looking to buy my first property. i have about 70-75k saved up.
    i like to know whats my best course of action. To either buy as ppor to ip or ip.
    i won't be living there only i need to claim fhog.
    what i understand so far
    get home loan with interest only repayments with offset account
    put any extra money onto offset account (reduce interest payable and to fund new investment/project in the future)
    as ip home i won't be eligible for fhog? but use ip to reduce my taxable income. neg gear

    therefore should i buy as ppor, claim fhog than turn to ip later or just go ip. i understand i will need to live there at least 6 months to get fhog.
    i wrote this down somewhere but don't understand CGT exempt main residence exemption for up to 6 years
    i understand if the property use as ip when i sell i am liable for cgt
    again any help would be most helpful

    anh

    Hi Anh

    Welcome to the forum.

    It looks like you’ve answered your own questions :)

    As you’ve alluded to – if you do decide to live in this property and then turn it into an IP later, you would be best off taking out an interest only loan with offset.

    I’m not sure if you’ve put much thought into your first property but if you can find something that you can add value to (especially with simple, cosmetic renos) then you’re onto a winner. I strongly believe that these properties are ideal when starting out. Instead of waiting for the property to go up in value (so you can buy the next) you can add value to it (and purchase the next property sooner).

    Best of luck

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    Hi Joanna

    Welcome to the forum.

    You’ll probably find that investors who purchased within the area 5 to 10 years ago have experienced decent capital growth during this time (and Elizabeth, etc would have been deemed undesirable back then as well).

    There are ways to mitigate risks in these areas. A good property manager and landlord insurance should give you some peace of mind. My understanding is that some areas (within this location) are better than others – so it might be best to scope the place out in person (if possible).

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    You wouldn’t have to pay interest on the $50k if it were in the form of a Line of Credit or if it was an interest only loan transferred to an offset account.

    That said – I agree that a $50k buffer does sound like a rather large contingency.

    Best way to ensure independence (and peace of mind) is to source your own broker.

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    Building rapport with local agents works.

    When they know that you’re the real deal, chances are you’ll get the odd call from them with deals that haven’t hit the market.

    How’s that 370z treating you Nathan? :)

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    Hi Billy Bob

    Welcome to the forum and congrats on saving such a large deposit.

    You’ve certainly done a good job timing your entry into the property market. I’m not sure how things are looking in Melbourne but my general observation is that most major markets have cooled which presents great opportunities for buyers.

    What have “experts” been telling you to do with your $50k?

    Much of the $50k would get chewed up by one purchase in a metro area (higher growth, lower yield) or could probably spread across a couple of deposits in a regional area (lower growth, higher yield). Obviously, these are just general comments and there are exceptions to this.

    If I were you, I’d work backwards – decide what you want to get out of investing and then devise a plan from that.

    Also surround yourself with people in the know – a good accountant, mortgage broker, etc.

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    Hi Danviv

    I hate to say it but you really should have waited for strata approval. As much of a pain in the a** it can be – you have to play by their rules.

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    tballard wrote:
    So I have two questions. At the moment, I’m a phd student so I don’t quite have the money in the bank or the cashflow to put down for a house (though I’m on my way to being there soon I think). But I’m still hoping to find a way to get more involved. I’m getting a bit tired of reading books and want to move on to the next phase. So my question is what kind of strategies can anyone suggest that would allow me to learn and gain some experience, but still taking into account that I have limited funds available at the moment?

    As the others have mentioned – try and meet up with like-minded investors. Learn from their experience. Also, continue contributing to forums like this. They are full of up-to-date information and knowledgeable people who are always willing to help out and answer questions.

    tballard wrote:
    My second question. I’m living in Perth at the moment, and was wondering if there is a group of investors, young people or otherwise, that meet to discuss ideas and would be open to helping newcomers. Alternatively, if there are other young people in the area who are just starting off on the journey, perhaps we could start a group?

    I guess that was covered off in questions one.

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    I didn’t realise Alistair was based in Melbourne – yep, I agree with the others.

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