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    chappy1970 wrote:
    Richard is there a simple formula to use to work out what the monthly salary would be, incorporating interest from an IO loan of an investment property.

    My wife and I are crunching the numbers at the moment to determine what our purchasing power is.

    We have an Equity loan organised from my PPOR. The outstanding on the PPOR is $240K on a property recently valued at $1.25MM.

    So the equity loan will be 100% of the purchase price.

    Any advice and/or formula's I could apply would be great

    Chris

    Sorry, I should have responded to this in the last post.

    This spreadsheet will give you an idea of how much the IP will cost you to hold per week – http://www.passgo.com.au/pass-go-investment-property-analysis-tool

    From that, you’ll be able to roughly work out how much cost p.a you could subtract from your annual income.

    With that equity line. I’d take out enough to cover the 20% deposit plus costs (around $125k on a $500k purchase) and set up another loan for the remaining funds (possibly with another lender – depending on where the best deal is).

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    david24 wrote:
    G'day all,
    I would like any advice or what would you do in my situation.We live in Sydney,house worth 850k,our mortgage is 200k.That makes our equity around 650k.
    We have 2 teenagers 15 and 12.Our income,me 75k,my wife 25k.Obviously i would go to a financial advisor with any ideas i may have,but im interested in what you Ladies and Gents have to say.

    Hi David, welcome to the forum. You might found that a financial advisor may steer you away from property as an asset class (not all – but some do).

    david24 wrote:

    I'm interested in buying a IP around Brisbane,(dont know which suburb yet).But what is scaring me off is the negative gearing figures.Say the house is worth 400k to 500k,i would need to borrow up to 90% of the total purchase costs.I would get rent of around $400 per week.Now the painfull bit,i would have to top up each week around $250 to cover the mortgage.This would be impossible for us.

    Is there a way of greatly reducing the amount i pull out of my pocket each week?.Can i claim all of that $250 that i pay?

    Is the above formula correct?.Am i aiming too high?.Would a lender be interested?

    Thanks for any advice and comments.

    Have you considered looking into areas with a higher rental yield? If you look further south towards Logan you’ll find more affordable properties with decent yields. Obviously you’d have to carry out your own due diligence on particular areas but if cash flow is a concern than perhaps something that’s not so negatively geared would be a better alternative.

    Another thing to remember is that rents generally increase overtime – which slowly reduces your costs.

    All of Richards excellent points will improve cashflow as well.

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    Personally, I’d look to get the reno wrapped up. Once that’s done – you can have the property revalued. If the renovations added value, you could tap into this equity and use it towards purchasing the next property.

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    I reckon you can have your cake and eat it too.

    If you buy an IP, search for something with a decent yield that will look after itself (or come close to) in terms of rent coming in and costs coming out.

    If you buy a PPOR, you could consider renting a room or two to friends/family.

    Both of these scenarios allow you to enter the property market and shouldn’t significantly impact on your current lifestyle.

    I agree with starting out young. Property is a long-term asset, as a young person starting out you have time on your side.

    Any particular reason why you’re saving up to $50k? It’s shaping up to be a buyers market at present so you may be able to find some good deals right now.

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    anhie wrote:
    Thanks for your helpful advice. I know now its definitely wise and best to get a mortgage broker assistance.
    As a inexperience first home buyer there’s of options and hidden costs associated with
    mortgage that a broker can explain and answer questions you may have.
    I’m guessing Jamie a mortgage broker? But isn’t he from NSW. I’m from Melbourne.

    I thought I was just speaking with you on the phone…..I just had a 10 minute conversation with someone about this post.

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    The first property we done it with was vacant. We were able to get access to the property before settlement to carry out renos and advertise for tenants. Both conditions were worked into the contract before exchange.

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    If you were topping up to 80% you’d have access to $170k ($400k x 0.8 = $320k). Take $320k and subtract existing loan of $150k – giving you $170k to access.

    The property that you purchase receives income in the form of rent. That how it’s possible.

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    Equity can be achieved through future growth or manufactured through renovations.

    With you offset – you can take back whatever you put in.

    Another thing to note – cash from your offset will not be deductible, whilst new borrowings against the property will be.

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    Hi Anh

    Do you think you’ll want to tap into this properties equity within the first five years? If so, I’d ask them about their cashout policy. You might not think you’ll need to refinance now – but if down the track you do decide to use some of the equity and they don’t allow it then you’ll have no choice but to go elsewhere. Which is likely to cost you big bucks in DEFs.

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    anhie wrote:
    hi

    im looking to buy house for around 400000k
    means i will need to have 20% which is 80k to avoid lmi

    LMI doesn’t have to be a bad thing. I’d rather take out a 90% lend and pay some LMI (which can be added to the loan) then wait while I save up a 20% deposit. Also, if this is going to become an IP in the future – you probably don’t want to drop all your savings into this property and reduce the level of deductible debt.

    anhie wrote:
    (will be using as ip after getting fhog)

    All good – but you’ll have to live in it for at least 6 months within the first year.

    anhie wrote:
    i have been looking for home loan that is
    -interest only
    -offset account
    -low interest, low or no fees

    using infochoice home loan comparison website
    the best deal is listed was Equity saver premium interest only home loan
    (Has anyone had any experience with them)
    Even though they have exit fees when you transfer loan before the 5 years period. but
    why would you if the cost of servicing the loan you be at least 20k off than any other
    lender on infochoice.

    offset facilities have maximum amount you can put in there?
    how long does it take to get pre approval from the lenders when you submit your application.
    also i will be seeking a mortgage broker for advice just to make sure

    thanks
    anh

    I wouldn’t base your decision purely on interest rate. What’s their cashout policy like (will they allow you to access equity in the future)? I doubt you’ll be able to cashout above 80% in the future (which can cost you a lot in terms of missed opportunity). That deferred establishment fee (which will need to be removed by 1 July 2011) is a killer.

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    Shape wrote:
    How much is the rent going up by?

    We’ve moved into this one. It was renting for $425 p.w previously – it would get closer to the $500 p.w mark now though.

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    We just spent $7k on renovating a 3 bedroom house (the bathroom hasn’t been done though). We painted it ourselves, installed new kitchen doors/handles/sink/oven, re-carpeted throughout, new light fittings and other bits and pieces and tidied up the yards.

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    Hi slow achiever

    I thought you were talking about living off equity (ie tapping into equity and using it to fund your lifestyle).

    I don’t have a problem with accessing equity to purchase further properties. That’s how most of us build our portfolios.

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    Thanks guys.

    Parts of the gyprock were replaced and then tidied up with some plastering. Lots of sanding and repainting the roof gave it a nice finish.

    Cheers

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    I’m not sure about the legalities around it but it’s something I’ve negotiated with vendors before.

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    Another excellent site and one to add to the due diligence checklist- thanks for sharing.

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    Why not give Michael a call – he’s in Sydney.

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    Watch a DIY youtube clip and get cracking :)

    It’s a job that can be carried out by any carpenter or handyman. Is the property being managed at present? If so, ask them for a contact.

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    Hi Don

    I would work out exactly how much the IP will cost you to hold over the next 12 months.

    If it’s less than the break fees of $7k I’d consider holding (besides – it’s probably not the best time to sell at present).

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    slowachiever wrote:
    <The idea they have is to never own anymore properties , and basically build a gravy train I call it ,of equity and at the end of it all ,just keep scooping money off the top of the equity .

    The new NCCP legislation coupled with stagnant/decreasing growth in most property markets at present would make this a very difficult (if not impossible) strategy to employ.

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