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No it doesn't matter where you live. However keep in mind that if you live far away from your IP, you will be very reliant on your property manager. For instance if something breaks, you may not be able to justify an interstate trip to take a look yourself and decide on the best resolution. Could end up costing you a wee bit more. However, far better to be in the NSW market than no NSW market at all ! Choose your property manager wisely – do your ground work and get some recommendations.
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Hi Wender,
There are free seminars on this; http://moneytree.com.au/view/seminar-property-through-super?seminarId=1
I'd suggest speaking to a bunch of providers that have knowledge in this area, as well as people who have done this with their super, before committing to anything. Also have a chat to a couple of banks about how they lend to SMSFs for property investment.
Where are you located, by the way?
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Thanks Terry!
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Here is another acronym… SMSF (self managed super fund). You can open your own super fund, transfer your existing super into it, and use it to buy property
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I'm in the process of reading some publications by Michael Yardney, who is a huge advocator of trusts. I'd be really interested in his thoughts on the matter if he's about (ie the logic in my comment in my previous post).
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I'd be immediately taking photos of this dodginess, and then establishing what to do. Try and get identifying features in the background of the pics (eg if the neighbouring property is in the background, it is reasonable to accept that the photo is indeed of your property and not some random building site somewhere).
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Yes that is sort of what I'm thinking Terry (not about the shares!). I'm thinking absolutely PPOR in own name, and probably up to the landtax-free-threshold in own name as well. Over and above that, perhaps the trust. And in addition to that, the SMSF…
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I think a question a lot of people have in their minds is: should I buy every property in a trust…. even if I end up with say, only 3 properties? Or should the first couple be in own name and then go into the world of trusts if planning to go larger?
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You are going to need a quantity surveyor sooner or later, so why not choose one, give him/her a call and ask if they think there is any point doing a schedule now, or best to wait till the works are finished…
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Seven Hills, Blacktown, Quakers Hill, St Marys, Nowra
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I'll be watching this thread with great interest. I'd love to see the pros and cons of buying in own name vs trust vs company vs SMSF structure all side by side.
Others will add to the discussion, but here are some thoughts:
Pros:
Asset protection against tenants suing. Entire portfolio not held in same "entity" (name) means you are limiting the properties they can force you to liquidate. As I understand it, the asset protection against greedy ex-spouses is not relevant as the family court is getting good at unravelling trusts.
Ability to distribute funds to your kids (and then take the money straight back off them to pay the school fees) or other trust beneficiaries to suit yourself in that given year.
Cons:
Pretty sure trusts do not enjoy a landtax-free-threshold.
Can't negative gear any losses against your income
Extra accounting + setup fees
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Here are a few to jog your memory. The precise wording that goes on the actual contract of sale should be discussed with your solicitor. Be cautious about agreeing to secure finance within less than 21 days. It is a process that seems to need about 21 days. Also be very sure to specify HOW MUCH finance you should receive as a bare minimum, and better still, with which bank. Don't say just "subject to finance". God help you if you manage to secure only $100 finance on a place. You'd then have satisfied the subject to finance clause and have to stump up the rest of the cash yourself!
These are examples – you could of course change the number of days settlement you are offering etc.
Subject to:
1. Results of building and pest inspection results that are satisfactory to the buyer within 21 days of the date of sale
2. That the buyer is able to secure insurance for the property that is satisfactory to the buyer within 21 days of the date of sale
3. That the buyer is able to secure residential investment property finance of a minimum of 80% (ie $300,000) of the sale figure with the Commonwealth Bank of Australia within 21 days of the date of sale
4. The buyer is entitled to reasonable access for the purpose of tradesmen measuring and quoting for jobs prior to settlement
5. The buyer is entitled to access of 30mins per week in the 3 weeks prior to settlement for the purpose of showing the property to prospective tennants
6. Settlement shall be 90 days (<<insert a convenient precise date of settlement>>)7.
Any renewed or new lease made on the property between date of sale and date of settlement must be for no less than $350 per week and for a period of not greater than 12 months
or
Buyer is entitled to vacant possession8. This offer expires at 5pm today (<<Insert date>>)
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Christmas isn't a great time to be selling. Also consider that tradesmen start to go on holidays so it's harder to hire in staff for the various stages of your project….
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Hate to say so, but it does depend.
re: Developing; It depends on how much finance you could get to finance development (as it'll be slightly trickier than just getting a loan for a dwelling that already exists). So your income that will service the loan will come into play etc etc. It also depends how much time you have to put into this, and whether you'd actually make enough money for it to be worth the bother.
The other thing you'll want to pay a lot of attention to right up front is the buying structure. eg whether to buy the property/s in your name, inside a trust, inside a company, or inside a Self Managed Super Fund. This is a whole other topic that will require you to be across the pros and cons of each. For instance, in a super fund, you will be paying for property with pre-taxed dollars and enjoying great asset protection, but you might find you can't leverage one property against another if you decide to buy more than one property through super. A trust might provide you with the ability to distribute profits to whomever depending on the various earnings levels of family members in a given year, but you might have to forego the tax-free threshold for land tax. Buying in your name will allow you to negative gear against your income, but then your assets are at risk if you get sued. As you can see, quite a topic….
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I'm confused – if it's already paid off, why not put students in it for a while until you have enough cash to finance the improvements without the assistance of a lender?
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Thanks boys. All very valid points. I had thought that I would keep this one in my name in order to write the losses off against my income, and purchase any additional properties through trusts.
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Do you mean brick facade and tile roof?
The reason I ask is there are some weird properties I've seen that are built from brick and then seem to have tiles glued to the facade. If these are what you are referring to I am puzzled.
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Hi Paul, just noticed your reference to "preferably brick and tile". Just interested to hear about why that is your preference?
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Hi Terry,
Thankyou for your reply. I'm in the process of purchasing something at present – proposed to be in my name. The finance is all approved in my name. Might be a bit tricky to now ask the bank to redirect the finance into the name of a trust?
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Banks don't seem to like property of less than 50sqm, or student accommodation. Setting that aside, wouldn't it be best to first clear your credit card debt before taking on even more debt?
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