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  • Profile photo of Jacqui MiddletonJacqui Middleton
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    I posted a bit of an explanation as to why use an offset account in this thread;
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/help-needed/4343894?#comment-258117

    Hope it helps….

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    Everybody is looking out for their own interests, and their own bank account balance.  It is important to remember that.  Very few people remain in the world that are happy to be honest about how an investment will impact you – even if it means they lose out on a sale.  It is for this reason you need to be sure in your mind of what you are doing because you have done your own research.  It's no use crying and blaming others if you buy something that turns out to be a bad investment for you.  Buyers Agents certainly have their place, and often hear about good deals that never get advertised on the real estate websites.  But to blindly buy something just because somebody tells you to, without looking into it and being sure in your own mind that it's a good idea is fraught with danger.

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    It's an account you put money into, and the balance of it is treated as though you'd paid it off the mortgage (so you pay no interest on your mortgage as per however much is in the offset account).  So let's say your mortgage owings are $300k and your offset account contains $40k.  Your mortgage will be charged interest only on $260k.

    The difference between simply paying your $40k onto the mortgage itself versus putting in an offset account is:

    – In an offset account, you can withdraw the money whenever you want, to use for whatever you want, without anyone's permission and without paying a fee

    – If you stash your money in an offset account but are generally not able to control the desire to withdraw it and use it to buy a new plasma or a new pair of shoes, then maybe it is not an ideal option for you

    – If the money is in an offset account, you can withdraw it years later and use the money as a deposit on a new house; be it an investment property or a home for you to live in.  Either way, it leaves the house you are moving out of with as much debt as possible; and shifting your cash reserves to your new house.  This is important if the new house is one you will live in.  Because mortgage interest on your home residence is not tax deductable (so it's best to have as much of your cash as possible in your home, and leave the debt for the investments)

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    It would be a worthwhile exercise comparing the council rates and such.  I recently had the opportunity to see the council rates, body corporate fees and such for a new "house" for 2011 and also 2009.  I was able to see how rapidly the bills had risen and it was disturbing.  Basically what had occurred is that a developer had bought the street, and turned the whole street into a body corporate.  The council rates were wayyyy higher than those of an older house on a plot of land of twice the size just around the corner (a location of equal stature) and the body corporate fees had gone up astronomically.  The body corporate is covering the upkeep of the naturestrips, the street lighting (that's right – it's not council's problem), the roads and pavements, and buiding insurance.  A couple of years ago I observed that a new subdivision (ie new suburb) near my home has been developed as a body corporate.  The whole suburb is a body corporate.   It's poor residents are even forking out for the local leisure centre… whether they use it or not.  Be wary of the holding costs in such new subdivisions.  I would imagine that it's the way of the future – state government squirming out of maintaining the streetscape by having entire suburbs declared body corporates responsible for the upkeep of their own roads and street lighting (and remember street lighting attracts an electricity bill, and that electricity goes up each year).  In this regard I'm very wary of new areas and prefer older areas.

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    Just a suggestion…

    If you have $600k in cash, there are a lot of suburbs you can buy in without a finance clause.  A means of muscling out the competition.  You could buy a place for cash, and then apply a financier to finance it after the fact, thereby getting most of your cash back.  And repeat.  Might mean you get a low offer accepted in exchange for the absence of a finance clause.

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    Not being funny, but what can they do if you choose not to pay these fines?  You are not an American citizen, so what is their plan?  Extradition?  Hehhee

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    Because people are stupid.  They'll spend more time deciding which clothes washing liquid is the best buy this week than they will researching a property purchase that will cost them a couple of hundred thousand dollars.  They see a low-cost unit and think it is a bargain, but don't realise there are other factors.

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    Charge more rent (say $15-$20 per week) and get them to sign a pet clause, acknowledging they'll be liable for any damage the pet causes.  Also have on the clause that they have to steam clean the carpets and curtains every six months and show the property manager the receipts.  I've got someone renting a one-bedder from me that happily agreed to steam clean the carpets every six months in order to be able to keep a cat for company.  I did not increase the rent due to the cat moving in because the place is pretty dated and in the event the tenant moves out, I'd do a major renovation anyhow.  If the cat passes away, the tenant has to go and sign a new pet clause if he wants to get a new cat.  The clause is not transferrable. 

    Be careful with your insurance – insurers don't tend to cover pet damage, so don't assume you'd be covered there.

    A labrador is a pretty large animal so I suppose you're talking a fair bit of shedding of hair, and big muddy footprints on the carpet  if it is allowed to move freely between the backyard and carpeted zones.  If you have tiled floors, probably doesn't matter.  But I think they are a pretty placid breed so unlikely to chew the place to bits. 

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    Hi FF430

    Why not grab a copy of the Australian Property Investor magazine and study the rear pages (statistics).  Look for suburbs that have good historical capital growth (at least 8% listed in the 10 year annual capital growth column), above 6% rental yield, and below 3% vacancy rate.  Better still if there is new infrastructure coming to the suburb that will make it more desirable to live in.  Things like new roads, rail or shopping centres.  But honestly, you want the suburb to be doing well now, not based on promises that might fall through.  If there is a huge gap in price between unrenovated and renovated places, fantastic.  You can do a very serious overhaul of a one bedder unit for under $20k, and for this you'd get new kitchen, appliances, new bathroom, new split system, new floor and wall tiles, new carpet, some new doors and handles, new paint, new security screen doors….  So say unrenovated units are going for $200k and renovated units for $60k, there is a good opportunity there.  You could reno yourself (or pay tradies to do the various components… you just direct traffic so to speak).

    Get to know expected rental yields for the suburb by watching http://www.realestate.com.au/rent and also speak to a few local agents.  Then you will understand say how much per week you'll get for a 3br house that is unrenovated, versus renovated.

    Remembering that there are buying and selling costs associated with property transactions, you'd want to be careful of a buy, reno and sell strategy.  The margins might be a bit skinny.  However a strategy such as the one below might suit you;

    1. Buy # 1
    2. Renovate
    3. Contact mortgage broker and arrange revaluation so you can find out how much equity you've created – use this equity for deposit on next purchase
    4. Do a depreciation schedule (google this) so you can get tax benefits for all the new stuff you've just put into the property
    5. Put a tenant in for higher rent than you would have got if you did not renovate
    6. Buy IP # 2

    …. and repeat

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    Loving this thread Engelo.  Keep the story rolling! 

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    If you are negative gearing, you are making a loss.  You will be able to get a portion of this loss back by claiming it against your tax return, but make no mistake, you will not get all of it back.  So overall you still make a loss.

    Either way, in order to negative gear, you need an income to claim the loss against.  What if you lose your job?  This would be a big game changer.  Anyway, isn't the objective of investing to edge towards not having a job, rather than digging yourself deeping into the need to have a job?

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    I live and invest in VIC.  Richard (who posted in this thread) is a broker based in QLD and he is my broker.  You can arrange all that sort of thing via email, fax and phone these days.  You do not need a local broker.  You simply need a good one.  Doesn't matter if he/she is on the other side of the country.

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    Check that your loan offer from the bank allows a 90 day settlement. 

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    As Richard says, the $6k stamp duty and fees is not realistic.  I just did a smsf purchase with St George as the financier… Richard organised the mortgage (thanks Richard! ). 

    To give you an idea of the costs you'll be up against, even after the smsf is set up:

    Bare Trust : $800
    Bank fees: $2300 (seriously – they charge $1500 just to read your 4 page bare trust deeds)
    Solicitor: $800
    financial advisor (requirement of St George smsf loan) : $450
    Building inspector : $400
    Pest Inspector : $330

    So you're already at $5k before you even pay your stamp duty.  There are online stamp duty calculators where you can determine the stamp duty payable.  Unless you're buying something off the plan, stamp duty will apply.  You said you were planning to do a flip which means you are buying an established property, so stamp duty will apply, and it will be a good whack more than $1k…. which is what it would have to be for all your costs to come in at only $6k.

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    You've got your solicitor involved, yes?

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    Any idea what time at the Mitcham hotel, and if it is necessary to book?

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    Is it in a building of serviced apartments, with a tenant such as Quest Apartments?

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    Have you thought about rolling your existing super into your own smsf (self managed super fund) and using it to buy property?  Banks will loan up to 80% for such a purchase, so your smsf would just need 20% deposit, stamp duty, legal fees and a couple of extra thousand for incidentals…

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    Hi there,

    first thing to do is ring council and ask for some guidance.  next stop would be a surveyor.

    jac

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    exactly!

    maybe build yourself a little spreadsheet that makes sense to you…. and which helps you figure out costs you definitely know a property will incur in a reno.  and then of course expect the costs to be higher for all the stuff you don't know about :-)

    the thing about a reno is, once you start, you kind of have to finish.  so you don't want to run out of cash.  costs you too much in resale value to offload an unfinished property.  it puts people off.  largely because they see unfinished stuff and have no concept of how much effort or money is required to finish it…. so maybe the fear of the unknown makes them assume the worst.

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