Hmmm, very interesting. I appreciate the comments.
Fraud – we have already spoken with the banker and they are in full receipt of the facts so I cant see how that is relevant in my case. It has all been fully disclosed.
There also seems to be two schools of thought: 1) loan in wife's name, me as gaurantor. 2) loan in both names then jointly onlend to the wife. Do you need a separate contract to do this? 3) Loan in both names, then onlend my half to my wife? How does that work? Do you need a separate contract?
It's a little confusing but I think I picked out all the options discussed.
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Trent, the strategy I am looking at is purchasing residential properties that are positive geared now (or positive within 3-4 years) in metropolitan Melbourne. I have done one development project that I settled this month and now want to set up a passive income stream for the future. I would like to buy 3-4 properties within the next 18 months.
In terms of my diversification question I understand that commercial property has far better returns. But I dont want to take the risk of commercial property without spreading my risk across other investments. In theory they could all be in property but I am not sure if property is diverse enough.
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An important guide for me when making life decisions is to ask myself … what are my goals (ie. what are my emotional, subjective desires that I want to make a priority in my life)? Then I look into the best way to achieve this (ie. the rational/financial). I suppose the trick is to not let the emotional side cloud good judgement when wieghing up how to achieve these goals. So I believe they always have to work together.
I suspect from a pure investment point of view there are better options than Hepburn. But you may still be able to make it work – it's all in the numbers.
Look through the forums, there are many discussions on how people invest with different budgets, risk levels, time committments etc. But what they cant tell you is what you want out of life. There will be a scenario that will suit your goals and it may not be the most lucrative. Good luck with your journey.
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I'm in Melbourne and up until the start of this month (when I sold the property): 1) I was paying 6% (+gst) 2) 2 weeks rent for letting fee – period 3) $0 4) $0 5) $0 6) tenants responsibility. I believe some landlords will add this to the rent as part of the lease.
So … 1) it was not the norm for me. 2) I had to ride the PM a little to get the inspections at times but they were done. All part of the service as far as I was concerned. Being a PM should not just be banking your commission each month, you should expect them to do something. I'm surprised they aren't trying to charge you for arranging maintenance (from what they were telling you)! 3) I didnt do it but I have heard of some that do. I suppose it's personal preference.
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An important ingredient is to know your goals. It's great to see that you have listed them above. When sorting through the different options for investing it will be good to refer back to these to help you keep on track.
Education is the next important ingredient. Joining the forums is a great starting point as there are so many people with experience in all aspects of investing. There are also some great books out there. Personally I have read Steve's. You have probably seen the threads advising books from Lomas and Kiyosaki among others. Also, Australian Property Investor magazine is great. I'm not sure what links are available to give you information though.
I hope that helps a little bit. There are many others on here with more experience than me who I'm sure can give you more.
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Interesting thread. A question from a non finance person. If FP's can no longer earn commissions, and if giving advice should be free, where do they make their money?
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One thing that will help focus you as well is to work out what your goals are. Do you want a certain lifestyle, retire by 30! etc. To do this do you need to earn passive income, build wealth, or get some quick cash? I know at 20 its hard to figure out what you want to do but you have obviously thought about it enough to get involved in this forum. Well done, and I wish you well as you sort through your investment maze.
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You will find that there is a price developers will have in mind for approved developments. eg. 200k per dwelling on a lot. So if you have approval for 3 dwellings the price would be around 600k for the property. So, try and find out what the price is. A good real estate agent should know their area.
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Sorry to hear about your predicament. Hopefully it will be resolved very soon!
A point to consider is that from the photos on the website the kitchen and bathroom doesn't look updated at all. Plus a picture of a toilet! It doesn't entice me to pick up the phone from that angle.
What other advertising are they doing? Is it just an add on re.com?
Is a 15 minute inspection time slot normal – it wouldn't take much for someone to run a little late and decide not to attend. Also 3.30-3.45 on a Thursday seems a pretty unhelpful time. School pickups would kill the option for a lot of families. Perhaps something closer to 5pm – for 1/2 hour – would work better.
Over the past two years I was letting an old 2brm house on the edge of central dandenong (walk to the plaza) and close to transport and schools. Quite an unappealing house actually but it was always tenanted. My property manager was RTS and they were ok. Communication was a bit slow but they tenanted the place twice for me over 2 years in quick time. I've also heard that McLennans is meant to be good – but dont quote me!
Good luck.
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