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Hi jasedc5r,
Just something for you to consider, planning policy in Monash City Council which Clayton falls within requires 75m2 out of which 35m2 needs to have a minimum dimension of 5m.
With this requirement you might find some properties even with 800m2 in size would have difficulty to fit 3 dwellings whereas a 800m2 in Box Hill would generally have no problem because Whitehorse's planning policy only requires 40m2 secluded private openspace out of which 24m2 with minimum dimension of 3m.
Hi Maternic,
You can always contact some designers or architects who specializing in these sort of things, they should be able to provide you with any feasibility feedback and costing. I have a few designers who might be able to help me so let me know if you need the details.
H
Hi Picklesam,
If it's a new estate, then there should be a developer who sub-divided the blocks and built road infrastructures etc. They would be the one that you need to speak to. In many new estates, the developers have their own design guidelines and in most cases they prohibit the owner from building more than 1 dwelling on the lot as it may disrupt their streetscape or whatever.
Another document that you can check is Certificate of title (should be included in the section 32), it might have a covenant saying the owner may not construct more than 1 dwelling on this lot etc…
Hi darvii,
A mate of mine has managed to build a 2 storeys house (4 bedrooms and about 22 square in size) for $180,000 a few years back in Yarraville VIC.
$380,000 should be well within budget for 2 x 18 square townhouses however, you will have to build them as an owner builder and be very smart when selecting sub-contractors and internal finishes materials. You will need to spend alot of time monitoring on site and co-ordinating with other contractors.
I might PM you with some cost effective supplier’s details which may come handy for you in the future.
hrub
Hi Tigermiger,
You should always start by giving the local council a quick call to find out whether there's any restrictions on the property. I assume you would have a copy of Section 32, have a good read on the certificate of title section to see whether there's any covenant prevents you from constructing multiple dwellings.
For your other questions, you should consult with a designer or builder. Some good designers should be able to provide you with a simple feasibility study for free which includes estimated floor area of new buildings, professional services cost and construction cost.
H
Hi GLT
There is no minimum lot size requirement from Monash City Council for what you want to do but you definitely need to get a professional to go to your property to measure the backyard to ensure there's enough space for vehicle parking (for both dwelling), access and the required backyard space for both dwellings which is about 40m2 each I think.
Check your message box for my architect's contact details, he's very experienced in these kind of developments and has frequent dealing with various councils in the south eastern suburbs.
Hrub
Monty,
It’s not a rule that you need to build a garage in between but you do need at least 1 carspace per each dwelling and each has convenient access. You should still enquire with a professional to see whether you have enough space and that shouldn’t cost you anything!
Good luck!
Hi Monty,
In the past, we avoided overlooking issues by using higher windows or opaque glass for upper floor.
With the ground floor I would rather have the habitable windows face north as it makes a huge difference for energy efficiency. There probably would be minimal windows to the side facing your existing house because you will need to place a garage in between the 2 buildings.
I hope this all make sense as I’m not a professional in designing these things just leant a few tricks from my designer for my developments!
Or you could ring up the local council and tell them that you live next door and need to speak to the owner about some fence issues…
they will give you the contact detailsHi Matrix,
I'm based in Victoria as well, have done enough residential developments and am now looking at smaller commercial developments e.g. retail and student accommodation etc. I think commercial developments can be profitable if you do it right. Your land sounded with a lot of potential.
My suggestion is that you should still find a way to maximise your site, find a joint venture if your capital is low. Or even hold onto it for a little while and wait for your area to be better developed, you can use your land as a carpark lot in the meantime? Your decision should be base on availability of your local amenity e.g. parking, public transport and self storage etc. Try to provide your community with services that they need, price will only go up if it's in high demand.
I am aware that it depends on your family's agreement given that your folks are getting separated, but you should work out the best option for yourself (whether sell, hold or develop) then get your parents to come to term. But by reading your description, there's a lot can be done with your land.
Hi Matrix,
A piece of interesting land you got over there. May I ask whereabouts is this land? Which state and how far from the CBD area?
Depends on how much capital you have, it sounds like a perfect site for a mixed-use development. For example, you build shops on ground floor and residential above. Then sell the residential units to pay off the bank while keeping the retail for rental income?
It might not work out for you that way but it is just a thought!
Hi blueheeler1968,
I found out about this website from my architect when he was helping me sub-dividing my plot of land in Truganina.
Hello GLT,
I am currently sub-dividing another property in Ashwood which happens to be under the municipality of Monash City Council. The biggest problem I'm encountering is that the council refuses to allow me to build double storey at rear however I have seen other new developments in Mount Waverley that are double storey at front and back. Your architect or town planner should be able to find out all the requirements before anything else. There is no minimum lot size required by the council.
Cost of service connection varies from area to area, one service provider to another, however these cost is relatively insignificant compare with professional services fees and construction cost. I suggest you to collect quotation from local architects or building designers.
I will be happy to refer you my architect as he is very experienced in dealing with councils from South Eastern suburbs and he can provide you with the full service from design to construction. He is actually pretty cheap compare to other quotes that I have got previously. After you get 2 to 3 quotes from various professionals you should have a better idea. I will shoot you a quick private message with his details.
I don't know about you guys but I feel $20k is way too steep for town planning service, and my understanding is that figure doesn't even include land surveyor and town planning application and advertising fee.
I have done 3 sub-divisions in the last 5 years and on all 3 occasions I have used an architect and the last one only costed me around $8k which I believe should be the market rate today. My architect is equally informative and proactive and on all 3 occasions I had my planning permit granted. I even got a good discount on my building permit application from hm. I hate to see people paying unnecessarily higher fee because some big brand just happens to be the number 1 search result on google. Please look harder people, and shop around before you choose someone!!! Believe me, you rather spend the extra 15k to upgrade the kitchens or something.
