Ok, Remember that Equity is a double edged sword,  It can,  in a inflation market make you rich,  It can also send billionaires bust.  It only takes one thing to go wrong and you can loose everything you ever had.

And why don't you work on increasing your income first ?  Save a much bigger initial deposit,  Start with very small investments and use your very small profits to reinvest

Have you ever bought a car well under price,  Driven it around for 2 years and sold it for more then you paid for ?

Just one example:

Even when my family was on the farm,  They always made a profit on there machinery,  Everything we bought we made a profit on,  I remember a story of one Dozer that was bought for a few thousand pounds,  Was used on the farm for 15 years and then sold for 20k Same with cars,  Our family would always buy cheap but good cars at exceptional deals,  Drive them for a few years and in some cases make 200-300% profit on them.

Now that is just one example of the top of my head,  But the point im trying to make is that you can run your whole life like that,  And its the people who run there business/household or w.e at a surplus that have access to these types of oportunitys… no the debt mongers,  They are to busy refinancing there fancy loans and aquiring more risk.

What im basically trying to say is that its Prudence that will make a man wealthy,  Not elaborate get rich schemes

Ok,  So I have to address the comment above about my idea's being Right Wing,  Some people may think my doctrine is that way,  But from where I am coming from I don't see it that way at all.

Now it is historical fact that the civilizations with the most limited forms of government and reduced bureaucracy creating the freest people are the nations that prosper the most.  Whereby the nations who follow the path of centralized planning,  big government, mass bureaucracy, tyranny and webs of regulation suffer from economic and productive cancer and eventually collapse,  I might also add that this usually precedes a time of anarchy revolt.

From the governments point of view they are the solution to a civilizations problems,  Whether it be economic or anything else under the sun,  No wonder there solution to ANYTHING is more government,  The prescription does not change when the cause of the sickness is caused from government interference in the first place,  I like the analogy where by they cannot see the effect of putting more fuel on the fire,  There solution is ALWAYS more fuel..

Subconsciously people forget that government is not free,  Government makes NO profits and there productivity is Nothing,  Actually its less then nothing, there productivity is Negative,  If government was on a balance sheet it would show up on the liability side,  The bigger they are the more that is finally removed from our country's total output and productivity.

Not only does it cost us the initial expense of paying for our burdens (Gov) but we must also factor in the kinetic loss of wealth through transfer of money,  for example:  If the government collects $100 through taxes it no longer has $100 to reinstate back into the economy again,  It may only have $60 from those initial taxes to spend back again through the effect of erosion they cause,  not to mention the multiplier that is added if that money is borrowed because not only everything else takes affect but now we (tax payer) has the added loss of interest on top of that !  So what am I trying to say ? The government is the biggest leech on the planet and now we are in economic dire circumstances and there solution is to fatten the leech !

Rudd lies to us all and tells us that capitalism has had it's chance and failed,  And now it is up to socialism and big government to bail the free market out.  Lies,  All of it.  We have never had a free market to begin with,  The best we have had is a partial free market.

If our economy was truly free market then we would have sound monetary policy,  But we don't,  We use the federal reserve banking system and our currency is Fiat,  Meaning there is no constraints on the proportion of the money supply,  government can print as much as they like and tax us through inflation and banks can lend 10x more money then what even exists.

Our suffering economy was caused by centralized,  Monopoly like control over interest rates,  Wealth and prosperity was short lived through the creation of easy money that did not even exist in the first place,  When you get your $400,000 110% loan from the bank,  Do you think that money comes from there coffers ? Well it doesn't,  Its a computer entry,  Increased wealth can only be achieved through the formula of subtracting what you consume from that you produce,  If you have a surplus production then that is the increase to your wealth,  Currently we are playing the game the opposite way around and wonder why we are loosing.

Economists tell us that our now gone so called prosperity was caused by the resources boom,  But this only played a small role,  It was the easy false money through bad monetary policy that caused the biggest property bubble the world has seen,  But the 20%+ gains year after year was false and traded for by inflation that should never have happened,  And now the reaper is coming to get his end of the deal.

I also need to very quickly address the few comments made for stimulus,  Money borrowed in the private sector is totally different to money borrowed by government,  The difference is that in the private sector the borrower takes the risks of failure and therefore will be sold up to repay his debts shall something go wrong.

Whereby the government does not take this risk and therefore should not be allowed this privilege.  Not only that but if you took note to my previous passages you will understand how governments are negative productive entities and therefore cannot INCREASE there profits because they make none,  Also they cannot increase productivity,  Its impossible,  You can't do things the opposite way around and except the results,  Even IF the very little money spent on useful infrastructure increases some private sector productivity some way, The fruits of that where already gone before it happened.

Our forefathers knew the disasters that come from what we have done,  How many people know that back in the 1800's fighting the central banks to stop them taking over was mainstream news in the media ?

How many people know that fiat money was outlawed in Europe hundreds of years ago by kings and anyone caught trying to run ponzi scheme's where charged with usery ?

I think I will end this rant now,  It has been rather long and I think is best to finish it before it becomes to inarticulate to comprehend    I hope I got some of my EXTREMIST RIGHT WING,  CAPITALIST points across

Refer to my previous comment in another post…

Basically I say… No,  We cannot spend out way to prosperity,  the solution is we need to become more productive… hand outs and spending does NOT achieve this,  the consumer as well as the government need to be saving money… Also government created jobs don't even count in my opinion because they are unproductive and achieve nothing,  Remember its productive people "tax payers" who have to pay for government jobs in the first place.

A Stimulus is like giving another hit to a heroin addict…..  Actually,  the bailout should not even be called a Stimulus, Its really a economy depressant

https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/general-property/4327036?gocid=185399

Typical globalist extremist propaganda,  Also typical response to Ignorance,  If you don't know or understand something laugh at the people who talk about it and say it does not exist.

A 5 star general of the United States military,  The Supreme commander of the US forces in the European theater during WW2,   was one of the greatest commanders of all time and was also the 34th president of the united states warned the world that there was a coup taking place by the military industrial complex,  But i am sure you have much better knowledge and understanding them him…. by him I mean, General Eisenhower,  But hey, It doesn't exist.

Just like how the NWO doesn't exist,  The hundreds of political officials and documents leaked by groups like the UN, Bilderburg, Club of Rome talk about things like: Globalism,  One world governence,  mass population reduction and control, loss of libertys and other such talks of tyranny by Elite groups.  Hell, even lord Rudd is calling for Stalisnism and a NWO  http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/time-for-a-new-world-order-pm/1421121.aspx

But hey,  It dosent even exist,  so you just sit there like a big boy and snicker at everyone who is more informed then you are.

Also I can't help but say It's nice to see such degenerate type people on this site like you who believe that procreation along with the elements of life should be government regulated….  What is your age ?  You look like your getting old… 50+ ?  I think its time we sent you to the chambers,  You have already used up your fair share of earth's resources…. 

How about your children ? do you have any ?  Would you support the Gestapo comming and forcing your daughter to have an abortion like they do in china ?

Should I invest in a bubble that is about to blow…  Considering it probably already has and the property market on average has taken a 8% dive in the previous year,  which is just the scratch of the service…   You will see certain properties sell at 50% discount or more in the years to come.

Obviously now is not the time to be even considering playing in this field,  If you want to make money in 2009 buy gold or silver,  Also after most of the carnage in the share markets and commodity markets has finished it would be a good time to invest in things that make the world go round… like oil and food…. and Medicine…. Look for innovation… That is where the profits will be.

But now is not the time to be investing in these things,  We have not seen the start of this economic collapse yet,  You would be better spending your energy's on saving cash and liquidish assets,  Not trying to figure out how you can go into debt…

Typical selfish self centered denial attitude,  But what you don't have the wisdom to realize is that what affects everyone else will one day affect you.

I'm just being realistic,  Your choosing to be ignorant and put your head in the sand,  As with my rantings,  There purpose is to empower peoples lives with the force of knowledge….  You only see that as a negative thing.  Should I choose the path of all the so called "expert" economics and yell 2008 recovery,  2009 recovery,  2010 MEGA BOOM….  ???

What help has that done to all the innocent people who listened to the mainstream and now have 50% or less of there retirement wiped away ?

Wait a minute,  If I recall correctly,  Your one of the savvy people who told everyone on the forum a few months ago to jump in the stock market and put everything they have into shares because you where calling the "bottom" and there was going to be a big ASX recovery boom by now…. mmm  ASX 3458.1 and jumping all around the place… its February and its still obvious that we are in a bear market trend…  Lets see how much money you have lost by christmas shall we ?

Do you know what the biggest cause of has been during the 19th century ?   Ill tell you,  Its Democide and its estimated that over  262 million (some people estimate over half a billion) people have died from it in the past 100 years….  And you sit there behind your comp and tell us about things you don't even understand and say that they don't even exist.

Oh yeh,  And im still waiting for that compelling scientic report about Global Warming….  I would be interested in reading it…. maybe just like the nwo it dosent exist

Have a nice day.

Im not quite sure about the aliens anal probing people and releasing fart gas,  But I know the government is regulating Farm Animals across the world,  Yes farmers have to pay for the methane gas from animal fluctuations,  All animals will be forced to take the "mark of the beast?"  RFID microchip and when a farmer registers one of his cows a day late they will send out the Enviromantal Gestapo with Taser guns,  Seize the farmers land and charge him with Enviromantal Terorism

Well thats even if your criminal government will give you a permit to own a animal in the first place….

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081230165231.aspx

ahhaha, I love it,  Channel 10 says some kind of crap and everyone Parrots that like a little parrot,  Global Cooling is evidence of Global Warming lmao

What ? who ever said that seasons exist,  That's just a conspiracy made up by Al queda

You know earth has experienced temperatures much more vast then we are today,  Yet somehow now,  Its caused by fluctuation made by cows and we need to tax and regulate it.

Does anyone know how photosynthesis works ? maybe you should look it up and you will discover that the government is lying and that c02 IS NOT a toxic bad bad naughty substance made by the bolshevik. 

In fact not only do plants breath the stuff but WATER is 1/3 c02,  When will the ordinary people wake up and learn that the government and a handful of scientists are lying to them so that the whole life support system of the world can be government regulated ?

hmmm, see, what else can we regulate through regulating c02 ?  Cars, Electricity, Housing, Transportation, Food, Heating, Animals, Human reproduction policy ???

Come on, can't someone see the truth here ?

hahahaha,  I never thought Id see that brought up on here. lmfao

…. maybe he ment to say 640gb … ? lol

The government has things around the wrong way,  Falling house prices is the Solution,  NOT the problem.  After all, Isn't more affordable housing a good thing ?  Perhaps not to the so called investors who bought 3 beddy's at 400k

The bubble is looking for a pin and sooner or later it's going to find one.