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No real problem DLPP
all you’ve done is strip away the galv protection….
but it will take a few years before the rust comes thru…is it close to the beach???
oh dear
that might only be months….Look
whats going on here…….
how many gurus can we take
micheal yardney….
“Frankston has had its run and their is little to push property values up in the near future.”Greg Hocking..director Stuart Hocking
“”Frankston’s a sleeping giant”
(the key..sunday herald)two many gurus spoil the bro….the investment….
thats a 180 degree opposite view…..
OK another gurus opinion…
Hon Peter Costello..Member for Higgins…and the “World Greatest Treasurer”
In Australia, consumption is expected to moderate over 2005-06 and 2006-07, from the very strong growth of recent years. While the increase in petrol prices during 2005 will have contributed to the slowing in consumption, the moderation predominantly reflects the plateau in house prices. Dwelling investment has also moderated, although the current dwelling cycle is likely to be very muted compared with past cycles. In contrast, business investment remains strong and is expected to continue to grow strongly over the forecast period. Strong demand for commodities and high rates of capacity utilisation should support business investment.”Spoken like a true liberal…….
“what did he say?”
“property’s stuffed”
“na…he said muted”
“same thing, have a look at the back bench….muted….stuffed…same thing”
Kriscot
I think i’ve found your answer
its been there all the time…….
we’ve just been looking in the wrong place…….
NOW, who’s the “Greatest Treasurer this Country has EVER HAD”
right
The Hon Peter Costello …..member for Higgins….you lucky people….
and there it is …..in the ….
wait for it….
THE BUDGET 2005
the bible of the country………
it tells us where we’re going according to god (johnnie) and peter on his right side…..
now according to the scriptures…this is what’s going to happen…….
“In Australia, consumption is expected to moderate over 2005-06 and 2006-07, from the very strong growth of recent years. While the increase in petrol prices during 2005 will have contributed to the slowing in consumption, the moderation predominantly reflects the plateau in house prices. Dwelling investment has also moderated, although the current dwelling cycle is likely to be very muted compared with past cycles. In contrast, business investment remains strong and is expected to continue to grow strongly over the forecast period. Strong demand for commodities and high rates of capacity utilisation should support business investment.”
now if thats a lot of jargon for you…..
in simple termsproperty’s stuffed……i think he said muted….spoken like a true liberal
business up………go go go shares…ya hooooothanks peter
kiss to johnnie….he’s doing a great job….don’t worry about the wheat….yeh…they’ll forget by election time….sorry…..
now the budget might not be everybodies idea of good bedtime reading….but i’ll tell ya what……..
it tells ya where the country’s going……
“keep going WA”any room on that boat…….ah come on…..i voted labor………
Sorry cameron
just a cynic…let me explainlast weekends financial review “investor page”
there’s Marina Bakic….
buys a franchise from mortgage choice, and gets it up and running almost straight away….wow..this girls got go
and whats her experience….NON
let me quote….”i had no background in finance at all”
and…”it’ll take another 6 months before she’s back to her six- figure salary, she earned as a regional manager of a Fitness First””Now cameron, i’m sure you don’t fit that category…
but ASIC is aware that NOT ALL people in the mortgagee industry are that qualified to provide advice…and therefore have issued advice to consumersps….i have never used a broker, so have no personal experience, but when a broker got one of my staff into a “interest only loan” on his PPOR…i hit the roof…
and can i say, what your say about negotiating with the bank is a load of cr…..
No…..i have no misconception at allHi DD
i totally agree with your analysis…property is a great investment tool.
i know, i have used it very successfully.
but in hindsight, i could have done a lot better.
owning our own business and managing our own SMSF, we invested heavily into property post 92 (last recession).
we have just sold 1 property in the portfilio of properties, a penthouse in noosa heads.
even thou the CG was great, had we invested that money instead into Comm.Bank shares, today the return would be 1million ABOVE the return we got on the penthouse.
remember we dealing with SMSF…no borrowings
So the same problem arises today as 13 years later…
where to invest Shares or property?
except this time there’s in excess of 1 mil cash to play with….So going back to the question….
Where is the cycle going?i take on board everyone’s opinions
my gut feel is sideways……….for quite a while…..
there’s nothing in the economics of the country to say we booming..(unless your in mining, thanks WA)…retail sales stagnant…debt excessive…new IR laws to restrain wages……but hey what would i know…
thank redwing
90% of my investments are in property
but am questioning my wisedom with some of them
thats why the spreedsheets.
doesn’t take long to see how other investments can be more profitable.at the end of the day
its how much money you have sitting there….not debt…..that provides a happy retirementNow terry
we’ll all being positive here
lets not talk about that nasty word “serviceablity”
hi michael
just reading your post again
“you’ve bought 4 properties in the last 6 months in melbourne“
gutsy stuff
Did you do you figures?where you expecting the market to pick up quickly?
i only ask because that probably wouldn’t have been my strategy…..
why?
well 4 properties at melb median price (360k) = 1.44m
10% down..minus buying costs 107k, minus water and council rate 7k then add 62k rent, makes a 1st year loss of $152k…
no equity gain as property has gone backwards 2.7%…but lets call it zero…
no real gain heredo you know what you missed?
remember the newspapers having been telling us for the last 12 months….”china thirstly for australian minerals”…and “property stagnant”
now i’m no brain surgeon, but if you go with the flow…
you could have made 2.17m on your 1.4m paid the bank back, and pocketed 763K…..all in 12 months…with BHP shares…then you’d be ready when the property market starts that next boom
so instead of only 140k deposit, you’d have (763-CGT) 575K to invest in IPs
Now we talkinggood call michael
stick with property…….
just reading the latest “hottest suburbs for 2006” in the sun over the weekend, there’s been some amazing growths….just in the last 12 months….
for example Glen Iris up 9.1%…in 12 months….72.9% in 5 years…wowso what does that equate to in money terms.
Median house in Glen Iris 2000 410K…today 709k
lets put 10% down….. rent out $600/wk…NOT 1 cent spent on maintenance…. lets sell 5 yrs later……bring up excel spreedsheet…clunk..clunk..clunk..
profit $294K…..wowbut had the money been invested in BHP….Profit $745K….now thats a double wow wow
do you bernald might be a closet “share” trader??
Now thats a good suburb, but what if it was West Melb 5% growth in 5 years…381K to 400K..and rent of 300/wk
total profit – MINUS 46K..thats right minus….ouch…..boring old coles shares……… profit $80K
diverification……….cause there’s just to many experts with mixed ideas
thats right mike
64 computers left on overnight, connected ,via adsl, to this page….will steve and co please turn off their computers…..
and if it isn’t them, would you guys that are up at 3.00am in the morning please contribute ………
some people?
well done redwing
at this rate, by xmas you should have 12mil?and DLPP….how do you work out that its time to buy in NSW?
after all, wasn’t it the PM who has decided “who will come into this country and get a pay rise?”
No pay rise
No afford houseunless your a CEO ($65,000/wk) or a property investor (like redwing), the rest of us are only making (according to research) 50k a year
where’s the money?
do you something we don’t?????come on …..share it with the rest of us….there’s a money tree..isn’t there?
hi wrogers17206
what a great ad for Terry
but since he organised all your loans through ASB bank,
why would you go through him?is the coffee that good?
wouldn’t you be better off going direct to ASB , and just asking for the same deal minus the .8% he gets as commision?????
just trying to save money
hi wylie
you know how i said CBA where 43.98….
well today there 44.47…
thats an extra $20,253….in 1 daywhatever you do don’t tell my wife…..
afterall it was her super money i invested
if she finds out she could have retired on 1.5m i’m in the doghouse….hi 3056
anything has moved since 2003….pretty static
here’s the last 5 years of growth from the REIV web site
you’ll have hours of amusement checking out all the suburbshttp://propertydata.reiv.com.au/trendchart/
pity it carn’t predict the next 5 years?????
hi crownofgold
it might pay to read “The Residential tenancies Act” of your local state.
you will probably find a clause similar to :
Damage and repairs
123A Meaning of emergency repairs
Emergency repairs are works needed to repair any of the
following—
(a) a burst water service;
(b) a blocked or broken lavatory system;
(c) a serious roof leak;
(d) a gas leak;
(e) a dangerous electrical fault;
(f) flooding or serious flood damage;
(g) serious storm, fire or impact damage;
(h) a failure or breakdown of the gas, electricity or water
supply to premises;
(i) a failure or breakdown of an essential service or
appliance on premises for hot water, cooking or heating;
(j) a fault or damage that makes premises unsafe or
insecure;
(k) a fault or damage likely to injure a person, damage
property or unduly inconvenience a resident of
premises;i think(i) will answer you question………
the reason we as a community (government) introduce laws is because someone hasn’t done the right thing….
do we want the “act” to keep growing to protect people, or should we take responsiblity ourselves?you must be looking at the wrong chart
whats it general trend over 10 years????
there you go rewing
all to do with timing
why buy when its negative?
well the markets definitely heading south in melbourne, according to the numbers in sunday paper
melb metro Median 2004 /370k..2005 /360k
if you bought a year ago and sold told you would have lost 26khad you bought BHP shares for same period you would have made $185k……
If you bought 5 years ago Median 251k
sold today, (no maintance costs) profit 84k…BHP profit 441Klooks like the cycles working well for shares at the moment….
and looks like minings got anought good year ahead, aws long as china keeps buyinglooks like everyone’s migrated over to somersoft
same regulars over there
like the pictures as wellHi jimmc
a recording studio?????
now thats creative, not many of those around….
does it make a good return??