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    Originally posted by pleong:

    4×2

    1 x lounge
    1 kitchen & dinning
    1 x master
    3 x other rooms (extra)

    So that’s six? What’s the 4×2 mean?

    each sensor cost $80

    I haven’t bought any for quite a while, but I think at that price they should be reasonable quality.

    As I mentioned though, I wouldn’t bother with so many myself, especially not at $80 each. Only a fairly determined burgler will break in if they see the siren outside and thus know you have an alarm system installed. And if they’re that determined, they’ll probably move around the house enough to trigger a sensor anyway. After all, they could’ve triggered one the moment they broke in, unless they happened to know where you had them.

    Still, that’s just my opinion. One in every room will obviously improve the chances of a burgler triggering the system.

    Make sure you get at least one screamer though. All the sensors in the world are no good if nothing much happens once they triggered.

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    Originally posted by pleong:

    the std alarm with only 3 sensors

    How many sensors in total is every room?

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    Jeff,

    Originally posted by Ibuycashflow:

    Is this man the reknowned “Dolf de Roos” who has never had to work for wages in his life?

    Yes, that’s him.

    Although I’m not entirely sure about his claim. While back then the government paid for pretty much your whole university education, most students worked during the holidays or part time during the year to get some extra spending money. I don’t know about him though. He might have had a scholarship or something, or another source of funds.

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    JetDollars,

    Originally posted by JetDollars:

    I am planning to get a line of credit for share trading in the near future.

    You’re going to start trading on margin? You must be confident [:)].

    Cheers,
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    Pleong,

    Personally I have both on my PPoR in Sydney. As the others have mentioned, bars can be a personal safety hazard in the event of a fire, as can deadlocks if they’re locked while at home (there was a news item about this recently where some deaths during a fire were blamed on deadlocks being locked).

    When we had the bars installed, we had small “doors” made in them outside each opening bedroom window. These doors are locked with dead bolts, with each person having a key on their keyring (they’re all keyed-alike). This was to allow an escape path if fire prevented anyone reaching a normal door at night. As a further safety precaution, we have a smoke detector in the hallway just outside the bedroom doors and another in the lounge room.

    We also have deadbolts on all the windows, a requirement for contents insurance.

    The alarm system I installed myself, as I work for a company that manufactures them (although they’re not normally for residential premises). If you don’t have back-to-base monitoring, you need to consider not only the placement of sensors, but also what it’s going to do if it detects an intruder. The standard things are turn on an outside siren and flashing strobe and internal piezo-screamers.

    In my opinion, sirens are of minimal use, as most people ignore them anyway (but it depends on your neighbours) and you can only operate them for about 10 minutes. The internal screamers are much better, as they prevent an intruder being able to hear anything – specifically if anyone is coming.

    In my house, I do have a siren and strobe (if nothing else it shows that the house does have an alarm system – although you can also buy fake ones – so it should be clearly visible from the road), and a couple of internal screamers and PIRs (sensors). You don’t really need sensors in every room. Many cheap home alarm systems only come with one or two, and in fact I only have two in my house (although a third in the back porch covering the back door). You just want to place them in positions that give the best coverage – like the loungeroom where your TV, etc. is and a hallway covering the bedroom doors. While every room might be better, it’s only going to cost you more in sensors.

    One thing to look at is the quality of the sensors. Cheap ones will tend to give a lot of false alarms, making your siren even more useless (boy who cried wolf thing). The better (but more expensive) ones have multiple sensors in them. I have what are known as dual-tech ones, with an infra-red and a microwave sensor, but there are also some that have multiple infra-red sensors.

    If I had to choose just one or the other, I’d probably go the alarm system too, especially since it’s cheaper. As well as bars being unsightly and potentially dangerous, they won’t stop determined burglers. Some time ago a house in Sydney got burgled and they broke in after bending the window bars to make enough space.

    The main things with the alarm system though are:

    – Get reasonable sensors to avoid too many false alarms. There is nothing worse with an alarm system. I think fewer good sensors is far better than cheap ones in every room.

    – Position the sensors to give the best coverage of the most important areas. Their height and angle are also important, as they don’t work well in certain situations (eg. facing towards large windows or where motion is directly towards or away from the sensor). The installer should know that though. If you allow pets, you can get sensors that have pet guards which prevent cats and dogs triggering them.

    – Get an internal screamer or two (depending on the size of the house).

    – Make sure the external siren, if you get one, is clearly visible from the road. It’s as much a visual deterrent as anything.

    But if you want the best deterrent of the lot, get a tenant with a big dog! [:)]

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers,
    GP

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    SPT,

    As we are relatively new to property investing (10 months)

    Well you’re 10 months ahead of me at the moment!

    Looks like you’ve thought about your goals and got yourself a plan, which is good.

    Good luck with it!

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    Muppet,

    I wonder if this means there might be some renovator’s delights on the market soon? [:)]

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    Yack,

    Thanks for your comments.

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    Yack,

    Originally posted by yack:

    am waiting for future opportunities that will arise over the next 2-3 years.

    So when these opportunities arise, do you think you’ll increase your gearing or stay at about the same as now?

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    Jo,

    I have recently purchased 2 new IPs

    So you bought them outright too (ie. no finance)?

    I have 5 degrees in total (2 undergrads), an Honours, Masters and the PhD

    If bachelors, honours, and masters count separately, then I have three [:)].

    Couldn’t handle a PhD though. One friend I was at university with started a PhD then dropped out and joined the Salvation Army. Another did his PhD but then went on to become perhaps NZ’s most well-known property guru. I took the middle line and ended up working within my field of study (electrical engineering).

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    Jo,

    So are you still buying at the moment (I vaguely remember a thread not so long ago where you said you’d just bought a couple more)?

    If so, what percentage equity are you using with current purchases?

    GP

    PS: What’s your Ph.D in, if you don’t mind my asking?

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    WallFlower,

    Earthquakes are common, but huge ones are not (although still far more common than in Australia).

    Floods are relatively common in some areas too. The lower North Island had big floods earlier this year and now the BOP’s having them.

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    I’m not an accountant, but from my understanding…

    Your basic choices are your own name, a partnership, a company, and a trust. Generally speaking, trusts are recommended for a combination of reasons including asset protection, flexibility, and tax advantages.

    You can get some information about these things from the following Websites:

    http://www.taxlegal.com.au
    http://www.strategicwealth.com.au/e2content.asp?Request=Structure.Structure

    Companies are usually NOT a good choice for holding appreciating assets as you lose the 50% CGT discount available to individuals (and via trusts).

    If you want to read up on trusts, Nick Renton’s book called “Family Trusts” is very good. The latest edition was only published a few months ago.

    Dale Gatherum-Goss also has a book called “Trust Magic” which you can order from his Website:

    http://www.gatherumgoss.com

    It’s significantly more expensive than Renton’s book but is more directly applicable to property investing. It also covers hybrid trusts, which Renton’s book doesn’t much.

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    Originally posted by JetDollars:

    You will do better if you ignore all the politician…just don’w vote for any of them

    I never do [baaa].

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    Originally posted by muppet:

    Didn’t know that there were 130 houses in Tokoroa.

    That was my first thought on reading your message.

    Perhaps they were bought site unseen and some avid entrepreneur sold him or her the same 10 houses 13 times [biggrin].

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    I don’t know if there’s any medical agreement between Australia and NZ or not. You could probably find out from a travel agent.

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    Craig,

    Assuming your friends are not family members, you could perhaps look at some type of unit trust, where the rights of each person are fixed by the units they buy.

    As well as searching this forum, search the Somersoft forum at http://www.somersoft.com.

    And for an overview of trusts in general, a couple of good books are Dale Gatherum-Goss’s “Trust Magic” at http://www.gatherumgoss.com and Nick Renton’s “Family Trusts”. The latest version of Renton’s book was only published a few months ago.

    Ultimately you’ll need to see a good accountant, but I think reading up on the topic yourself first is highly beneficial.

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    Originally posted by kay henry:

    I am pretty disorganised

    I think of disorganised as being like one of the senior guys at work. He’d travel overseas for a few months on business and when he returned and the company accountant asked for an expense report, he’d just dump a shopping bag full of receipts on his desk.

    The accountant was not amused of course, but then it took very little to not amuse him. He was so strict in requiring receipts that you could always tell employees from our company at any business function: we were the ones scrounging through the rubbish bins looking for discarded receipts [:D]

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    There are heaps of good movies, but to list a few favourites:

    Of more recent times I’d say Shrek, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Chicago, Moulin Rouge (I love good musicals), and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

    For older movies the list is pretty big, but say Butch Cassidy & Sundance, The Sting, The Good/Bad/Ugly, 2001 Space odyssey, Clockwork Orange, Rocky Horror, Cabaret, Casablanca, Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf, American Graffiti, and of course Monty Python’s Holy Grail and Life of Brian!

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