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    Ouyen, an hour from Mildura, was mainly an agricultural town, but then the mining became a feature for the town..

    http://www.iluka.com/?page=mbsexpressions

    http://www.mildura.vic.gov.au/page/page.asp?page_id=1632

    Refer back to the Median Growth for last decade info, but I think it, (Ouyen) has shown 6.7% growth p/a.
     
    There has been investors buying and renting since the mining info came to light. Again, maybe go and check out Mildura and Ouyen, talk to folk. See for yourself? Nice places, nice communities.

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    Below is a link to Victorian Median House Prices, (courtesy of Heraldsun newspaper, via Victorian Valuer-General; 1997-2008):

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/files/median%20house%20prices%20by%20suburb.pdf

    It shows what the median house price was for most towns/cities/suburbs across Victoria, from 1997 to 2007. It also shows the Growth Per Annum, between 1997 -2007.

    Dimboola has been 7.2%

    Moe, 9.2%

    Dimboola has, or did have a lot of rail workers, being a main railway town for the rail to Adelaide, drought is still well and truly rolling through many parts of Victoria, plus what happens to a relatively small town like "Dimmy" if rail services are cut, (eg train drivers). Having said that it does seem to get people wanting to rent there, don't forget Horsham is nearby. It is a catchment area for the region, a relatively thriving, nice little rural city with good infrastructure and services, (eg education, health, shopping).

    http://www.hrcc.vic.gov.au/

    Check out the 2040 Plan:

    http://www.hrcc.vic.gov.au/main.cfm?categoryid=9&contentfile=topic

    Why not take a trip up there?

    The Wimmera is a nice place to visit if nothing else, and don't forget the Grampians/Gariwerd National Park and Mt Arapiles are nearby too.

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    …and as a point of trivia:

    http://www.ouyenvanillaslice.com.au/index.htm

    Today:

    The Great Australian Vanilla Slice Triumph

    5 September 2008


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    Six IP's and some land..controlling/managing over a million dollars worth of real estate. Buying as well as can be, a little add on value, (with some of them), spit and polish, refurbishments and rent them out. Also built a couple.

    It has been an incredible journey, far from over yet, and having heaps of fun and meeting great characters.

    All the IP's are in regional cities and towns, mainly because opportunity, the deal and my knowledge, (of these places),  is the drawcard.

    I never dreamt how much of the world, opportunity and people would open up and be so helpful, just the biggest learning curve of my life.

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     I happen to have 1994 median house price for Sunshine: $84,500, also, the 2004: $240,000, so that is a change of  growth of  184%. It only has the "house" data, note that it doesn't have unit info..

    I got the 1994-2005 growth figures from a friend who had got them also from Heraldsun, basically a reporter just did a story and featured change in growth prices a few years ago, much like the paper did with the current statistics.

    The figures are all from the Victorian Valuer General statistics.

    This link should help you pinpoint getting the Valuer General statistics:

    http://www.land.vic.gov.au/Land/lcnlc2.nsf/childdocs/-418EED712A81C5AE4A256A0A0015CDC1-26C8409B2467569D4A256A0A001DAC6F-4FF5582EDD1DD6B9CA256E5F0014C0EE?open

    In particular, (excerpt from this link site):

    I require median prices over the last 10 years. Is this information available?

    Yes, this information is available for through Property Information and Sales for subscribers via LANDATA®.

    Where can I research trends, property prices and forecasts of residential, commercial, industrial and rural property sales statistics?

    Through Online Services Property Sales Information (PRISM) for registered subscribers. To subscribe, contact Landata on (03) 8636 2456 or email [email protected]

    Where can I purchase the publication “A Guide to Property Values”?

    You can order your copy on-line or email [email protected] or phone (03) 8636 2456.

    Can I access information on the Internet about the Annual Property Sales Statistics Publication?

    The Guide to Property Values is the most comprehensive and authoritative reference for all types of property prices including residential, commercial, industrial and rural. This annual publication shows property statistics across Victoria, which is produced using data obtained from Valuer-General Victoria, is available in hardcopy, CD or PDF format.

    The guide contains many statistics tables and graphs, including 1985-2007 sales volumes and median and mean prices by local government areas/municipalities; 1996-2007 for suburb/township, 1985-2006 for number and total value sales for all residential, industrial and commercial transactions in rural and metropolitan areas.

    Also, I have noticed this site, haven't used or bought anything, but looks to have interesting info:

    http://www.propertyvalue.com.au/faq.php

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    Costa, this may be of interest.

    Was in the local Victorian newspaper and linked to this site; (courtesy Heraldsun):

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/files/median%20house%20prices%20by%20suburb.pdf

    Is a breakdown of Victorian, metro and rural towns, suburbs and cities of changes in house prices the last decade.

    Also, if you would name the few places you might like a little older info, eg 1994 median prices, courtesy of Victrian Valuer General I will list them up here, or PM me…it is in paper form and I can't get the figures up via a link..

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    Congratulations Melissa, I have read this months API…my thoughts are you are an inspirational young woman for all people! and especially other young females. I love the bit about taking things into your own hands in regards to placing the to rent ad. Made me smile.

    The delayed gratification on the travelling issue, is so true, when you decide to choose your travelling time, you can do at your own pace, funded by you and as you say, with the more disposable income.

    That decision wouldn't have been easy, but to your credit! Gotta say also, you live at such a beautiful part of Australia….consider that an achievement in itself. :)

    Hey, forgive my ignorance, but what is a pole home?

    Just so happy for you and thankyou for sharing your journey so far, simply amazing, (and good on your Mum too).

    We started our property investing journey a little later in life and I am totally in awe of relatively young people taking the leap, just having the mindset, the determination, a little lateral thinking, just fantastic. Truly.

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    2008 !

    Time has flown.
     
    I still have the Pajero, reliable, relatively economical, (towing vehicle).

    Still under warranty, and  it is a nice handling, easy to drive 4wd.

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    Nice thought processes Millions :)

    Be careful with the horse agistment bit, especially if in built up area.
    They require secure and safe stock fencing, and just because a horse is a pony (smaller type) doesn’t mean it can’t/wont bite, cause harm, kick etc. They are a flight animal and sometimes you would be surprised what may cause them disturbance.

    Here in Victoria there have been several sad and tragic (but preventable) incidents involving horses breaking out of inadequate fencing/containment areas and running into traffic and people, the last couple of incidents the consequences were fatal for the car drivers and horses.

    I do consider it important you are aware of this, yes, it may be unlikely but just so you know…also I am not real sure on varying Councils take on livestock agistment…it only takes one person to report or complain…

    I do wish you well, transportable house(s), sound great, especially if a demand for rental properties, after all you have your land for “free”…umm, also ? a couple of shipping containers with locks, we have found them to be excellent storage (cheap) buildings.

    Best of luck…and remember, some of the cutest, cuddly dear little ponies can inflict nasty bites or kicks to children…experience and education with any equine is so important, as is their husbandary and containment.

    Sam

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    Regional cities have been good investing for us [exhappy]

    Are you following the Murray River Mollymonsta!?

    http://www.growmilduraregion.com.au

    http://www.smedb.com.au

    http://www.swanhillonline.com (check out business network)

    We also have built and bought in Bendigo, Horsham, would like to build or buy in Warrnambool, Ballarat, Shepparton, Wodonga…they all serve as strong catchment areas for the surrounding towns, have great infrastructure, solid demand for rental properties, and solid growth gains in house prices…especially over the last decade. Apart from that they are really pleasant cities to visit and live in (yes I have spent time in them). A worthy consideration of lifestyle outside the Melbournes/Sydneys and Geelongs of the world.

    Sam

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    It may not even have to be anything complicated either Francis..

    Meaning a paint job can work wonders, inside or exterior…maybe add an airconditioning system if you want to hold the property and rent it….tidy up the garden/yard…if it’s possible add a bedroom on, especially if it’s only a one or two bedroom place.

    So you can value add to improve potential rental returns or wish to resell…maybe a place doesn’t have any garage…outdoor entertainment area…some we can do ourselves, but like the others very mindful of leaving work for the professionals where necessary.

    The November 2006 copy of Australian Property Investor magazine has a good guide to renovations and their ballpark figures on costings…it’s quite interesting, and they did it with the help of Archicentre Cost Guide Aug 2006…just keep in mind prices are going up all the same though.

    Such is life.[biggrin]

    Sam

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    Perhaps not so experienced and definitely still learning[exhappy]

    Books:

    “Rich Dad Poor Dad”…R. Kiyosaki
    it was like hello world! there is a different life out there apart from spending and woo hooing every red cent that came into my mitts….I took stock and worked on creating a different mindset. A generalised account on paper of how you think is what you get and are…

    “From 0 to 130 Properties in 3.5 Years”….S McKnight
    Then I bought this book, an Aussie guy doing it and told his story, good for me because it told practical stuff and what was going through his mind on things….and Ballarat was my backyard…he set by example!

    “Building Wealth Story by Story””… Jan Somers
    More information, and this time it was like being in a room full of people who had successfully invested in property…yet all differently….so different the people and stories, but the outcome was [biggrin]

    Apart from that I have read many other property and wealth creation, self development books, you name it I have probably read it, so much knowledge and experience and inspiration to be gleaned…it is a wonderful time of my life I am having.

    Sam

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    Hi Tizzy

    Re the vinyl wrap doors I will put up a link to some info that may help you in your decision…

    http://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?p=4001

    Sam

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    G’day Sweet and Samjames
    Horsham Victoria is still providing the odd good return..We have a couple [housing comm homes] ..
    1. Purchased $89990 renting @ $140
    2. Purch. $90000 rents for $145
    We are happy with them. Not all our properties are this type though, have others in other places, [newly constructed}, so we sort of spread things around a bit.
    I don’t know if this one is still on the market [assuming it is] but cannot see why this property would not rent for around the $140 ish…it has been on the market for a while, last I heard it was a $95000 asking price.
    http://www.wesdavidson.com.au click the $0 to $100,000
    click Horsham and then search…should be the only one to come up they have $99,000 on it..
    Do your own due diligence on it though, naturally..For our 2 x housing comm homes we got 90% funding. We only have pre approval for $81,000 at moment or we would buy this as well.
    Regards

    Sam

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    G’day Dematio
    How did you go with the storms? floods? or whatever nature’s fury hit there? [Broken Hill I mean..] Are your properties ok?

    Sam

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    JTW did you know the word Pajero is apparently the Spanish slang for “wanker”… yep, we have a Wanker too [diesel]… to tow float, which it does superbly.
    When Mitsubishi went to release the Pajero in Europe a little bit of name changing occurred.
    Nonetheless we happily drive our horses around towed by a Wanker… I mean Pajero.

    Sam

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    Jeez, us giving just one good tip…this could be dangerous.. Seriously, we got out of our “comfort zone”, the world doesn’t owe us anything, but we owe it to ourselves to get off our bums and have a go… We had a go in property because it for us, gives us maximum leverage on little contribution,… the bit of money we had went a long way to us getting 3 properties.[Working on more..]… we looked, listened, learned and acted….How did we go, not really one tip is it?

    Sam

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    Robert
    I was just having a saunter around the property sites, [in between writing assignments], found this thread… do you know what I reckon… head south a bit..”Harness Racing Victoria” A really progressive industry, fantastic people from all walks of life, [in my opinion you don’t necessarily need to have had a hand on a horse… there are enough of those folk already]… you can be passionate about an industry and your job but not need to live eat breath it… There must be some diabetics in the lollies and cake industry right? It is structured Executive/Marketing/Finance and Administration/Moonee Valley/Integrity/Planning and Development. Within all that there are the Manangers/Assist. Managers so on …
    Vic. is the place to be, no point being the arm or leg, go to the heart of the matter. Did you ever hear of Peter V’Landy’s former head of NSW Harness Racing, controversial guy to many, but sold/worked his product well.
    John Anderson is the guy that is CEO at HRV http://www.harness.org.au
    Did you know that racing is the third biggest industry in Australia..[next to mining/sheep]…In my humble opinion, the thoroughbred industry … even though it is huge, is like the beautiful big mansion, sooner or later there are too many rooms to utilise, costs a fortune to upkeep and not that many who can afford to be in it….[the industry]…. The greyhounds, doing great, has a market, but in the end… well it ain’t horses!! limited fan base. Harness Racing has the greatest potential for growth/ has challenges to reach that growth, it is the nice 3 b/r house in inner suburbs and rural cities [equivalent],…. much more people can afford it because it has wider financial and family hands on appeal…From what we have heard of you Robert, the fire and passion is there… HRV and Sire of Melton are in the throws of working at establishing/developing a multi million dollar harness racing centre…at Melton… all very exciting… seriously if you have a background in real estate/finance… couldn’t that be used in virtually any industry? Anyway, see what you think, Regards from Pam and Red.

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    Indigo100
    12 months ago we were able to get an ANZ Money Saver Investment Loan..[was 6.47% then..], it was 97% LVR, I think the LMI was rolled into the loan [the Mortgage Brokers would know that for certain], and the loan was for $71,000..an investment house. Birchip, Victoria. Population 1000 people, 1,000,000 rabbits.
    Red.

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    G’day JPD

    Lucerne, lucerne, lucerne…
    Dryland lucerne, or if you are on irrigation…. irrigation lucerne. We live in a great little dustbowl, just going through a ripping 8 year on/off drought, and the one thing that is still standing, keeping the sahara paddocks green and feed growing for our horses is lucerne. Seriously it has been great for the sandy soil, it is a really hardy plant, quite nutritious for horses, and if you have any reasonable kind of rainfall, [we average 10 inches a year]… but certainly have NOT had anywhere near that precipitation here last 8 years… yet the old lucerne [where it is sown, naturally], is like a noxious weed almost!! We only have to have a heavy dew on it sometimes…your partner will know or know where to get the right sort of lucerne for your land type… sow it in, lightly graze or no grazing for 12 months, to let it get established…[that might stuff up your plans?]… then rotate those beautiful horses around to your hearts content… 2 points; 14 acres does sound a bit small, [could you lease some extra land?], and $25 a week is too cheap, don’t do that to yourselves…
    Good luck to you both, and we love people that love horses! Regards, Pam and Red.
    P.S Watch out for the little bug things that eat it at a certain stage, chat to an agronomist re; ensuring establishment successfully.

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