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    60 k profit…
    but have you counted the cost?

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    Richard

    "…over $1M they start to quicker a little "… do you mean ANZ or small lender..
    But you can get better rates with > 1million

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    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI#chart2:symbol=^dji;range=5y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined

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    Aussie… can you tell me when GFC happen?

    I am not comparing to PEAK of ALL ORDS… (i.e. all time high)
    GFC did NOT happen when ALL ORDS hit the peak

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    I like ANZ breakfree… but their interest is not as competitive (6.94%) vs. NAB choice package (6.77%)

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    melbournite wrote:
    My two cents worth… whenever there is talk about whether Australian property prices are in a bubble, those with vested interests always say we are not in a bubble, so prices will just stagnate at worst (best?).  If we are in a bubble though, a bubble by definition has to pop at some stage.  The bubble should have burst years ago, and would have burst years ago if the government had not interfered and propped up the bubble, sending it ever higher.  Whenever I talk to friends about the housing bubble here, they look at me as though I'm talking gibberish, or come up with all the usual reasons why prices will stay high e.g. increasing population, foreign buyers, increased demand, higher wages etc.  The thing is, that anyone who bought in the last ten years or before, has done very well, better than they could ever have dreamed!  However, for anyone wanting to get into the property market, if properties continue to double every seven to ten years, then the average price will be $1million dollars soon.  That means that if someone can save a deposit of say, $100,000 then they would have to take out a mortgage of $900,000, plus costs!  Are wages going to go that high in the next few years?  OK, if you already have a property and sell it, then you could buy, with a much smaller mortgage.  But what about the investors – to make it a worthwhile investment, rents would have to increase to levels which are unaffordable.  But, if real estate doesn't go up, then what will be the incentive to buy once investors work out that they could get a much greater return elsewhere?   So, it makes sense that this bubble has to burst.  The government, of course will never touch on this.  They may mouth about making housing affordable, but in order to do so, prices have to come down.  If prices do come down, then perceived wealth falls, and then jobs have to be lost, leading us into recession, and of course no government wants to be one to cause or lead us into recession, and no home-owner wants to see the price of their real estate fall either.  So it is in their interest to push up the bubble, whether it means opening the floodgates wider to foreign buyers, more immigrants, more grants etc.  I might sound as though I'm contradicting myself somewhat, but what I'm saying is that we are obviously in a bubble, the bubble has to burst but the government will certainly try to do what they can to keep the bubble afloat for as long as possible.

    Well… the problem is
    60% of home loan held by only top 20% of income earners

    The argument using median house price and median income… does NOT reflect the current market in Australia.

    You could NOT stratified using the basic statistic… I think we need some education how to use statistic

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    AussieHousePrices wrote:
    god_of_money wrote:
    The facts ARE
    All Ords went back to pre GFC level in 18 months
    DOW went back to pre GFC level in less than 18 months

    No they didn't.  In fact, they still haven't recovered to pre GFC levels.

    Please tell me the FACT… not just… "they didn't"

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    We have INFACT HAD A correction… Sydney property price has been stagnant for the last 6-7 years…. and started to climb last year…but 40% drop.. ?????

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    Can someone PLEASE  explain to me  about double recession, stock market will never recover; long recession, aussie bank went bankrupt,  etc bull crapt doom and loom?

    The facts ARE

    All Ords went back to pre GFC level in 18 months
    DOW went back to pre GFC level in less than 18 months

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    Richard

    Can you have the loan document as

    XXX Family Trust only (as a stand alone – not using ATF)

    instead of

    <personal name> ATP XXX Family Trust

    I was being told that it offers better protection than 'ATF'?

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    you still can get NAB choice package for 6.77%. Anyone got better rates. nab can offer 1% below variable rates.

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    Has anyone got any issue re: finance with ANZ?? Just for curiosity

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    ASX is back to pre – GFC 2008 level
    DOW is back to pre- GFC level few months ago
    Where is the CRASH? double recession etc….

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    crusty wrote:
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    ANZ Breakfree Package = 6.94%

    ANZ might have low rates, but can be very costly as they are  the hardest bank to get new finance from if you want to snap up those bargains. Saving a few measly dollars in interest can cost you  hunreds of thousands in lost  opportunities You need a bank you can ring up and say I need  X dollars to buy Such and such and get the answer the next day and honour their commitment.

    I don't have problem refinance with ANZ. I just borrowed more from my existing equity early last year and there was no problem at all.

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    ANZ Breakfree Package = 6.94%

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    Have anyone tried to get ANZ to waive the Breakfree package???

    Please let me know.. keen to price match

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    Auction clearance in Sydney ~70% this weekend… up from December 50%… but there is NO BIG NEWS…
    if auction clearance dropped to <50%… Doom and Loom… starting from Fairfax again..
    No wonder.. Fairfax FXJ… tanked for the last 3 years time… (lucky didn't buy any FXJ shares)

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    Richard is not an accountant.
    He is a mortgage broker and/or financial planner

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    the crest,

    My friends are using Prosperity.. and they are OK…
    'Cruther and Naele' has some good feedback… go to their website.. make an appointment with them…

    I use Nick Parras (Parras Associates) for my accounting.. as he is dealing with medico all the time..
    I use him to structure my medical practice; but he has a very good grasp on property as well..

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    http://www.smh.com.au/business/housing-finance-grows-faster-than-expected-20110214-1assa.html

    Housing finance grows faster than expected

    No space for comments @ smh… surprise surpise.. housing finance is collapsing, credit crisis, affordability, price to income ratio…etc…where are all the gurus of economics??
    Infact.. the housing finance is keep going up and up and up….. 4.8% increase in Sydney.. :)

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