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CBA or Adelaide bank will do this type of security!
Why don't you do a JV with the current owner that way you save on stamps? You pay the costs to hold & reno costs and spilt the end result via a percentage.
For me I believe 10% – 15% to be a low return on investment when others are offering 25%+.
Good luck
Cap B wrote:They mortgage insure all loans.
Have high set up fees.
Have high exit fees.
The rates are not as stable as the banks.
They pay high commission.Not sure who what works for. Actually I am sure. The Broker!
<moderator: delete language>. Firstmac have been very competitive in the marketplace for a very very long time. They are QLD based, very well set up, well backed and have previously offered some ridiculously low rates through the GFC like 2.99% fixed for 12 months. There set up fees are pretty standard with the banks once you put all the add-ons into the equation, sure there exit fees are higher over the first 4 years but this is to mitigate client turnover so they can borrow their money at a better rate…
I would love to see where the broker benefits from this as its certainly not reflected in their commissions.
Couple more for you guys.
These guys are predominately associated with commercial finance front however i'm sure they would do smaller loans as well.
Recently we have had the delight of dealing with a company called Finance Solutions Australia (FSA) through a recommendation. Scott Wyllie is the main front for this organisation whom i am confident he has been bankrupt before and is running the business under his wifes name Amanda Wyllie to get around the legalities (I have the company extract to confirm).
We were advised by Scott that he and his team (listed below) are able to source funds overseas for development projects at competitive interest rates. After he convinced 5 of my clients including myself and quite a number of other clients from the referring parties, fees were paid an offer received for our loans. *n.b. These funds were 100% refundable which to this day we are still waiting for approximately 45k which has been outstanding since November 2010.After this we handed over all of our information to Scott whom was dealing with an Anand Sharma or Sharmar T/A Real Estate Finance & putting his name to Golden Link Investment Corp Holdings Pty Ltd whom have a registered office in Summer Hill NSW & are operating from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia is when our eyes opened.
It took 3 months to get us full approvals of which the indicative interest rates went from 8% – 9.75% to a whopping 22%pa plus a large fee to be paid into an overseas banking account.
I warn anyone out there if you are have had or are having dealings or thinking about using them at all please be advised to be EXTREMELY CAREFUL on all levels. <moderator: delete personal comment>
Matt,
Give me a call tomorrow i know of a cracker of a site up there right now for sale and would love to employ the services of a chap like this.
Cheers
Good find. I have used BMT on numerous occasions before they are usually spot on!
In this market with the amount of good deals around, if your not achieving around 30% NP its not worth it. To work off 20% or less is really disaster in the making. Things always come up and your margins will always move so you need to have a good amount of buffer in it!
Buy right, develop the right product and you will reap the rewards..
Mate tread carefully, property developers are not stupid.
Everything is priced on a square meter rate and you need to make sure you are paying the right money for the project and that you can make a minimum of 20% on the back end once all sold off.
Too many times have we seen people go in and purchase a project way over the real price and do there ass in on it.
Find a Thai resident and set up a company to purchase in with them. Effectively if you purchase as an investor/non resident you can only purchase crown land i.e. you will only own 49% of the property as the King will control the difference and will be given back after 99 years, aka like a crown lease.
Ummm RP Data is shit…
PDS live is so much better, easier to use and updated regularly…
Investorarm,
What is the status of your project? Do you have CC? Have you marketed to start selling off the plan? Is it viable to be building right now? When does the DA run out?
We have access to funds whom will allow you to borrow the building costs with no presales but you will need the following:
- Good exit strategy
- Good builder
- GMP in place
- Good project managers
You must understand most aussie banks will now require 110% presales of the full debt coverage and are only lending to experienced developers.
Boogz great thread, options are great fun … Matt excellent information and advice.
Boogz just because your situation may leave you in a position not to do anything currently, find someone whom is in a position to do something (cash'd up friend/family/investor) whom doesnt know these terms or is risk adverse and utilise your experience/knowledge to give you both a return. You may loose out on some profit but the phrase "50% of something is better than 100% of nothing" is something i will die by!
As Matt said there are tonnes of developers out there sitting on small and large developments due to lenders, i would say that if you are going to commit to an option agreement/development i would personally see it through to the end. DO your research, make sure you give the vendor something they CANNOT refuse as this is the 'real life' perspective of getting these deals done!
Lastly if your going to go down this path, ALWAYS have an exit strategy in place NO MATTER WHAT!
Enjoy
Hi Kaylon,
I'm not too sure what size of project you are looking at doing, but there are a few things to consider.
The usual set up is with an entity – a unit trust and company as the trustee for the greatest protection. With any development the lenders will require pre-sales unless you have additional equity to use. Australian banks want blood! They will only currently lend 50% on land and 80% on construction costs and required enough pre-sales in place to cover the total debt inclusive of interest. This makes it very difficult for developers to go forward. However there is light! Overseas and local private funders we use allow greater flexibility for developments lending up to 70% on the land and 100% construction with only 50% pre sales.
Within regards to tax this is a tricky one. All developers look at the best structures to reduce tax via their accountant. For instance sake, we take units instead of profit as we only have to pay stamp duty on the transfers (from company to personal trusts) rather than GST, capital gains, company/trust tax and personal tax. You also need to discuss if it is worth while going on the margin tax scheme etc depending on size of the project.
*If your happy to travel to the south west of Sydney, i can highly recommend my accountant Peter Hawketts of Hawketts Accounting on 02 4677 0361. Mention I sent you, but please be patient as he is stupidly busy at this time but well worth the wait!
The next biggest part of any development is your consultants. YOU MUST HAVE THE BEST team around you at all times no matter of the costs, as this team can save hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars in the long run. Again if you want some help with whom to speak to, drop me an email and i will give you their details…
The last thing i would like to say is be prepared to take a hit somewhere down the track. All developers take one at some stage in their career is just a matter of how hard you get hit and how early you detect it that makes the biggest difference. When you do, make sure you get up and keep going as this is the type of tenacity it takes to hold the line and achieve your dreams.
Wish you the best of luck
Dreamteam,
I don't know your income details, asset protection setup or what your investment strategy is, but if it were me I would look at borrowing up to 80% on both properties and using the equity to better advance yourself – i.e.
Total value 1.25 x 80% = 1m
1m – 600k (total existing mortgage) = 400kThis leaves approx 400k to either purchase another property that is positively geared to offset the other 2 or purchase a house to live in, rent an purchase a couple more investments and leave 100k in a working account etc etc etc the list goes on…
AGAIN everyone's situation is different and all the facts are not clearly presented, this is only an example!
MrsC,
If it is a standard style & measurements of an L Shape kitchen, then you might want to go round to second hand places and auction houses as you can pick up some really good stuff at fraction of the price. Friends of ours were renovating their place and picked up a secondhand kitchen for $600 including some appliances at an auction house in Sydney and had his father fit it.
It pays to do your research.
I love extended settlement periods, it allows you to be more flexible with your portfolio… Never have any problems with market trends/variations if you buy right to start with!
That's how most of us started. You have to be very committed every day of the week not just after hours. You might start by doing the research online and find a value add for a developer to take you on board as a 'lacky' so to speak!
It is a very competitive market, requires a great deal of patience, knowledge, creativity, stress, cost and above all TIME. Don't expect to just do a few months worth of work and think your a developer it may take many years. Expect to take a hit (loss) somewhere along the way also unfortunately this will be your greatest lesson. I believe there is a development course you can do now also at uni which wasn't around when i started.
But if you are truly passionate about becoming a developer and really want it, no amount of NO's will stop you achieving your goal!
Regards,
Best advice get an equity partner (cash man) involved if you have limited funds available. You can borrow up to 75% via a first and second mortgage but it has to be a very strong deal!
How big is the subdivision you are doing?
Most of the majors will allow you to borrow up to 80% if it is 4 units or less on single title.
Well said barnard888
Bruce, living on the sunny coast myself i know your pain with Sunshine Coast Regional Council. Get acquainted and very comfortable with PD Online http://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/sitePage.cfm?code=pd-online this is a tool you need to know how to use backwards, some of the council staff are really helpful also!
You really need to set a strategy/plan for yourself as to where you want to start, what area, how big, why etc etc. Expect Sunshine coast council to take between 3 – 6 months for a code assessable application, 6 – 12 months for an impact assessable application and up to 2 years for anything way outside the box… Also expect to pay handsomely on the S94 Council Contributions of between 18 – 30k per unit!
Personal experience has taught me that you have to give the council a reason/benefit as to why your project is worthwhile approving! Also staying just within the boundaries (grey area) negates the need to advertise thus no objections.
If you would like to have a chat or coffee, feel free to give me a call.
Richard, agreed and also if you have a direct relationship with the bank.
Also agree with the 95% LVR having no issues with the deals. They have to be strong servicing deal though before the bank will sign off on them!
Cheers,