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    Hi Mel,

    Have run a few small businesses over the years i wouldn't see the decision small business veruses property investment but small business veruses working for someone else.  With any small business there will be hours that you will need to invest into it to make it sucessful. 

    If you buy the gym how many hours a week will you need to work?  Alot of  gyms will be open for about 90 hours a week, during the week the open early and close late to allow people to do work outs before work and after work.  The less hours you work the higher the wages bill.  The other thing to consider is no staff member will run YOUR business to the same level that you would do yourself.

    If you need to work 60 hours a week, and make $35k a year…doesn't really make for a good investment.  The other thing with running a small business is income isn't guaranteed.  Many people have started cancelling gym memberships due to increasing fuel prices and intrest rates.  This hurts when your costs of living increase but your income decreases as other people cut back on "luxuries".

    If you have an interest in property investing and are relying on income from a small business to fund loans it can be more dificult to get finance.  Banks will quite often look at a couple of years of financials, one bad year in business can affect borrowing power for the next couple of years.

    You may be better off staying in paid employment and then investing in property

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    Consider taking on a business partner

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    now that is the best solution

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    If you already own the assets the cheapest way would be to do a pre nup.  Most lawyers can do this for yourself and your partner, otherwise you can buy some forms off the internet and do it yourself.  Laws in each state vary, I think from memory here in WA once a couple have lived to together for 2 years then there assets are dealt with as 1 (unless pre nup is in place) before the 2 year mark for couples living together then its viewed at who owns the asset. This is then different again is the couple is married.

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    Richard,

    Its funny how you receive the offensive emails, yet you propbably have more money available to invest in property then many of the people targeted by the telemarketers.  Maybe they need to review their target audience

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    Richard,

    Maybe you should ask one of the many premium sales consultants on this forum for another pack to be sent out.  They seam to respond faster to posts on this site then emails and phone calls according to other posts.

    Kylie71 are you able to help Richard out???

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    if you have 10 x 1c shares if you sell 1 share you sell 10% of the company.  What you wont be able to do is sell 2.5 shares if you wish to sell a 25% share.

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    Even though you only require 1x $1 share, in case you wish to sell a portion of your company in the future you may be better having something like 100x $1 shares.  Saves filling in and paying for ASIC forms to modify the number of shares down the track.  Having 100 shares gives greater flexibility if you did want to sell anything off.  eg 5% to mum, 5% to dad and 25% to the girl friend

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    Yep every industry has them but unfortunately I think this industry attracks more due to the large sums of money that are dealt with.  As much as I would love to see payday lending cleaned up, the advantage for MB is whilst there is less regulation in pay day lending hopefully more shonky characters are attracted to that area and leave decent MB to clean up our part of the industry.  I think alot of people coming into this industry dont realise just how much work goes into learning about so many different products and how much reading is required to keep up to date with changes.  If you believe some companies you get paid thousands each day for typing some numbers into there "special" computer program and spend the rest of the day playing golf

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    I find alot of the pushy ones are that way cause they need to make so many sales/contacts per hour.  I dont give them the satisfaction on hanging up on them (it frees their time to move on to the next one)

    Instead I tell them that I'm interested but have someone at the door and to please hold.  If you are really bored come back after 3 minutes, reassure them you wont be to much longer and then go back to your dinner (since they always call when you are eatting)

    This way wasting their time annoys them a whole lot more then just hanging up

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    Hi Tess & Megan,

    I have recently I decided to become a broker.  My initial stop was lookin at the franchised guys (Refund Home Loans, Mortgage Choice, Smartline, etc)  These companys are charging $10-70k to get new brokers in.  Alot of new previous expirience and tellig the new comers the can make 6 figure incomes very easily without too much effort because you are using there name and systems.  Alot of people are getting into these and then struggling to make the level to live comfortably.  Although they are trained well in simple loan applications, as Richard mentions often the structuring loans when you have multiple properties is important, and many franchised brokers are unsure.

    I then went to a smaller aggregator who introduced me to one of their brokers after meeting myself.  The aggregator knew the broker well and thought we would be well matched.  I now have a highly expirienced broker as my mentor who I work for.  I figured for myself this is a better way to go as I get one on one guidance and advice, he is more interested in my progress as it helps his business (if I make mistakes it hurts his business).

    We both have the same views on customer service – its all about service.  In our earlier conversations we discussed simple things like honesty, doing what you promise, friendly, helpful, etc.  My background – I owned a pizza shop a few years ago and ran it for 8 years.  In the area I operated if you had no customer service skills you would have no business.  I had times I put alot of effort in, and lost money on some orders (where the customer was at fault) to keep the customer happy as I knew the importance of customer referrals.

    I think alot of problems that they come into this industry wanting to make millions (and getting promised that as well).  They are driven by money and they're not a people's person – this industry is all about dealing with people.  Franchise's measure the quality on how many applications get approved, not if they are structured correctly.

    There are some really good brokers out there, best way to find them is word of mouth and asking for referrals on here.  On finishing, there are some good franshised brokers who like the convienance of the franchised system.

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    In this day and age there is always a risk off being sued (maybe only a remote chance) even with an investment property.  Just a simple act of receiving a phone call from a tennant stating the smoke detector wasn't working.  A month goes by and it wasn't replaced.  The house is destroyed by fire and there is also loss of life…I would be wanting a legal structure to protect my assests.  The chances of this happening are small but the consquences quite large.

    Something off topic, many smoke detectors have a use by date which can lead them to not detecting a fire if they are old…wonder how many faulty dectors are being used in rental properties???

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    Chris,

    There was no negative comments for you choosing to invest in the property market, as many people in this forum believe it is one of the greatest areas to see an investment go well.  Alot of the initial comments were more related to the telemarketing of companies.  Recently there has been alot of advertising posts on this site from first time posters where they come more from salesman for the company then actual investors.

    From your origninal post it appears that you have been dealing with them for about 3 weeks and not sure if you or anyone else you know had known of this company prior to the telemarketer ringing you.  Many people on this forum will suggest when looking for a mortgage broker asking people who are already investing to recommend a broker that they have used before.  The first few weeks of dealing with a new company that is trying to sell you something should always smelly rosey as they are still trying to sell something.  Yes they will make it look like they are doing the best thing for you but they fail to mention just how much they profit from the deal.  It may not be until after you hand over the deposit, finalise the deal, go to the accountant at end of the FY or buy a 2nd IP that some investors may start to notice the lack of customer service or that the investment doesn't suit or that the finance wasn't setup correctly.

    Please don't take offence to the questions and comments made as most people on this forum want to help all other members benefit from investing in property.  But there are alot of people in the property industry more interested in filling their own pockets at other peoples expense. 

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    From my understanding a number of factors will be considered by lenders (depending on how well it is sold to them) with regards to temping.  You state that 3 years ago you had a permantent job, if the temping is in the same industry this is in your favour.  Also how consistent is the temping.  If you are a temp teacher or nurse and have consistently worked 5 days a week and this is likely to continue it would be looked at favourably.  If you are temping in a industry that only has a few shortages and demand for temps is inconsistent then lenders will find it hard to predict future income based on your previous years income. 

    Non conventional lenders are more then happy to look a wider range of situations, but depending on you situation some avenues may be available through the majors

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    With a P&I with each additional payment the ratio of interest/prinicple changes.  In the first year the majority of the repayment is interest.  What you can do is each year recalculate the difference between in IO and P&I and increase the principle payment into the offset account (this amount would equal the reduction in interest you are currently paying due to the increase balance in the offset).

    The method you used to calculate the figure of $1250 would achieve the desired effect of having $450K after 30years.  With the amount of interest you pay per month calculated at $3375, this would only be for the 1st months interest payment.  This figure would reduce each month as the offset account balance builds.  The problem with this is is you initial few years you will be paying alot more out of you pocket each month but in the long run you will save alot more interest payments

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    what a glowing endoresment from a first time poster.  maybe i should be spending more time talking with telemarketers

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    primary place of residence

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    Richard,

    Thanks for correcting my post

    Gibbo

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    Another option since you spend so much time away, and to still benefit from the FHOG and SD free purchase, is to buy a PPOR and lease a room or two out.  This way you get the financial benefits of a PPOR, your house wont be empty for 3 weeks/month – (hopefully if you find a trusted friend or gf they will take care of the place while you are away).  This will also provide some additionl income coming in.  With the income from leasing rooms out and your high wages you will be able to build up some equity quite fast.  Once you have that equity built up look at an IP.

    If the 1st place you buy is an IP you will loose FHOG and SD benefits for any purchase of a PPOR later on.

    If you purchase the 1st place as a PPOR and then convert to a IP you wont be able to benefit from the interest you pay on the loan as a tax deduction, unless you go through the expensive process of setting up trusts and then paying SD and transfer fees.

    By buying a PPOR, building equity then purchasing an IP later this year or next year it will also give you some time to do further research on investment possibilities and follow the market for awhile to get a better feel for trends and opportunities

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    Terry,

    I didn't learn much, a few things about the UCCC and a couple of other items.  I started a commerce degree many years ago, have had a couple of loans and run my own businesses.  Alot of the content I found was common sense, of information that any borrower SHOULD be aware of if they have had any previous mortgages.  It goes into some of the anti-money launderying and things but this is then repeated in the initial compliance pack (in greater deepth) with the MFAA.  There really is no content on structuring loans for investment purposes.  Aimed more at the straight forward loan applications.

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