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    Thanks Jamie and Terry (nice to hear from you again Terry)

    We won't be cross-collateralising, but am still interested in comments regarding the implications of having my wife as co-applicant with me (as trustee of our family trust). 

    My income is limited but I think the bank sees it as insufficient should the IP become unrented or the rent be substantially reduced for some reason.   My wife being Guarantor on our other 2 IPs was seen as a necessary evil but now they want her as a joint applicant.   BTW the intended IP will be cashflow positive.

    Are we in a position to call their bluff and threaten to go elsewhere if they don't make a "policy exception" and accept her as a Guarantor in lieu of a joint applicant?

    Have you a comment please Richard?

    Regards

    Peter
     

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    Thanks Richard.   Will check out lender comparisons once we've decided on our best plan.

    Yes Marty, selling first with a long settlement period may be the answer.    However, I'm a bit concerned about pressure to find the "right" place in the settlement period.

    Peter

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    You guys are awesome.

    David – Thanks for your simple step-by-step response, including your "downside" comment.     You suggest 2 loans (one on the unit and one top-up loan on the new PPOR).     What forms would the 2 loans take?     We are currently with the CBA for two IO loans on our 2 investment properties.    Would the CBA be a suitable lender for this approach?

    Tim – Your reply added further comment and reasoning to David's.    Thanks.

    Kane – Thanks for your support for Option F.

    Richard T and Terry W – Any comment would be most welcome.

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    Thanks Luke for taking the time to reply.   Will consider your comments.      

    PS   Apologies for the computer jargon at the lead-in to the topic.   Don't know where that came from.

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    Thanks Richard for your very clear and logical reply.

    Thanks Terry.     When you say "You could pay cash, then mortgage these properties", I assume you mean pay for IP in full with cash (chq from LOC and cash ex offset a/c).    Then mortgage IP after settlement and put the money back into the LOC.

    Thanks propertypower.   Your congrats and reply are appreciated.

    Peter 
      

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    Thanks Matt for your comments regarding investment plans and the purchase of a $400,000 IP.   BTW, I've looked at the Investor Finance web site.

    Thanks also Richard.   We set up the family trust as a base for our planned IP portfolio.    Yes, I agree with your caution re only acting on advice from licensed financial advisors.

    I would still appreciate comment from other experts.

    Regards

    Peter

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    Thanks Richard.
    Was looking forward to your comment, especially your clear explanation of Terry’s comment re “look at using the big banks now.”   
    We are now putting the Port Elliot block on the market to free up the equity/funds to purchase IP(s)/commence a portfolio.   The block does not appear to have increased much in value over 12 months and we feel we can do much better.
    Question:   Are we better off waiting to realise these funds and then pursue our first IP purchase based on:
    .   equity held in unit of $250,000,
    .   funds from sale of property – $145,000, and
    .   cash in bank – $50,000?
    We are looking at a property up to $400,000 with “guaranteed” rent of $400-500 pw.
    How would we go about this and leave plenty of scope for further IP purchase in 6-12 months? 

    Thanks also v8ghia.
    I’m glad you also replied.   I value your clear and positive comments.   Thanks also for your congratulations and encouragement.
    Yes – we do own our PPOR.
    We have spoken to an agent re our Port Elliot block and will now sell it.   Will be able to take advantage of the CGT 50% discount on any small profit realised.
    Re my question above to Richard.   Have you any suggestion as how to best structure to purchase a $400,000 / $400-500 rental IP (house)?

    Thanks also Matt.
    1.  We don’t think the build and rent scenario for the Port Elliot block is our best option. 
    2.  Is an Investment Plan something you recommend to your clients?   IE to be formalised (written down) with dates for each planned action etc.
    3.  Would you also like to comment on my question to Richard re an initial $400,000 IP purchase based on our equity?

    Regards
    Peter

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    1.   Thanks Terry.

    Establishing an LOC on our PPOR and using it the way you suggest seems a good way to go.    My wife is a trustee of the FT and hopes to gain employment in the next month or so, before we buy our first IP.   With that scenario (and assuming it eventuates), I think the current FT arrangement is okay.    We plan to buy IPs in the name of the FT.

     

    Would you:

    .   expand a little on why “All loans should be IO” and the mechanics/thinking behind  “a 100% offset account on one loan”;

    .   explain why you advise us to use “the big banks now” rather than other non-bank lenders;

    .   suggest what “a large enough LOC” could be, based on our figures?

     

    With regard to the land, we need to think about this.    We may choose to start our IP portfolio with ready made renters before considering renos, building on land or subdivisions.

     

    2.   Thanks also Matt.

    We think we now understand the LOC option.    How does an “offset a/c” option work?

    With regard to your “investment plan” comment, what form should this take?   (eg how formal?).   To “generate income” from our land, it appears you are advising building and then renting, rather than building and selling or reselling as vacant land?

     

    Will email you re property investment group.

     

    3.   Lastly, to

    .   Richard Taylor (tailored financial solutions),

    .   Craig Fulton (ducs finance solutions),

    .   Sharlene (moore financial solutions),

    .   Wayne (alpha mortgage solutions),

    .   Stewart Wemyss (prosolution),

    .   Alistair (APerry),

    .   v8ghia,

    .   any other forum members,

    would you kindly comment on or add to this post.    All advice is gratefully welcomed.

     

    Peter  

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