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    jbelmore wrote:
    That explains why US population is growing where European and Japanese populations are falling, in some places dramatically. If you are investing in a country or market with a falling population, you really have to ask yourself is the house and specific housing market I’m looking at going to be a good long term buy?

    The value in population data is most valuable at the local level, towns and States. The stats need to be fairly specific to be of value though. If a town is growing because of retiree settlement (because it’s cheaper to live for example) as opposed to say low socio economic migrants chasing low paid work then the placement of investment is going to reflect this.

    I notice that illegal immigration across the US southern border is near zero and there’s speculation that illegals in the US are now heading back. It appears the US economic situation isn’t good enough to attract even the poorest of peasants.

    Interesting.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0408/Home-again-in-Mexico-Illegal-immigration-hits-net-zero
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0408/As-tide-of-illegal-immigrants-goes-home-will-US-economy-suffer

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    Alex you may find this interactive us census data site useful. Interactive maps by state and a maps also by county. Gives demographic breakdowns

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/census/index

    A Brookings Inst population study 1980 – 2010. Provides population trends for most areas. Quite detailed

    http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/papers/2012/0320_population_frey/0320_population_frey.pdf

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    kristinedogz wrote:
    Thanks for your reply.
    Yes, I am more concerend about the tax I will pay. I do my own tax every year with the Tax Pack and I am wondering if once I sell my investment property if I should use a account that year, cause it may be a bit tricky or maybe at the end of the day we still have to pay tax on it any way so maybe I dont need a accountant. What are your thoughts. Have you sold a investment property in NZ before?

    Haven’t lived in NZ for almost 14 yrs so I’m well out of date with PI technical issues. An accountant is the best bet for tax advice.

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    kylermrice wrote:
    As a owner of many guns and ammo, we have stock piles that the gov doesn't even comprehend.

    Kyler.. is that you in there dude…??

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    lawsjs wrote:
    We are here BECAUSE we basically agree with you – and we aren’t buying silver. Or selling it – as you should be:)

    Oh come on Laws can’t you just disagree a little bit. You’re taking all the fun out of this thread.

    The Freckle
    PS I’ve bought another $15k of silver shares (little miner in QLD) over the last 2 weeks.

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    It doesn’t cost to bring money with you other than bank transaction fees. If you decide to carry cash across a border you simply need to declare amounts over $10k.

    If it’s an NZ investment property you need to talk to an accountant there

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    lawsjs wrote:
    In short – I wish I was – the money would be very welcome:)

    He’s a muppet with a big ego. Carries on like a spoilt brat. I’m sure you have more endearing qualities Laws

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    jdufall wrote:
    It is quite humourous reading posts from people who have very little or no knowledge about a subject.

    Freckle, one thing that hasn't ruled the well-being of Kalgoorlie is China. Other than the occasional investing into a mining company in the area, news about China is rarely spoken. 

    Always amazes me how little people understand the affect and effects of wider global activity at the local micro level.

    China is the biggest buyer of gold. China takes around 60% of global mining production (in all minerals/metals) for either its own use or refining and reselling.

    The super pit has a finite life.. currently 2021.

    The 2 biggest resources mined in Kal are gold and nickel. They account for $7.7B of Kal’s $8.1B GDP. Ten years ago China took 8% of world nickel supply. Today it accounts for 44%

    At the height of the global financial crisis in 2008 and 2009, more than a dozen nickel mines in WA closed or were placed in care and maintenance. Analyst Peter Strachan believes nickel producers, who have recently ramped up production since the crisis, could be at risk of closure again. “As China seems to be the only thing moving these days in the area of iron ore and steel production, and 65 per cent of nickel is used in production of stainless steel, that’s just put the downward movement on nickel prices,” he said.
    http://infocommodity.com/2011/09/30/future-nickel-prices-trading-fall-recession-2012

    Seems to me they’re blissfully ignorant of the impact China is having on them. If China goes south then expect Kal to feel some pain.

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    kylermrice wrote:
    Everybody makes it sound rough, it's really not that hard when u have good people and system in place.

    I was watching a doco the other day about deserts. One part was about this 12 yr old kid in Mali herding cattle some 80km to water. He was racing against a herd of elephants to get there first. He slept on a mat near a fire over night and fed straight from cows with milk for food and liquids. When he got to the water hole several days later the elephants had beaten him. They blocked his herds access to water and actually charged the herd. He sheltered behind some fallen trees and brush but waved his stick and threw rocks at them to try and get access to water for his cows.

    Another was about a 10 yr old girl learning to guide her camel train to a water hole 3 days walk into the Sahara desert. Only women in the tribe undertook this task. Her mother was teaching her how to navigate the great desert both day and night. The water hole was some 80km from any other known water. Miss it and you die because you can only carry enough water to get you there.

    It’s all relative I suppose.

    The Freckel
    PS: I know you have an elephant gun under the bed for the more difficult hoods. ;-)

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    kylermrice wrote:
    U kill me Freckle.  Just like the time that lady bombed your thread and you called her out on it.  just to dang funny

    My tolerance level for idiots and lack of manners is diminishing with age. As is eye sight, memory and penile function.

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    Won’t work in the market you’re looking at unfortunately. Not consistently anyway. High risk low return is the usual order of the day.

    The Candy brothers are an example of what you’re trying to achieve but in a market that:

    1. has the money and wants to buy quality; and

    2. is in the very rich to super rich end of the market.

    http://www.candyandcandy.com/

    I’m afraid your average aussie home purchaser wouldn’t know quality if you hit him round the ears with it.

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    My understanding is that an agent has a legal obligation to present ALL offers to the vendor. No exceptions.

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    kylermrice wrote:
    As a owner of many guns and ammo, we have stock piles that the gov doesn't even comprehend. 

    I think that gubermint of yours probably knows how much you’ve got and where you hide it.

    It's a basic right we have always maintained to keep our freedom from tyranny and oppression of the inflated gov. 

    How’s that working out

    Not supposed to have a hollow points, or automatic weapons but it hasn't stopped me

    You realise now that your on 300 databases and the boys in black suits will be calling on you. I think you should run for it

    There are a lot of issues here, if welfare and medicare are dropped it will be my tenants in the hood who will riot. 

    Time to tool up and get bad to the bone! You could turn your hoods in to real time arcade games

    Obama passed a law to where our own military can be used upon our own people. 

    Seen that. Not to worry. The US army couldn’t keep 20 million rag heads from revolting what chance against 300 mil civilians each with 6 guns under the bed

    I'll have to dig it up, i'm on my mobile and just can't look up or type as much as if i was at my computer. 

    Have the big screen HTC but I hate texting on phones full stop. I bought it to watch pornos on the go ;-)

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    Laws I understand your cash arguement in terms of no risk of forclosure however that’s only one part of the risk equation. The risk in the US market is from currency devaluation and nothing illustrates that better than the following graphic.

    Gold is a static form of value for the most part. An oz today will by say 10 apples. In 20 years it will still only buy 10 apples. If we translate that into FIAT currency the 10 apples today may cost $1 but in 10 years they’ll cost $3.

    In the last 5 years the US$ has lost around 60% of its purchasing power. Show me an investment that can keep pace with that kind devaluation and I’m all ears.

    Foreign investors chasing US assets just don’t get it I’m afraid. They can’t get out of the US$ FIAT box.

    This wouldn’t be so bad if there was fiscal policy to constrain US$ value loss but unfortunately that’s an actual goal of Fed and US Govt policy. The strategy is to try and inflate their debt down to manageable levels and hopefully the economy will kick back into life and growth will then solve the debt problem. The problem is that when you look at all the things constraining the US economy you soon come to realise that that is just a pipe dream promoted by desperate politicians chasing another term in office.

    The only thing saving a total collapse of the US$ is that virtually every major central bank in the world is doing the exact same thing its just that the US is slightly more aggressive and is currently front running the pack. That however is causing major problems for economies like Australia whose dollar isn’t appreciating in real terms but currencies around it are devaluing. This kind of crazy race to the bottom through currency debasement distorts the FX market and generates endless problems for comparatively healthy economies.

    China’s problem isn’t US consumption but shifting its economy from primarily export orientated to a more internal consumerist model. China has significant structural and debt problems to contend with and isn’t as healthy as many think. Growth is slowing and if China is to successfully restructure its economy into a more sustainable model it has to get growth down to around 3-5%. That’s a big problem for us but another story.

    China isn’t buying Greek bonds Only the ECB will touch anything the smaller PIIGS need. China and Russia are slowly divesting themselves of US dollars held in the foreign reserve accounts though. They need to get out of US $$ to preserve their value.

    Buy in a good area with guaranteed tenant

    Short term I have no problem with that but on a cyclical basis a good area/good tenant today may be a broke tenant in a bad area tomorrow. My gut feeling is that renters may be more vulnerable than usual if another serious downturn eventuates. That could see rental areas take a serious socio economic hit. How that turns out is anyones guess.

    There’s endless opportunities in these times but they’re much riskier than most think. There’s a lot of angles to cover and the last thing you want to happen is to get blind sided by some unexpected or supposedly benign event

    I don’t think you guys are doing to much wrong apart from a few weaknesses in strategic thinking and maybe a little complacency on certain issues. If anyone’s capable of surviving in these times I think you guys probably have most bases covered.

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    KnoxOff wrote:
    thats  more  more bullets  than americans

    Yanks have never been renowned for accuracy.

    US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan – an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed – that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. As a result the US is having to import supplies from Israel
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread173251/pg1

    Based on that Home Sec may have to order a few more. 450m will only get 18000 kills.

    I think your tenants are safe ;-)

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    KnoxOff wrote:
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    its just a bit of  ammo    for the freckle  to fire  off  

    in his US   armageddon arguments

     

    An here’s me just studying another analyst who talks in terms of a “Super depression” yet to come. And I thought I was pessimistic about future economic recovery.

    An interesting blog article from Steve Hansen, “Seeing The End Of The Real Estate Death Spiral”
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/455201-seeing-the-end-of-the-real-estate-death-spiral.

    Kinda mixed signals with this one. I think predicting the bottom or end of the property correction is a little premature at this point.

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    pc9geek wrote:
    Hi Freckle, I live in the Middle East and I would like to give my perspective. The US is the only country in the World who can “print its way to prosperity”. It has just recently gone too hard and fast at it.

    The reason I say that is if you look at all the commodities which are traded for in USD and the large number of nations tied to the USD at fixed exchange rates either officially (China, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia, UAE and at least a dozen more) and unofficially (Australia, UK, Canada etc.)

    Let me give you a fiction (for laughs) that illustrates

    Just say each of the following fictitious countries had their own currency
    FreckleLand has the Freckle,
    PC9GeekLand has the PcPeso,
    JayTopia has the JYen, and
    the United Stated of Federal Reserve has the USFR Dollar

    Ok so we all trade goods and services and the value of our currencies is set by the work we do or the commodities we exchange, but the USFR insists that we all start accepting USFR Dollar for all transactions between us and some commodities like fuel can only be bough in USFR Dollars. They go further and the USFR insists that we fix our currencies at a fixed rate to the USFR Dollar.

    So now the USFR can sit back and stop nationally doing work or exporting commodities because every Dollar it prints now dilutes the entire global multi-currency supply, but it is the USFR that gets to spend it.

    So yes the US can print its way out of recession.

    I do like the way you think.

    Steve

    Boy I’m glad you cleared that up. Here’s me thinking QE is inflationary and devalues the printers currency.

    Silly me.

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    If the last post didn’t wake you up to the reality that is China perhaps this report from Christopher Pavese, CFA, Chief Investment Officer at Broyhill Asset Management.

    http://www.alsosprachanalyst.com/real-estate/figures-dont-lie-but-liars-figure-and-more-empty-shopping-malls.html

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    Virtually all mining is predicated on continued growth in China or at least maintaining current levels of consumption and GDP growth. Nothing I research with regards to China supports that contention.

    Every plausible commentator I read sees continued corrections in China as it readjusts down to a sustainable stable growth rate which is likely to be less than 5%.

    That will see substantial drops in commodity prices and volumes. That translates into a substantial reduction in resource capacity expansion. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised to see a contraction within the next 2 years albeit small. That virtually kills the massive demand for accommodation. Take construction out of the picture and mining town demand drops by 70%

    http://www.alsosprachanalyst.com/economy/no-matter-how-fast-or-slow-china-is-growing-dont-cheer-nor-mourn.html

    GDP growth is slowing and fast.

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    To me it’s patently obvious that China will settle around 2000 yr levels. From memory I think iron ore was selling for less than $20/mt. That doesn’t even come close to cost now ($50 – 80/mt) depending on who you listen to.

    The industry expects iron ore to settle around $140/mt. I think that’s overly optimistic to say the least.

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