Latest trade data is not supporting the Abenomics strategy. On the contrary.
Japan trade deficit soars 69.7% in April to ¥879.9 billion, from April a year ago, the tenth months in a row of trade deficits, the worst series since 1980, and the worst April ever. For each of the last three Aprils, the deficit was worse than in the prior one; same for March, February, and January. The trend is relentlessly awful. Abenomics is deepening the hole, but it’s digging at a faster rate. The weaker yen nudged up exports 3.8%, but imports jumped 9.4%. Don’t blame oil: imported crude oil volume dropped 2.2%. Exports to China stagnated, but imports jumped 13.3%; the deficit skyrocketed 60.2%. However, exports to the US rose 14.8% while imports stagnated; the trade surplus leaped 32.5%. Japan exports twice as much to the US as it imports. Perhaps someone in the White House will someday get Japan to open up its auto market. The trade balance with Western Europe flipped from a surplus a year ago to a deficit; exports fell 3.5% and imports rose 11.4%. Abenomics and the money-printing binge have heated up consumption of imported luxury goods and other items that can’t be produced in Japan. For the rest, Abenomics appears to be a giant miscalculation. The graph for the years 2011, 2012, and 2013 shows the worsening trend:
I can go with the general theme of what you're saying although I'd dispute some aspects of it. High suicide rates poverty etc. Japan didn't collapse in a heap but it didn't really recover either when it should have. It's biggest mistake in the eighties was not allowing companies to fail and carrying the debt into the future in the belief growth and inflation would vaporise that debt over time. Reasonable assumptions at the time but a policy that should have been corrected as it became obvious it wasn't working. Instead Japanese stoicism and cultural characteristics saw them persist in the belief that more time would resolve these issues.
In the meantime quality of life and lifestyle could be maintained, certainly on the surface, by a steady diet of debt. Japan reminds me of the gambler who funds his bets with debt and keeps doubling down trying to work the odds of just one win will correct the situation.
I can go with most of Abe's 3 arrow strategy especially competitive reform. The problem he faces is that if one arrow misses the others are likely to miss as well and he's out the door. That means failure would likely see a reversion back to the days of old in terms of governance. Would the corporate power brokers be able to neutralise him politically and strengthen their already tight hold on their respective commercial markets?
If global markets where in better shape I would give him half a chance of making a difference but in reality he has too many forces aligned against him. China, S Korea, Taiwan and the EU aren't going to sit by idly and watch their market share dwindle in the face of competitive currency manipulation. In a healthier global economic situation they might have given Japan some wiggle room to maneuver but given the animosity going around I tend to think if anything they'll do their best to complicate any attempt at recovery.
The biggest concern at the moment is not decimating their banking system. Banks hold huge amounts of JGB's which when they hit 1% as they have compromise bank Tier 1 ratios and puts them in the technically insolvent category. The BOJ has had to support the bond market on all but 2 days since launching QE. Volatility is off the clock and spooking investors. While the BOJ wanted a flow out of bonds and into other investment areas it doesn't want that flow to turn into a flood it can't control.
One of the weak points in its strategy is it can't control both its currency and JGBs at the same time. It's one or the other. BOJ is trying to back out of more purchases of bonds but the market is spooked and the BOJ has to support the bond price by buying when it doesn't want to. If it doesn't support the bond price rates go up jeopardising banks solvency positions. If it's forced in to supporting the bond price it risks pushing the currency lower and possibly loosing control of it.
Another problem is that this volatility is creating problems in other markets. I can't see this being tolerated for too much longer. Everything is pointing to something breaking soon. Instability is increasing and if something snaps nobody really knows how it will play out.
One of the scariest aspects of this experiment is that no one really knows how this will work out. There is no central bank intervention in the last 5 years that has improved or resolved the problems that led to GFC08. At best they've stuck us in a holding pattern. I have no faith in the BOJ's plan which is simply a much bigger version of past global CB intervention strategies that have failed to deliver. Why would theirs be any different
Uncle Freckle I reckon you should edit your signature to include your key message That way it shall be seen each time you post
That'd be no fun Jac's. I like to sneak up on the muppets and surprise them. A big fancy sig block is like blowing a bugle as you walk through the door.
biggaz13 – I agree with the sentiment of your post. The Mandurah and Perth markets couldn't be more different
And who else are you masquerading here as? Playing tag with biggaz13 are we??
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I have met very few people who want to live in Mandurah (for a variety of reasons) and this obviously equates to poor growth and in Mandurah's case, a decline from when everyone rushed in.
Don't get around much do you. Mid 2012 the vacancy rate in Mandurah were tight. Today the selection is at least 3 times bigger. We have friends that also rent down here and who recently changed properties (2 months ago). Acquired a place within 2 weeks compared to 3 months initially.
Regional towns helped absorb the influx generated by the mining expansion. As that expansion winds down the regional towns are likely to be the first to contract again. Canaries in the coal mine perhaps. Perth will benefit for a while as those who were pushed to the fringes look to move closer or into Perth as vacancy pressures ease.
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I live 12km from the Perth CBD and most homes are sold before being advertised on the market – all at under 400K and renting for at least $350/week. This area is just starting to grow, and a very different picture to Mandurah!
A simplistic or amateurs view of a market. Perth's growth and boom was a direct result of a resource boom. You could securely invest in a market when you could see ever growing investment being committed to the commercial sector. The reverse should hold true correct?
The mining boom is over big time. The property market will contract as a consequence. I can't tell you how much or when it will end but one thing I know from my experience within the resource sector here is that if it contracts as fast and as hard as resources are now then it's going to hurt a lot of people big time. The worst of it is likely to be absorbed by the regional areas first. Perth will be the last to cop it but it will feel the effects. Of that I'm sure
Not really, freckle, its just that you don't like the answer you've received.
Abe's current fiscal policy CAN kick start reasonable inflation and create growth, the Japanese CAN increase workforce participation and immigration, other countries CAN improve their own economic conditions and resume imports from Japan, and local holders of government debt CAN continue backing up their government until the situation improves, because its in their nature to do so, until improvement overtakes debt.
ROFL… yeah they've been doing it for 20 years. How's that working out. Japan sat in the midst of the largest credit boom in history yet its fiscal position deteriorated. Must have been just bad luck eh?
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its just that you don't like the odds, as well as the general optimism and faith in this approach, so you prefer to paint the starker option as a certainty. the reason for this lies, whether you like to admit it or not, in your world view, which states that almost everybody is stupid and will do the wrong thing, and that the path they've chosen will not lead to any positive results.
20 years of failure. 20 years of doing the same thing with the same result. Einstein's definition of insanity and somehow you're trying to twist that around and paint me as the doomsdayer and economic scaremonger who doesn't like the odds or faith in this approach.
But it's just more rhetoric on your part with little or no economic evidence to support your position.
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We disagree on all of these points, because we have different views of the world and the Japanese people in particular. Not really that complicated.
The difference between you and me is that you have blind faith. I don't.
I'm 70k south in Mandurah. The property I rent (5yr old 4/2/2) is on the market at 50k below cost and 50k above market. The agent is bringing someone through this morning which will be the first in almost 5 weeks. Similar property down the road has been on the market for over 6 months now. When we moved here Jul 12 properties where selling within 2 months.
I was talking to the agent yesterday and mentioned the surge in retail vacancies down at the marina complex. He said retail vacancy had jumped along with light commercial and light industrial. That's an ominous sign but it dovetails in with everything I'm seeing and hearing.
WA's problem is it's largely a one trick pony and that's resources. Resource activity is contracting at a rate even I hadn't anticipated. It's taken everyone who monitors this stuff by surprise. Everyone is trying to adjust to this contraction but its happening that fast its literally crushing small business.
Perth hasn't woken up to this fact yet especially the general public who keep being feed the message all is well and we have everything under control BS.
I don't think anyone doubts your intelligence, or ability to source a supportive graph or two, but I am curious as to why you hang around a property site if you don't think it is a good investment.
Never said property as a class was a bad investment. The entry time for property is not now. Hasn't been for a few years now. I hold that view because to me the fundamentals that drive property in general are deteriorating and I hold the opinion that property will eventually see a substantial correction. It's taken much longer than I thought possible but it's on our doorstep now and the economic conditions suggest it's imminent. The time to buy will be soon but it's definitely not now.
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I don't think property is as bad as you think.
Most don't. When things go wrong most people suffer.
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If you buy at the top of the the market in shares or commodities, I think you will be worse off due to their liquidity. You can dump your shares easier than property which we have seen before. House owners are more likely to hang on till things improve which makes them a more stable investment in my mind.
Liquidity is an issue to some but it usually separates the investor from the speculator. Speculators like liquidity while investors rarely consider it. Shares give you a flexibility property doesn't but the rules are virtually the same. Blue chips provide stability, income and growth over the long term. Same characteristics as property.
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To be down 40K on silver doesn't sound like a better investment to me, even if it does come off eventually! I'd prefer to sleep at night. Have you had any big losses?
Cheers!
Your properties rise and fall in value but there's little to measure that on a day by day week by week basis. That's a false sense of security. In other words if I don't know todays actual value I'm alright. When a market moves against you your trapped with no way out. There is no asset class that is a sure bet and they all correct at some point.
3 years ago everyone thought China would boom for 10 -20 years. It's all over I'm afraid. We're in the bust phase now and it's going to hurt because this is a global bust underpinned by central bank printing which will prolong the correction. My guess is we could be in for a long period of stagnation at best and depreciation at worst.
You're still waffling Ziv. You talk in circles but say nothing. You psycho analyse me and seem fixated on my motives and economic position with colorful adjectives to embellish your rhetoric but no persuasive economic argument is forthcoming.
You sound more like a politician wriggling under the spotlight and doing everything they can to avoid answering the question directly.
Any possibility of positive sentiment is likely to be rubbed out by a deteriorating economic picture over the next 2 quarters. You also have an election to contend with that doesn't promise anything but spending cuts, government layoffs and more austerity. You could be looking at a credit regrading next year which would invariably increase govt borrowing costs and induce more contractionary spending.
Our primary economic growth drivers are diminishing in a struggling global economy with nothing to replace it except govt stimulus if anything. If the dollar keeps falling you might see the large markets struggle as overseas investors pause or some prefer to liquidate and move to other markets. There's nothing good on the immediate horizon and I expect conditions to become even more difficult over the next 6 – 12 months
It's getting tiresome because you talk around the subject instead of addressing the issues directly.
I indicated the problem is a mathematical certainty but you continually evade providing a reasoned response on how this could be averted. You allude to micro managed elements and side issues as possible solutions but don't join the dots.
My view is primarily macro and holistic predicated on simple logic. Japan is a country that imports raw materials, value adds and re-exports to fund the majority of its existence. That existence is under threat because the global economies that it relies on are crumbling. The global consumer is largely maxed out on product and debt.
It won't really matter what Japan tries to do. It's customers are broke and global consumer demand is contracting.
You think Japan can make it then give me some hard logically thought out argument backed by empirical evidence otherwise you're just whistling in the wind.
I'm well aware of how carry trade works, thanks. The lady specifically mentioned "other places, where the currency will go up" – not "other investment vehicles in other countries". She has zero possibility of predicting this, except in the very short term perhaps.
Watch it again. She mentions higher yield products. You don't need a crystal ball for foreign bonds
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all I said was that you, like most precious metal traders, have everything to gain when the world panics
So lets re-examine what you actually said.
2. "I'm a big believer in gold". No, really? You mean like the rest of the panic mongers that fill her ranks? What a surprise. It's amazing, isn't it, how the vast majority of doomsday predictors are somehow invested in precious metals and their derivatives (yourself included, on a smaller scale).
So does that include China, Russia, Germany and every other major central bank, hedge fund, gold bank, merchant bank etc. They're all "Panic mongers" because they invest in gold. You constantly discredit your argument with this sort comment.
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"The few miserable jobs on offer", in the worlds third largest economy with 4.1% unemployment? Are we talking about the same country, or are you completely lost in your own rambling, apocalyptic mind???
So lets see about 127mil people and 1.5% are foreigners. Where are the vast majority of foreign workers employed? That's right – laborers and other low skilled work the locals don't like to do but is appropriate for foreigners. Most of the new jobs will be in elderly care for the aging population wiping bums and chins probably from bog rolls denoted in worthless yen possibly.
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I beg to differ, I actually think immigration and equality in the workplace are two of the most significant discussions Japan should be (and is) having in the coming months and years – and that process has already started. Yes, the aversion to foreign intervention in "the old ways" of Japan runs deep – but so has the aversion to increased sales tax, to dropping nuclear reactors, and even to Abe himself. Things change, even in Japan.
Yeah things change but not culturally ingrained behaviors. Cultural values once entrenched are virtually impossible to dislodge in a person. It's the cause of much of the conflict in the world. Prejudices and hatreds are literally impossible to change across a population. it's the least of their worries at the moment anyway.
IT IS NOT AN OPINION OR PREDICTION. ………………IT IS A MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY
Your response was to waffle around the subject. If you disagree then why is it not a mathematical certainty?
If I looked at any business and saw rising debt, rising costs and a declining revenue base I'd say that it was a mathematical certainty its going to fail. That's Japan. Good luck explaining how Japan overcomes that hurdle.
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she could be wrong, and he could be doing exactly what's needed to put Japan back on the fast track to growth. The reality, as usual, is somewhere in between – no matter what extremists like you want the public to buy.
Two guys standing around watching a house burn down. Coming down the road is the fire brigade.
1st bloke: That's lucky fire brigades here. They'll have her out in no time.
2nd bloke: No they won't. Haven't got a show.
1st bloke: Course they will.
2nd bloke: Not a show mate.
1st bloke: Why the hell won't they put her out ya drongo.
BOJ just threw 2 trillion at the JGB market to support a slide that's been running for a few days now. But this injection it seems is after the Nikkei just took a 7% hit.
Jeez still plunging… ouch!!
This is one wild ride and by all accounts the BOJ is hanging on by the skin of its teeth as it tries to control the market. This will be interesting and educational I'm sure.
So in your opinion freckle there is good money to be made in FX selling the against USD?
Nope. The money is in borrowing yen @ 0.1% and buying assets, stocks or bonds that pay bucket loads more. If (as) the yen depreciates you get even more of kicker. The yen carry trade as its known is about arbitraging the differences in interest rates. In the past an appreciating yen could neutralise this trade at times but with a depreciating yen it's almost like taking candy from a baby.
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