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    January 20, 2005 - 4:11 am

    Hey Maynard, that’s the very reason why I didn’t join PIPS. Did my DD myself and found a bunch of complains against it.

    As for the one I’m dabbling in right now, I happen to receive my 1st payments (profits) this morning. What a shock when I read the email “You have received payments!”.

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    January 7, 2005 - 3:35 am

    ANUBIS, this is not an investment as they have said too. It is a global advertising business that pays big. That’s to say if you are in it just to make money, it is a wrong motive. You’re in it to give advertisers a run for their money and because of that, you’re rewarded.

    Lucifer_au, ah ha … I knew you’ve not done your homework properly. It’s a cycling model and not a pyramid. In a cycling model, everyone is tied to everyone. Call it what you like, bottom line: It isn’t pyramid shaped.

    Btw, I was chatting with someone yesterday who is familiar with coding such programs and he seems to know what he is talking about when he talk about the matrixes and the math behind it.

    Yack, are you Donald Trump?? Jokes aside … Who’s to say I’m not a property investor? I just stumbled upon some opportunity this week and since the starter of the thread mentioned about PIPS, I thought I might as well let him know my due diligence on it. Cheers!

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    January 6, 2005 - 2:40 pm

    Hey Doug, no problems.
    Take care now!

    Proven System to double your $$$ in 60~90 days!!
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    January 6, 2005 - 10:06 am

    DeFinitive, err I’m confused. What are you talking about? I’m not extolling PIPS … In fact, i’m against it.

    Proven System to double your $$$ in 60~90 days!!
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    January 6, 2005 - 5:55 am

    Derek, personally I have problems with PIPS as I’ve seen ppl complain against it during my DD. As such, i will not “invest” in such a system. just gambling to me.

    after studying the system i’m in, i’m totally amazed at how genuine the community is and how lively the whole forum is.

    This system i’m talking about is not a pyramid. Pyramids don’t work simply because it is a “some win, most lose” system. the other system i’m talking about is a “everybody wins” system.

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    January 6, 2005 - 5:02 am

    Hi Alibaba, where’s your forty thieves? (Just kidding…)
    Yeah, from an outsider’s view, this one does make you go hmm.

    Just remember to do your own research and DD before deciding.

    Btw, anyone knows how to create a encapsulated link for our signatures?

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    January 6, 2005 - 4:41 am

    Derek, why do you say that? Perhaps you’ll like to look into the model yourself? ;) It might help.

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    January 6, 2005 - 3:01 am

    ANUBIS, please understand this. It sounds “unbelievable” for most people and that’s fine cos we’ve been programmed/conditioned to not believe in something as good as this.

    However, if i were to suggest anything it would be to look at it in a different angle and see what’s their business model like.

    Cheers!

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    January 4, 2005 - 2:35 pm

    Guys, in fact I stumbled upon these programs yesterday morning and found their “investors” to have mixed feelings about this PIPS thing. 1 thing led to another and by chance, I found a truly amazing opportunity where your money is doubled within 60~90 days (it comes closer to 100 now though).

    Invested some money into it slightly later. I found all their members to be EXTREMELY pleased and happy with the program and some of them have met the founder personally and found him to be righteous, honest and has integrity. I liked what I heard so I went ahead with it.

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    December 21, 2004 - 5:38 pm

    Thanks for the contributions (Terry & Robert).

    Steve, do you mind talking more about this “investing system that identifies solutions to a range of problems”? I don’t quite ‘catch the ball’.

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    December 21, 2004 - 6:22 am

    Greg, I’ve sent you an email. Did you receive it?

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    December 15, 2004 - 7:51 pm

    Steven, thanks for your last bit. I know you were trying to get me to understand. However, your last post still left me slightly confused.

    With Clint and Robert’s explanation and perspectives, I get it now.

    Really thanks to all your contributions (Robert, Clint, Steven, Simon). ;)

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    December 13, 2004 - 3:22 pm

    Oh, so that’s what wholesale is all about. I feel pretty silly now yet I’m glad I learnt something.

    In that case, do people buy plots of land and build houses in them for sale?

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    December 13, 2004 - 3:19 pm

    Ok yet I’m a little confused now.

    I’ll be paying $20004 per year for 5 years???
    And that is interest only? And why the 4 dollars?

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    December 13, 2004 - 12:37 pm

    Steven, I still don’t get something here. Why am I only paying around $20 a year?

    Isn’t it 10% of $200k -> $20k (interest)

    $20k / 5 years??

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    December 13, 2004 - 9:27 am

    Steven, thanks for answering that for me.
    I’ll like to use an example to see if I actually understood that.

    Based on a $200k loan at 10% interest (5 years), I’ll be paying the $20k interest amortized over 5 years. After the 5 years, I’m left with just the principal to clear …. Right?

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    December 13, 2004 - 9:14 am

    Hey Greggy,

    I was really chuckling to myself with your cute little chant “buy wholesale, sell retail”. Really cute.. Did you think of that yourself?

    Btw, where can one look for wholesale IPs?

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    December 13, 2004 - 6:26 am

    Simon, to paraphrase it, does it mean that with IO loans, I’m maximising my cashflow?

    The downside is that your debt wont reduce during the IO period however this may not be an issue – depending upon your strategy.


    Why’s this so? Is it because I’m paying off all my interest on the loan paying actually paying off for the principal borrowed?

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    December 13, 2004 - 6:22 am

    eezy, why do you say yours is CF+? how much are your amortized weekly repayments for the loan?

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    December 13, 2004 - 6:19 am

    crj, thanks for your contribution.

    Greg, those examples really did help. I know how to calculate now.

    *Nero huh? Hehe … ;) (That was pretty funny I thought)

    So what do you consider a good rental yield (as a %)? with closing cost and without …

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