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My friends and i own 6 properties in the Bowen Basin between us.
5 of these have been signed up for 2 year leases in the last 2 weeks by major companies.
Yes, we had to negotiate lower rental agreements then what we expected. We rented them all for between $900 and $1200 a week. Considering that the purchase price for most of our properties was below $350,000 – we are still very happy with the result.
We had no trouble at all getting tenants – probably because we were prepared to take lower more realistic rents.
Yes, I am a little worried about the state of our economy, but this has certainly eased the pressure for now :- )
Hi stu_macca
I know exactly how you are feeling !!
I recently purchased a property in Moranbah and also bought one in Dysart at the end of January.
I have done extremley well out of both of these properties in terms of both growth and in rents.
I too keep thinking that it is all too easy and too good to be true. I always said that if things looked a bit shakey i would be outa there in a flash. I actually rang an agent last friday to list them but changed my mind a couple of hours later and withdrew them!!
Im still there but have been keeping a very close eye on the market.
A property was lited in moranbah last wednesday for $450,000 and sold within 24 hours for $465,000.
A rental property yesterday had already received 13 applications at $1,000.00 a week for your basic lowrise 3 bedder and it was only mid arvo.
A friend of mine who bought a 5 bedroom highrise in Dysart 4 months ago rang one of the larger mining companies yesterday to see if they were interested in renting his property (already has tenants, he was just trying to get a feel for how things are going). They were happy to sign up on a 3 year lease for $1,400.00 a week.
Nothing seems to be slowing down in the Bowen from what I can see.
BMA are still spending big up there and another company just bought a 1.4mill block of land.
I know that this could all change at any time. But I have decided to ride out the storm and hopefully not regret it.
Thats today anyway
Good luck
Fingerscrossed
Yep, there already is an airport at Moranbah – they are talking about doing an upgrade
Hi again
I just rang an agent at Moranbah Real Estate and asked him if there were any available rentals and he answered no and told me he had a waiting list of 80 people.
I was told the same by Elders.
I suggest that if anyone is serious about buying property in Moranbah that they make a few calls to suss out the area themselves.
I see it going the same way that Dysart has gone and thats UP. Rent and house prices. I have just increased the rent on a house i bought in Dysart less than 6 months ago from $650 to $950. Not one complaint !!
I'm loving the Bowen basin
Hi Builderbob
Who are these houses for sale with ?
If you do a search on Realestate.com.au there are no places for sale and there are no places for rent.
One appeared today for sale at $560,00 but is already under contract.
I am trying to purchase another property up there. I have the agents on the job. They have contacted me about 2 in the last week – both went under contract before i could have a serious look at them.
Are these properties that you mentioned above for sale with Moranbah Real Estate ??
I appreciate that you are in the area and seeing this stuff first hand. But i am more than a little surprised that there are places on the market unsold.
Keenas
Yes, its all true what the agents are saying about property in moranbah.
Do your reseach and you will see that there is HEAPS going on up there with much more to come.
There are no houses for sale and there are no houses for rent – supply and demand kicks in and rents go through the roof. Property prices follow.
Houses are selling within days and prices are not very negotiable.
I reckon Moranbah is a great place to invest – but be quick, i reckon prices are going up overnight !! I believe the high rise property that I bought a month ago (settled last week) is now worth $30,000 more.
Good idea to contact the agents directly. If you wait for them to reach the internet they are usually already gone.
As for Mt Isa – I dont know. I am too excited about the Bowen Basin. Surat Basin is worth a look too
Keenas
Hi Damian
I have recently done extensive reseach into the Bowen Basin.
I bought a property in Dysart 6 months ago and the capital growth has been fantastic as have the rents.
I also have a deposit down on an off the plan unit in Middlemount at a place called Prince Place. The expected rent on these units is expected to be around $900 + a week and this is achievable I believe. Its all about supply and demand and they are screaming out for more accomodation.
Middlemount has 2 major projects in the pipleline. German Creek mine is expanding and the construction of Lake Lindsay Mine.
The worry that I have with Middlemount is that there is a lot of construction going on up there. One of the big mining Companies have committed to spending $85Mil on developing the town to make it more appealing for the miners – a nicer place to live. Some of this 85mil is apparently going to be spent on easing the accomodation crisis. I heard they were going to build duplex's.
The block of land next door to Prince Place has been sold to a developer who I understand is going to build a block of units.
So, not sure how long the supply and demand will last. The prices of the units did seem a little inflated but the yields and depreciation are great for now.
My Moranbah property settles tomorrow. I think that Moranbah is a safe bet with BHP looking at a new mine 10klm out of town, a fertilization plant and explosives plant all in the pipeline. Rents are good and on there way up. Hopfully prices will follow.
Maintenance is an issue in the older places. It can be VERY expensive for labor.
I live in Victoria and have bought all properties sight unseen.
I could babble on here for ages Damian, but if you are serious about investing in the Bowen I would suggest you ring the QLD Mines and Enery Department and ask them to send some information on the projected mines for the area.
I did this and they sent me 4 huge maps with all the information that I could ever need.
Also, do searches on the ABC News websites and check out the BHP, Anglo Coal and Xtrata websites. The information you get from these is invaluable.
Good luck with the investing and the new baby
If I can be of any help just ask away.
Keenas
Hi Virgininvestor
I have heard that Dale Gatherum-Goss in Kilsyth is fantastic. Do a search on the posts to see what others have said about him.
He was highy recommended to me – have not changed over as yet but have intentions of doing so.
His number is 0397237699.
cheers
fingerscrossed
Thanks Richard, I will give Leonie a call now.
have a nice day
Thanx for taking the time to respond Barney.
Its great to hear from someone who actually lives in this area, as I would be buying sight unseen.
Of course I would be getting the usual inspections done and I always get Landlords insuarace no matter what.
I have taken your comments onboard
cheers
debbie
Hi Jessica
You could try checking out these websites.
http://www.owner.com.au
http://www.goprivate.com.au
http://www.noagentproperty
http://www.zeroauctionsor mabe the Trading post.
cheers
Debbie
Hi Emil
I agree with julie.
I think that a 4th room is going to add value no matter what you call it.
We are planning on knocking part of the wall out of the “study” and taking half of the built in wardrobe from the adjoining bedroom next door.
My agent advised us that a house advertised as a 4 bedroom sounds more appealing than a 3 bedroom and study and that a 4th bedroom would add value.
I know that knocking down walls won’t be possible in your case. Why don’t you just buy a small stand alone wardrobe?.
Your room sounds a bit on the small side.
I would seek the advice of a professional qualified valuer and leave the Real Estate Agents out of it. There opinions vary so much.
Good luck with it all
Debbie
Hi Emil
I recently had two seperate valuations done on my home. I have always referred to it as a 4 bedroom house – but both agents said that I could not call it a 4 bedroom home if it didn’t have a built in wardrobe.
They both completed my valuation as a 3 bedroom plus study !!
Even though my “study” was as big as two of the other bedrooms.
I’m in Vic, could be different in your State.
good luck
debbie
sorry again Marc
I have a brother named Mark with a k. Just habit I guess.
Thanks for your reply Linda.
I guess that after awhile you just wouldn’t hear it anymore – just get so used to it.
cheers
debbie
sorry Mark
I was a little vauge.
There “is” a sound barrier at the back of the property.
The yield of 5% is the going rate, according to real estate.com.au and other agents that i have spoken to, for the area and the quailty and location of the house.
The block can be sub divided.
The vendor was happy to lease back for 12 months at a 5% yield – but i requested a 12 month settlement becasue this enables me to buy more property with the money that i have left after paying the 10% deposit.
It would have been negative geared at a loss to us. With the 12 month settlement I should get some capital growth and maybe a rent rise between now and then.
The properties in this area sell very quickly due to the location and land size. This has been confirmed by several agents i have spoken to.
This particular property has not hit the open market as yet.
Am I on the right track or should i be looking at the units do you think ??
I am still new to this game !!
your input is much appreciated
debbie
To esnam
Thank you so much for your post.
You put my thoughts into words perfectly
I looked at it like swapping properties too.
Property goes through cycles and I thought that it was a wise move to buy at the bottom of the market then sell at the top.
I realize that this is not always advisable if you have invested in an area that has slow continual growth.
But the growth that we have just had in the west has been exceptional and it may be another 10 years before it does anything again.
Ben made a good point by pointing out that Perth may be slowing down, but the regional area may still have a little way to go – the old “domino affect”.
My investment there was always only going to be a short term investment. I think that there is always an element of risk associated with purchasing property in a mining town. It was a bit like gambling I thought – now I think that I should quit while I’m in front.
My property is under both mine and my husbands name. His tax bracket is only 31.5% and because i don’t earn an income my share is at the lowest tax rate. We would walk away with around $60,000 net profit.
That would go along way towards enabling me to purchase two positive cashflow properties in growth areas.
We are always limited to the amount of neg properties that we can afford to buy.
I am still confused.
We have just set up a Line Of Credit, interest only equity loan. This should free up some more funds.
Would love to know what you decide to do with your South Hedland property.
And Ben
my 7-12% yield were calculated against purchase price 2 years ago. Kalgoorlie Boulder have several properties for around 6 and 7% yields. Mine might be one of them soon
Cheers
and thanks for you responses. I love this forum
Debbie
Thanks Wayne.
So keep the IP – but what do you think about the equity line of credit loan ??? would this be beneficial to us if we want to continue to purchse property ??
debbie