We have only been married 10 weeks. Lived the first 7 at my place and the last 3 at his. Neither have been tennanted. In fact, we still even have phone connections at both. This sounds too good to be true. Especially if we nick off to SA as we do not want to have to pressure sell either place before we go.
Fibejebe.
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Yes, and if you don’t buy a house to live in, you can both claim your houses as PPORs for up to 6 years complete with tenants. If you sell in the 6 years, no CGT. If you move back in after 5 years 11 months and live, you can then move out for another 6 years and no CGT (still not purchasing a house to live in and calling it PPOR).
I’m unsure how it works if you both have a PPOR, however I think you can both claim it as PPOR when selling if you don’t buy another house to claim.
Does that make sense?
Kinda. If we both move to SA and stay in rental accommodation ourselves, then technically we do not have a PPOR. So we can both call our existing houses PPOR’s as (at this moment) neither of them have been rented. Is that the jist of it?
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You can rent your PPOR for up to 6 years whilst still being CGT free. (But you can only have one PPOR at a time, except for a 6 month ‘changeover’ from one to the other).
Cheers
Mel
Hmmmmm. I think this is one that we need to run by an accountant. Thanks heaps for your response but I am still a bit confuddled about the whole thing.
We have a couple of retirement usints under construction that will settle in 4-5 months. We do not pay anything on them (not even a deposit) until there are tennanted out.
I have a workmate who has bought property in Broome (x2) and both times made it conditional on it being rented. I think you have to be a little careful on this tho as they may not scrutinise the tennants so thoroughly.
Fibejebe.
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Hi guys,
I am just wondering seeing we purchase property to benifit financially has anyone ever thought of being creative with a the contract of sale and request the the property be tenented upon settlement or at least be up for rent… Any ideas… Is it possible??
Found one in a real estate agents window last month. A couple of hours out of Perth. $20K. Rented to the CWA (Country womens assoc) Looked structurally sound. Was double brick etc.
Fibejebe.
Hmmm. Not too sure about these guys when they put Margaret River in Mandurah (Western Oz). I think they need to invest in a good map before they go listing properties on their site. If I had paid them $495 to find my place in the wrong region I would not be amused. And as a potential purchaser, I am not interested in filtering out those that are not in the area in order to find what I am looking for. As a business they need to get their facts right.
Fibejebe.
Thanks for that Sunshine. We will check them out too. Guess there is no reason why we cant list it on both sites. More likely to attract interstate buyers on australiarealty by the looks of it.
I am selling my PPOR as I recently got married and we have moved in to my hubby’s house. My place is a townhouse on the canals at Mandurah – Western Australia. It is in a block of 14 and one sold privately a few months ago for $500K. Because it isn’t your average 4×2 I am not sure how it will go selling over the net. Guess it is more important to word the advert right and get good photos up there. It’s rental potential is only $280 per week so I am not suggesting anyone here buy it. I bought it 3 years ago for $290K so nice little capital growth for me. A main reason why we are selling now is that there will be no CGT as it has always been my PPOR.
We would like to help my husband’s son own their own home. He is 30, married with three kids, currently paying $200 per week in rent.
Apart from if we win lotto and can gift them the deposit, we will have to recoup our contribution. What is the best way to do it?? Wrap? Lease agreement?? Lend them the deposit?? Other??
Bill,
Any chance of parts 1,2 and 3. We are just about to sell our Townhouse and are contemplating doing it privately. My husband has been a Real Estate agent in a previous life. The townhouse was my PPOR before we married so if we sell now, then no CGT.
Why is it that people are so scared of paying tax? The more you pay, the more you have earned. I would be worried if I was only paying 30% tax as I would not be able to live off the nett income. I therefore pay my 50% and look for legitimate ways to reduce it legally. However, I would still rather earn $2 and pay $1 in tax, then spend $2 to get back $1 in tax. Find a good accountant!! Can your husband look at salary sacrificing or cutting his hours if he really is anti paying tax? My goal? Replace my daytime income with passive income. Therefore, for the next 4-6 years I will be paying way more than my share of tax, but after that I can put my feet up and retire on a reasonable income. I guess it depends what your long term goals are and how long your husband intends to carry on working.
Fibejebe
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I am wondering…
My husband will have an income tax problem if he does not incur some deductions. On his current income he is going to pay 34% tax. He would like to get his tax down below 30%. Is negative gearing a good idea? Comercial or residential.
Yep. The Sydney Telegraph predicted that house prices were going to fall 20 percent. They may be right. Just not sure when tho as that prediction was published 7th June 2000. Can’t believe everything you read. It keeps the pessimists happily sad tho. [8D]
Hi MikeeJ,
OK I have searched their little workbook and can not find where it says copyright and need permission to reproduce etc so guess it is OK for me to post this here. This is just an example of what they did themselves. That does not mean that it will work for you exactly as per the scenario every time.
Can’t find $7900 into $225,000 but found the figures for $7900 into $125,000. Is that OK?
Basically what you do is find a 4 unit raw development site with a purchase price of $270,000. The Hanna theory is that you don’t bother negotiating price, but rather negotiate terms. So you offer $290,000 (yes $20K ABOVE asking price) negotiate 1% and 6 month option to purchase on the site.
Cost so far – $2,900.
Architects fee to draw plans for 4 townhouses = $4,500.
Council fee for DA approval = $500.
Total cost so far = $7,900.
Sell with DA approval to builder for $105,000 per site = $420,000.
Pay vendor 287,100.
Your instant income = $125,000.
Return on investment = 1,582% in 3 months.
The $230,000 freehold investment property is nothing new. When you do a big development rather than sell off all the units and pay yourself a taxable instant income, you keep one or two units for yourself and enjoy the ongoing passive income.They did this on a 6 unit project. Rather than take $260,000 profit in their hand, less what the taxman grabs, they took one townhouse and $35,000.
My husband and I already own a raw 4 unit development site so this was of particular interest to us. We really want to get into the development side of things but guess we lacked the knowledge at this point. It is funny really that everything we had talked about doing, the Hanna’s just reinforced. Guess we are on track but sure was good to have someone who has walked the road tell us that.
Hey, if you can get along to their seminar or workshop, I would definitely recommend it.
Fibejebe.
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Would you mind telling us what you learned. How do you turn
$7900 into $225000 in 3 months, how do you own a $230000 investment property in one year?
Unfortunately we don’t get the same opportunities over here on the West Coast. I can HIGHLY recommend the Hanna seminar tho. Here is their schedule. The 3 hour one is less than $70 so a very cheap investment. They actually tell you in it how to do things rather than just a promo for the workshops. Their website is morganpacific dot com They have seminars coming up in all capital cities. Adelaide tonight, Brizzie tomorrow. Excellant value for money.
Fibejebe
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No, haven’t been to theirs but would be interested to hear feedback. Am attending Peter Flannagan (Break Free Events) ‘Property Riches” 4 day seminar this weekend – have you (or anyone else)been to one of his?[]
David,
Just checked out your webpage. Can you advise of a good quantity surveyor in West Oz? We have two investment properties in Mandurah that we need depreciation schedules on.
Thanks,
Fibejebe.