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    Residex has some great reports.

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    Exactly,

    Thats why I said the average person should buy a ticket and go to the US.

    Engelo

    Nigel Kibel wrote:
    Engelo It comes down to the quality of the people you are dealing with. If you have a friend that you trust that is fine. However the average person is not in that position. Unless you are certain about the people you are dealing with on the ground you need to carry out due diligence. After all it is your money that you are spend. Remember a fool is easily parted with there money.

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    I bought my property without seeing it but have a good friend who owns over 60 properties in the US so I trusted him with his advice.

    A couple thousand dollars is not a lot of money to pay to go see things for yourself and meet people you will do business with face to face.

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    Agree with WI

    1 on 1 is the best.

    worldinvestor wrote:
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    Hey All want to get the opinion of investors who took these type of tours. We have been doing these for the USA investors but not for the international clients. We are trying to get feed back on what was good and what was bad on these type of tours.

    Any and all feed back would be great  If you flew over by your self and checked things out.Please feel free to chime in as well  Trying to get a idea to see if investors actually like these events and if so why or why not . Things like to many days, would you want to see multiple cities.

    Our thought process is no more then 6 _ 8 clients at a time. Again it is not all about numbers but customer service . I do think with to many people companies  would lose that one on one relationship  . I have been talking with one other market on here Florida if you all want to know. One of the larger groups in the USA just did 150 people three greyhound buses can you imagine.

    Thanks

    Sincerely

    Hi Alex
    Happy to give you my feedback but you probably wont like it.

    Personally I do not like these tour set ups, as every man and his dog is doing this and there have been many negative reports regarding some of these operators, ie quality of stock, hard sell approach. I understand this is certainly not your intension.

     I like a one to one, meet the person who is sourcing the properties, view the set up and then start to do my homework on what is being sourced etc.

    Cheers, WI

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    Hi Alex,

    No worries, I am happy to give my opinion.

    If you have previous experience with property investing in Australia or the US I think that 3-5 days spent in a city with experts like yourself, Jay, Kyler, etc… is enough to get basic knowledge on good and bad areas and how the market works in that particular area. I wouldnt be seeing more than 2 people at a time. The smaller the group is the better as its more personalized and you can really commit to understanding what the potential investor wants.

    Engelo

    Alex SC wrote:
    Okay how about I change title if you flew to the USA what are likes and dislikes for viewing properties and checking out different markets.

    What we be the amount of time to see each market. ( understand it takes much more then a visit to understand the USA ) so do think can be one trip and you know everything.

    Again just looking for feed any feed back thanks

    Engelo I know you came over recently jump in and help me out.Seems every one is getting quite..

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    I have just transferred funds into my US account. Long term I think the greenback will recover.

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    It takes time and effort to find them but they are definetly out there.

    Solomon10 wrote:
      Definitely sounds like the deals are still out there for those looking hard enough, and the media doom and gloom hasn't encroached too far into the members of this forum. Good to hear!

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    I would tidy up the gutters and eaves if needed. Get a gardener to clean up the bushes. Spray the roof and walls with 2 different colours.

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    Hi Rols,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Have you thought about holding onto the properties after renovating?

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    There is too much risk if your buying overseas for less than a 15% yield. I am finding 10% and better all day long here in Australia. Just bought a run down house in regional Australia for $22,000. After a $15,000 renovation I can walk it out the door for $60,000. It will return around 17% after all costs.

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    Well done,

    If you can get $450 in rent for both dwellings the numbers work well. Whatever is over that becomes a sexy deal haha

    Engelo

    NHG wrote:
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    Sounds like a great deal. How much rent are you getting? Did you pull out the equity?

    Engelo

    Settlement is on May 28th. I have a 3 bedroom fibro 1 street away renting for $360. This is a much nicer 3 bedroom brick veneer. Will rent it to existing owners mum for $340/wk which will benefit in that I can carry out repairs on the other building and claim deductions (all under one title).

    Talked to a few agents in those 20 mins before I made an offer :p and the whole lot would rent for $450/week. However renting it separately after council approval (already in the process) it should rent for about $620/wk minimum.  I don’t know why the place behind mine sold for $450k, I really wouldn’t pay more than $380k for something similar to mine in that area even in mint condition.

    Will probably sit on it for a bit, pull out equity in a year, study the Victorian market in the meantime. 2 properties and pumping money into granny flats at the moment has eaten up all my cash and strangled my cash-flow L (lesson learnt).

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    I only focus on the numbers in the deal. I like to manufacture the growth with a reno and not wait for it to happen. If I can find cheap properties that will put $50 per week in my pocket after all costs, I will buy those all day long. From the year 2000 – 2004 most properties all around Australia doubled, even in regional areas.

    Solomon10 wrote:
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    I havent started yet. I got caught up with a few other deals im working on so should be going to Coonamble in the next few weeks. Im negotiating on another cheapy, will post details if I buy. Its a cracker better than Coonamble..

    Solomon10 wrote:
    Thanks bardon.

    Hey engelo10 how is the reno on your 22k house coming along,finished yet?

    Wow must really be a cracker of a deal if it's better than your last. Are you concerned about lack of capital growth with all these regionals? Or just after the cash flow? I ve spotted another regional one it rents at 420 pw and sale price is only 180k,prob never get any capital growth though hmmm.

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    Sounds like a great deal. How much rent are you getting? Did you pull out the equity?

    Engelo

    NHG wrote:
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    Im finding good deals on a daily basis wish I could buy them all haha

    Feel free to throw them our way – haha :P

    Am struggling to find these great deals, still inexperienced. The last one I bought for $310k with two dwellings, the house behind just sold for $450k. To be honest, that was a fluke, I was actually on my way to see another house down the road and was curious why the real estate agent (who I had seen previously) hadn't mentioned it.

    Turns out the vendor was a nightmare to deal with, they never wanted to call him, and greatfully, not many people ever saw the inside of the house before me after months on the market. Realised it was a bargain and made an offer within 20 mins.

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    Jay,

    Have you written any books?

    Engelo

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    Hi Solomon10

    I havent started yet. I got caught up with a few other deals im working on so should be going to Coonamble in the next few weeks. Im negotiating on another cheapy, will post details if I buy. Its a cracker better than Coonamble..

    Solomon10 wrote:
    Thanks bardon.

    Hey engelo10 how is the reno on your 22k house coming along,finished yet?

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    Hey guys,

    I have done quite a few long distance renovations. 2 were done in the same town. The 1st reno I was on the ground project managing while the 2nd time around I organised everything via phone and only went to see the finished product. I establsihed a great relationship with the local trades and everything ran smoothely. If you can meet trustworthy people werever you purchase you will have no problems.

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    Im finding good deals on a daily basis wish I could buy them all haha

    When its an absolute cracker I will make it happen. Im not into developments as to many things can go wrong. I would rather stick to smaller deals with smaller profits but do them more often.

    Brick by brick and you build a house.

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    Hey Jay,

    Love these comments

    "Not to mention I can type 60 words a mintues and enjoy the bantor

    And I do not run anything through spell check so there"

    Wish I was that quick, im a 2 finger typer and takes me yonks hahaha

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    As Jamie mentioned. The best and easiest strategy is to buy a run down property cheap. Renovate and increase the value, refinance pull out the equity and us ther equity for another purchase. If you find a really good deal you could be positively or neutraly geared after you have pulled out the equity.

    Regards,
    Engelo

    Jamie M wrote:
    Hi Jason

    Welcome to the forum.

    Why not do both? Purchase a PPOR and then an IP afterwards.

    I've had many clients purchase their first home and then use it as a stepping stone towards investing. A lot of these guys have purchased properties that are in need of basic, cosmetic renovations. Upon completion, they generally value up a bit higher than the initial purchase price. We then access this equity which is used as the deposit/costs on their first IP. They often then repeat the process.

    Whatever you decide to do – it would be worth consulting with a decent broker about the structure of your finances. It's important to get this correct from the start. They'll also be able to run some scenarios for you.

    Cheers

    Jamie

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    Hi C-man,

    Send an email to [email protected] I am happy to recommend my contacts that I have bought through. They do everything you have mentioned on behalf of the investor.

    Regards,
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