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wow Julia!
er, come again….
Elves
Yep not much change from 1million in sydney
of course you could try peal beach near gosford, most up there are well over that.elves
Thanks all for the responses.
I would love to go along to meetings…did ask too..forget who though
Yep women have strong intuition, but gender aside we are all here for a reason…and I hope that along the way we can all add to someone’s learning….
cheers
Elves
Pisces and all
I have to do the right thing! I work for the government…LOL
However yup, not happy thats why people talking about their accountants, helps others see that something isnt quite right…
I once had a brilliant accountant, but she got well known, and too big and then went off to help politicians……
elves
lol
I will let you know…..I’m not talking about doing a transaction, research and finding out what people want was the first stage, expectations, goals, official stuff…lol not buying, heavens, these people mean well…
there are talkers and there are walkers..it isnt about patience…no one said lets buy now. I am not longer a MUG, where I do the running around, been there done that in business and in QUOTA
If people want something, they have to be a little prepared to do some work make the effort, it isnt about money, or knowledge, it is effort and enthusiasm, ideas etc…the rest begins to flow..
gee no one asked me for drinks…sob sob…
elves
to add about prices
in 1968 my parents bought their only home here for $6k, today it is valued at 650k
In 1980 I bought my first home- for 29k, nearly an acre of land, prestigious place up mts, I sold it in 82 for 67k I dont want to consider the price now!
in 82 I bought a home in QLD for I think 35k, I sold that for I think 69k, those ones are fuzzy, a time I rather forget….marraige split not long after.
In 85 WE bought a house back in the mts and rented, rent came off purchase price $57k I sold that when we did finally separate for $93k, not long time frames either Im talking 1987.
I then got in the rental trap. Single female, one child…ahhhhhhhh no hope.
I worked, got a block of land up the mts for $35k, it is valued at $150k
In 1980’s we did buy a block of land one of these qld investment scams..I got burnt, at 21, 17K didnt seem so bad, and the inlaws financed it, until we spilt then I completed the deals. It is now for sale at a modest price of 49k, so I dont loose much.lol
In 2001 I bought a home, for 181k, it is valued at $420k now in two years.
Other buys were 145k, now 210k in less than 12 months
157k also around 220k ditto
132k again now 220k just 12 monthsso for me doubling every 10 years is not the case….
As a kid I wanted to buy…but had no means and neither did my folks. The block I wanted was near a golf club, $2k, now 300k
so, even though interest rates reached up to those dizzying heights around 18%, my first mortgage was 9%! the rpices still went up adn people still bought.
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Elves
yup, my sister nearly killed me for not buying..thats three misses near there I better retire.
Some friends tells me Robina, hop skip and jump from gold coast, still older area of there thats not as expensive…but fropm what my other members tell me, quite expensive…not my area, or taste…
a coupke of years ago you could get houses near logan for 65K, but now they are 200 and over., not all, but gotta watch the areas they have pockets…
lol
I tried to start a property investment group at work
got one fellow a bit like me, keen as….got a gunner and a goer, but whats that saying? money talks….#$%#@% walks!
No references to you….mind, just my work mates.
Sometimes I feel like saying put your money where your mouth is, when one came to me and asked whats happening…I said to him “er you guys aren’t thats for sure!”I did a load of research before xmas and I wanted to set somethng in motion, a way of spreading the laod, but sharing the spoils and the knowledge….
cheers
Elves
lol
anyway PM’s are a tax deduction
Dont know about cheap, are you in QLD? once you sign a contract to buy you have to insure
shop around and compare, you know pick up the phone and dial….
They will insure anything…for a price! Try also terry shearer for landlord insurance..etc
exactly
I get the newsletter, but I find paying those kind of fees are exhorbitant
comeone women, lets start our own clubs…well men welcome too…lol
Prices have shot up between gold coast and eight mile plains that I know of.
I was going to buy a block of land in an estate a year ago, forget the place, just off the smith st exit on the freeway, new area, lots of expensive houses, bloack was 125k,next I looked near Dream world, a place called upper Coomera and surrounds, again around those prices, unfortunately I didnt, cant get a place there now.
Years ago near Pimpama, I was going to buy 5 acres…again, bailed out (had a hubby at the time who was conservative) I can only tell you that the prices in those areas at last look, were not cheap….do some research though
yep thanks
I already posted this to other forums, well about RP DATA
cheershi there
well I have no idea!
I go to buy shares, they go up, I want to sell, they are down, maybe its a strategy to keep my portfolio?I balance asset classes
I think we will see another rise in rates.
I think there has been a plateauing effect and we might see some dips in areas (property) but it will come again…it is just knowing whenI locked in rates before the first rise took place, my bank manager said not too, it wont happen…LOL but it did.
Who has a crystal ball>?
I’m holding on property, building some cash reserves to start again or barter later.
just my thoughts.
Cheers
ElvesI posted something about this on another topic, and it was about value and banks and real estates…
My bank would not let me argue the point on a property that their valuer said was lower than all the going sale prices over the last 6 months. They gave me a range. Full stop. If I wasnt in the range, I didnt get my loan. My bank manager even sent me the banks valuation and commentary, not sure too many banks release those details…ah he loves me!
lol
Values are based on area, demographics and other things that influence price…and this includes the negatives…..eg known to be a bad rating area, rather like an insurance policy. They rate the area. say on a scale 1 to 4, 4 being bail out teritory. Anyway, all efforts to bargain, or sway would not increase the loan amount. I gues she was protecting me, and not saying, oh well if she cant pay, we take her home…..sssssss.
Ultimately BANKS fo not like to do this, it is bad publicity and they want to avoid that.
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Elves
They have been around for a while, I bought a floppy once, but didnt do any more…too fiddly and time consuming for me…(but hey it was a while ago)
I dont think my accountant is working for me, I have to push issues!
Elves
Well there is value and value.
Banks always tend to be more conservative.
Now what I found out when I bought one place….
my bank had the valuers do a drive by (and no it wasnt with guns….sorry) anyway, this company that did the value, drives by checks the area and gives the bank the valuation.Thats what they base the loan on, usually a range, if the house fits in the range, you get the loan (percentages, deposits and all that aside)
Now, a real estate agent, is more driven by the market, to which they bump up the prices, often with too high an expectation, to suck a vendor in….trust me i’m a salesman! routine.
Would be investors – like me, add to the inflated prices…even if we knock them down.
Now to add to this, some real estate agents use RP data to access, sale history, owners names, lot and portfolio and all that for title searches….RP Data lists properties in NSW and QLD, other states I believe use a different system but similar.
These Data sites list the last sale price, county, size of land and other details, however!!! they are always a bit behind. Takes some time to list a property as being sold and therefore the price. Real estate agents have access to this (I guess user pays fee) Steve have you got access to this that gives you an edge to barter for a property?
For instance, you see a property last sold or bought in 1950 for $6k, the current market trend might be around $660k. Yep rub your hands together! If you have access to this, and can use it to your advantage..you can say offer a huge amount less…and just might be lucky…but it will depend on the demand in the area, might get gazumped on price….
anyway I digress, back to the bank valuation. They differ, they use different people, some enter properties, others just research the area and name a figure. Quite often they go on historical data, which is also out of date….eg demographics, which can work against you if you are desparately trying to get a loan!
At the end of the day…..one man’s junk is another man’s treasure, or supply and demand is determined by what people are willing to pay on the day.
sorry I have rambled!
Elves.
I have read most of the books by those mentioned, including Paul Clitheroes (a few) and many are property focussed
But there are many investment types and these diverse classes should not be overlooked in your portfolio. Note the old saying, dont put all your eggs in one basket!
Start somewhere even if it isnt in property, you can alwasy move sideways….
I found Margaret Lomas’ books very general or maybe I had read too many! I have to be in the mood to read Robert K’s, but found the Babylon book easy to read but with a message.
My library is full of how to books…get rich and stay rich by 40- types Wealth creation….to the point I give up, because they all have their own style, but are all saying a similar thing, and making money on it at the same time….I gave up reading and went out and did something about it.
cheers
Elves
sorry spelling mistakes….fingers are doing the walking tonight