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Personally, I deal with the nasty side, where what if’s occur. I dont advocate putting a property in one name.
You can argue in court that it was bought by both and you were married etc…if there was a bust up and there was a mortgage….the bank goes after …..
If someone dies?
Sorry but there are so many personal issues you need to consider, so go seek some advice.
I have seen some very interesting situations in property disputes…
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Elves
I drive from Sydney to Brisbane every two months, once I was doing this every two weeks- getting too old! and working at a regular job.
My drive with loo and coffee breaks takes 12 hours, I used to do the Syd(well a little west) to Gold coast in 10 hrs. I hated the trip from Woodburn to Coomera, it felt the longest drag of all. But then I have my other hate spots too.
It would never do for me to travel from Byron to Brissie, it seems so alien to me to do that. I rather drive 2 hours from Katoomba to Sydney.
The properties between those places has skyrocketted, so not for me either…
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ElvesFor all thanks for the great read.
For Sis, I like what you write
For everyone, someone wrote….I am not in this world to live up to your expectations, and you are not in it…to live up to mine, I am I and you are you….Frits perls I think…How about everyone agree to disagree? if that be the case..
Sis, I was in busines many years and not once did I ever worry about mentioning my accountant, in fact I have had 4, sometimes they go off the boil, like mine currently. I don’t like being taken for a ride, and the best recomendation is one where you have personal dealings.
Now I might add, you think at times, should I? This may be because you dont want your business being discussed, however inadvertently, with people you don’t entrust in the first place…and you dont want it to come back and bite you on the bum!
Professional people are bound by rules and ethics and any breach in privacy has consequences, so set aside some worries, just tell your accountant you gave the details out and expect to be swamped… Mine way back was extremely appreciative of the added promotion.
I dont need to know people, because if they strike up a relationship, be it with a solicitor or accountant, then that is between them, and I dont enter into the equation.
ON hecs, and free education, I missed the boat and was a mature aged student, and I paid my hecs. I think clear the debt, because it catches up at some time, and I dont like adding extra costs.
On Gifts, I rarely do this, I dont like spending to save a little, it would have to be most beneficial, and I can think of better things than a toy..LMAO
I just want to claim what I am able to claim and get on with it. Thats why I pay an accountant, sometimes you need to move on to new ones that are not stagnant, gungho accountants may not be the type for you.
I need to feel comfy with the person I deal with.
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Elves
There are misconceptions out there a plenty.
I agree with others about a balanced portfolio, and asset classes. But dont be fooled, there are balances within each category. Eg shares, blue chips only? Tecnology stocks or maybe mining etc etc Overseas markets
Proeprties, commercial? Rental, overseas etc…
I might add I am not THAT diversified as to contemplate overseas.
However, I also consider other assets in my portfolios, eg art antiques collections…..lets me play at other things and not be boringingly singular on IP’s….nothing intended towards anyone on forum.
I like shares for the fact that I can pick up and drop quickly, earn some quick dollars, if not I hold. It is a little more liquid, though the bansk are so keen at times, because of the fluctuations. Markets etc.
The financial planner I went to…..well you need to be aware of HOW they make their money and disclosures are to be given. Eg commissions But you can get planners who charge a fee and will credit you the commission so you know what the go is…it all depends.
I wouldnt mind being a financial planner, thats why I am planning my own investments!
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Elves
“True friends are like diamonds precious and rare, bad friends like autumn leaves, found everywhere…”
and I love walking thru the leaves in autumn…LOL
dont know who wrote it.
or you can put, to be upset over what you don’t have is to lose what you do have….
I posted elsewhere about keeping perspective and all that….we might move on, we might limit the information we have to those we feel either have earnt it, or deserve it in some way, those we feel dont, it might be trust, or simply not their business. I dont consider it half thruths.
Has anyone on here, avoided telling the full story? yep betcha…and not because of lies either.
I have lots of acquaintences, and very few friends, i am selective, nope it has nothing to do with property or money, or status or education…….its about the person.
cheers everyone
Elves
maybe do a few checks and searches. That is an awful lot of money in my opinion when you don’t know much about them- and I take it on board you are aiming to find out.
I rather control my $20k than let someone else do it and there are always fees involved…
Elves
mine is $20m
correct, and investment properties like Simon says do not offer you protection under the consumer credit code.
congrats!
It is good to have an update.
And I am sure there are many out there, who have their own path to follow doing the hard yakka too with families in tow.For those that feel the pressures of the hunt, be that jobs, new ideas, and family, I can only say this, there will always be new challenges, there will always be new things to learn, and people who knock you. There will be opportunities won and lost, but be warned the price can also be too high.
Keep perspective, be careful you don’t lose your friends or family in the process, because there is simply nothing worth that loss.
I nearly lost my daughter because I was trying to find a way to earn a living and not be on a pension, I was trying to provide for her when I had barely enough to put food in our mouths. My quest to provide even the basics, by going into business and taking the risks, well……..you know, you hear of people that say the hardest thing is waiting for a phone call, but you dread picking up the phone…….was my worst nightmare.
All I am saying is keep perspective, family comes first, there is no job so important…don’t kid yourself.
Hey its not a downer….set your limits and learn to take time out, because, tomorrow NEVER comes.
(it was a saying I learnt many years ago, tomorrow will always be that….tomorrow)
hmmn I thought there was a difference? maybe not in rates but in the *other* things in contracts for loans…maybe it has changed since I got my IP loans.
Insurances, are stamp duty fees different (on loans)
They definietly asked me if it was owner occupied! And insurances will too. be careful.
the answer is yes, it is common practice, but the bank told me they dont care once the loan has been approved. Situations change….
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Elves
I have used deposit bonds. Saves me using my own money, I use the banks but I pay a price for this.
I dont pay a deposit well only a $50 amount as such and put, if necessary the balance by deposit bond.The real estate like these, almost like a guarantee of getting the money anyway…
ask a bank the finer details…cheers
Elves
I dont have a list, but you would be shocked that sometimes the budget blows out because of something that was unseen, and it does happen.
Depends on many factors, like your solicitor, or pest person, builing inspector, depends on the amount of time, effort and expense, eg you might forego property and pest inspections (might be a bad choice), you might go to a conveyancer rather than a solicitor, you might invlove an accountant…
You might want to write things in a contract to save you some money, get them to fix things routine…
Loan charges and fees vary, shop around.
So I guess there are too many factors to be specific… cheers
Elves
Just my thoughts:
I bought properties just over one year ago, after trying hard to get a home loan. It took the only bank manager who actually listened and gave me credit, to get me on the path. About 10 others couldnt give me any hope. I pay usual rates of standard loans, no sharks here.
My properties now over two year span(includes my home) has equity around 400k. I was “lucky”.
My shares give me my income boost, around 6k a year. I earn slightly under average income, and I hate my job, but I see it as a stepping stone to provide me with income for….well I wont pinch that book title.
I have one child, who gave me grey hairs and cost me a fortune, but I love her dearly. She now has two children, so this nanny has enough to provide for myself and my family down the track. They are independant.
My will is up to date. Is yours? Very important.
I have trauma protection and a good death benefit to clear all debt should anything happen.
I didnt bother with income protection, I have enough leave to carry me and as far as I am concerned, I’d rather leave my job….anyway income protection only covers 75% of income and cost sooo much. Even if it might have some tax benefits.
My super ( I hate being forced into this when I can well manage my own funds BETTER) is worthless as I started in employment late. ( I used to be self employed and never beleived in super, but I did in other things)
My shares are ok, but I am in that for the long haul and I guess I am for the properties too. Maybe my grandkids will love me for it! lol
I dont have a partner, but I reckon if someone shared my beliefs and visions, there would be no end to possibilities (beside the usual…hehmmn!)
With not having a partner I feel a little restrained, because I only have $X disposable income and I am limited to what I can do on my own. Now I love tools (dont give me fashion magazines!) and the idea of renovating, but it is so much more fun when you have someone to share: the work load, the ideas, the fun etc…the goals..
However I have a sense of achievement. I worked hard actually to get where I am and no advice on how to do it. Risk takers are those who will make money. property and shares are a risk.
I believe however shares have a greater return.
I would love to buy and renovate.
I believe in a balanced portfolio and shares and properties are NOT the only means.
I would hold core properties and core shares, trading in others as I saw fit to make a quick quid.
Financial advisers….they arent all bad. But I decided to study it just so I would be more aware adn I am half way through the course for Dip in financial planning services…if I finish!
Cheers
Elves
“One thing this site has taught me is “Researching your purchases is paramount”.. it’s no good buying a + Geared property in a one horse town if the horse then leaves”
REDWING
– or closing the barn door after the horse has bolted
On another note, I locked in interest rates before they increased.
I think I will sit on some plateau, waiting to see the sun rise for my next wake me up call.
Howdy
The area I bought in has skyrocketed. Suffice to say I can’t afford to buy any in the same locality.
My bank manager here in NSW, asked me what the hell was going on and had I heard of a place, a little south west of Brisbane, Yes I had. What gives he asked. Dunno, must be all the NSwelchers! Apparently he has completed a number of loan applications for the area, and he had seen a dramatic increased in values.
Goodie I thought, then he knows that my own places have also risen dramatically….!!!!!! Time for another loan!
I have no answers for you, just do some research. I never had the whatever rules when I bought, I bought by my own rules and I let my own head do the thinking, at the end of the day what I am saying is, each to their own, your money,you make the choice….
But yeah do some research, consider the area, consider yield verses growth and anything else you might want to add in there.
cheers
Elves
I beleive there may be tax implications associated with the plan, but hey I’m no accountant.
A member of my family have rentals, and a resort investment. Not the expensive ones. There are times they go to get away.
These are units that are rented out, but they own and obviously like all these things they are seasonal, they are subject to the management allocating to your unit and there are cleaning fees associated even when you stay.
Management dont liek ti as they miss out on their commission rate.
Now not sure how your holiday home is going to work, you havent really said. Have managers let it for x times of the year, and the other you have? how are you going to work out a contract for this? Cleaning will be part of it.
I wouldnt think you would get full benefit from doing it this way and considering the COST of purchase, I would have second thoughts.
There are ways around it:
buy a cheaper place
buy it and dont rent it or let it out
buy an onsite van instead
buy into time shares, you can go overseas with those too.Personally if I was spending that much, i’d want it all for myself! I think I prefer 3 more properties earning a reasonably great rental income, that was stable and predicatble…than that way….
just my two bobs worth
good luck!
Elves
I’m sure there will those that make it and those that don’t, as in all walks of life.
Actually I thought most women picked the homes? or properties (married generalisation here folks!)
as in those that control the purse strings…lol
cheers all
I use deposit bonds, saves my own cash a bit
but all the properties I have bought so far have been signed actually on a $50 deposit if the truth be known.
LOL I can afford the $50 ….
One word here though. I signed a contract for a place that I had family members look at on my behalf, it was in another state. Subject to….the usual.
Hand over $50, and had to demand a receipt. I thought something dodgy here. So I travelled there, looked and got my building inspector ( I use the same guy) to come with me…Termites! So I backed out, naturally.
Shame- anyway, I couldnt get my deposit. so I went again on another trip, my solicitor asked for my paultry $50 back, and their solicitor tried to claim I had not done the deed in time, like issue notice…
In the end she threatened with some heavy duty legal action and still no $50…lol.
Well while I was there I went to find Mr Real Estate, guess what? Done a runner, in receivership, trustees appointed…but yep I finally got my prized $50 back.
Don’t think that you will win, I would have been mortified had I put down $3k and not know he had gone bust. Yes you can all tell me the money is held in trust….but, how many top guns have done runners with monies?
Elves
“the difference between a weed and a flower is a judgement” – dont ask me who coined the phrase but it wasn’t mine…
Hey I am cynical by nature (must be the scorpion in me) but I love people to do well, more than happy to share my perspectives and to give out tips, but so many …..er dont listen….lol
And not that they should, to me that is. I’m a novice but for me I have been to where- who was it? AD? said, 3 steps and on the third with two business dealings?
Well I have come from a family background in business. I started at the ripe age of 8. Went to work from High, then down the raod, opened my own business, then another and another, sold and moved on. Went to study and went back to business for 6 years, bought a second block of land, and started in shares (so I did it the reverse way around) then moved to properties. I couldnt get there until I went and worked for someone else…they didnt have lo doc loans then, and self employed people were considered unemployed!
So I went to work for someone! Bingo got the loans. SO I have done the steps, just waiting for the next ferry….to take me on yet more unchartered waters…looking forward to it.
but shall I pay the ferryman?
Elves
I felt I hit gold today! A garage sale with books! Not just any old books mind, Paul Clitheroes Road to Wealth, Jan Sommers…finance and budget books, I was in my element! All looked new, not read. and A steal…three books for the grand pice of…$10. I spent 20. Given the books had the prices on them, I also knew the prices, some $30 some $55. I felt good!
On the note of inspiration
what inspires me? Properties, properties properties. Seriously though, when I was studying at Tafe, there was this subject which basically was about culture and stake holders…it was about a Native group, losing their own culture, being drowned in alcohol. Now this might not mean much to people (except it sounds a bit familiar)but this one woman had enough of the hubby and men in town (they were on a reservation)and their drinking abusive ways and how the good drop was affecting them.She went to AA, started a group in the town, and finally got them off drink and back to their culture. It was called the power of one, and it was inspirational. Nothing like the Power of One by the other writer….Bryce.
Rather like a domino effect
Sometimes I wonder if it is a gift that these people have, either forsight, or sheer determinatin…..
just my thoughtsElves