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    Hello Kyla

    After 2 years, when your fixed loan period expires you would naturally organise an offset account for the loan and move the $10,000 into there.

    Actually if you sit down and work it out you'll see that it will only cost you an extra $200 – $300 in total over the 2 years that the money is in a high interest account instead of reducing the interest on your loan. 
     
    It's certainly not worth reducing your tax deductible interest for that as this will continue for the life of the IP loan.

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    Hello Adrian and Amber

    Thank you for that very helpful information.
    I now have a starting point.

    Cheers
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    That seemed so strange that I just had to have a look myself. :-)

    The link below is to the ATO site.

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/36887.htm

    If you look at the second example where the house was rented out for more than 6 years then CGT is payable on only the time that is over 6 years.
     
    Total time of house ownership                          5356 days
    total no. days rented                                       2556
    total no. days rented in 1st 6 years                  2191

    Extra income producing days                           365 days

    Portion of taxable CG  = Total CG   x   365/5356

    Not the easiest example to follow. Not sure why they made it so complicated.

    However, if my understanding of this example is correct then you only pay CGT on the days it was rented out above the 6 years but on the total CG over the whole period of ownership. That last part is not great.

    It's definately worth coming back to live, even for a short time, before the 6 years expires though I suspect if you make it obvious that the reason you came back was to restart the 6 year rule they will disallow it.

     Also if you rent it out for just less than 6 years and then leave it vacant till you sell that also avoids incurring CGT.
     
    Naturally a good accountant is the best source of advice.

    Can anyone supply me with a link to the information you found as it seems to contradict the info I found. ?
      
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    Elka

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    Hello drec0007

    Make sure you have good insurance ( house & contents, public liability & landlords )

    Enjoy the new job
     Elka

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    Hello

    elkam wrote:

    A redraw facility is the ability to re borrow any extra repayments you've made off your loan but you can think of each withdraw as a new little loan which has to pass the "purpose test". If you use a re draw for personal expenses, then even if the original loan is ( or becomes)  for investment purposes, then the interest on this amount is no longer tax deductible.  

    The sentence should have read as above.
    A loan is never tax deductible only the interest on the loan.
    Sorry if I confused anyone.

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    Hello Marl

    As imugli said, an offset account is a savings account with your money in it which is used to decrease the amount of interest you pay for the loan that this account is coupled to. You can deposit and withdraw from this account at will for both personal and investment purposes and it has no effect on the loan itself. 

    A redraw facility is the ability to re borrow any extra repayments you've made off your loan but you can think of each withdraw as a new little loan which has to pass the "purpose test". If you use a re draw for personal expenses, then even if the original loan is ( or becomes)  for investment purposes, then this amount is no longer tax deductible. 

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    mackar wrote:

    In London where some of the most expensive properties are to be found… but young 1st home buyers, buy a bedsit as their 1st home, then maybe a 2bed unit, then a townhouse & eventually work their way up to the house they want…

    I feel the quality of life here in Aus is great & I agree we've had it too good for too long… but i feel we will mirror the UK & 1st home buyers will have to work their way  up the property market. To think that your 1st home in life should be a detached home on your own parcel of land is not the reality of the future.

    FYI it was not the reality of the past for most people either.
    Most BBers started small / cheap and worked their way up.

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    Hello Joyce

    Here is a link to the ATO site that explains the situation regarding CGT if you rent out a room and declare it.

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/36910.htm&pc=001/002/026/017/005&mnu=5060&mfp=001&st=&cy=1

    Here is a link to a publication on the ATO site which you can download which explains all about what you can claim for rental properties. 

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00133187.htm&pc=001/002/013/009/007&mnu=45&mfp=001&st=&cy=1

    If you decide to go this route you should probably see an accountant.

    Hope this helps
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    Hello Marl

    Banks will usually allow you to top up your loan to 80% of the current valuation so if your unit will be worth $200K and you believe that your loan at the time will be $130K then you should be able to pull out $30K of equity.

    However, why would you do it this way ?.

    Instead of paying down your loan by $30K you should deposit the extra repayments into a 100% offset account linked to your loan. The interest saving will be the same. You will also be better off if your loan is IO rather than PI.

    When you are ready to buy the next unit you then use this $30K as deposit and costs. When you rent out the first unit the interest on the full $160K becomes tax deductible. 

    If you had paid down the first loan and then re borrowed the $30K to fund the second unit, only the interest on $130K would be tax deductible as the other $30K would have been for personal use (funding your home).

    Here is a link to a good explanation of the advantages and use of an offset account by Qlds007 

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/getting-technical/finance/4325393?highlight=offset%2Caccount

    But that hasn't actually answered your question. :-) 

    $30K should be enough as deposit and costs for the next unit if you don't mind paying LMI again. To avoid this cost you will need about $48K ( $37K deposit plus $11K costs) to buy another $185K unit.

    It's not possible to say whether you will be able to afford the second unit in 12 months without knowing how much negative gearing you can afford.

    When you rent out your first unit the figures will look something like this.

    Rental income   $10,400 =   (52 x $200pw)
     
    Expenses          $2080 =   ( normally about 20% of rent to cover agents fees, insurance, council fees, water, repairs, 
                                             vacancy period etc.)
    Interest            $14,400=   ( used 9% on $160K IO loan)

    Loss               $6,080=   ( $117 pw )  

    Of cause this loss will help reduce the tax you pay and you should also be able to claim some depreciation which will also help reduce the tax you currently pay.

    It's great to see that you have a plan to get where you want to go and are willing to do the work.
     
    Hope this helps
    Elka  

      
      

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    Hello IP

    Thank you for your response.
    I was hoping to be able to add in brick veneer and then probably render it to update the whole look of the place.

    Where would one go about looking for the plans used to build these units. Do councils keep these?
    Would they include details about the slab?
    Is there any way to have the slab tested?

    Excuse the stupid questions but I have never built anything or added a second storey before.

    Any advice would be appreciated.
    Elka

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    Hello YI

    Paying only the interest portion would be $525/month.

    $30,000 X 21/100 = $6300 / 12 = $525

    This is really expensive credit. 

    Hope this helps
    Elka

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    "Please learn your own economics : Housing costs are not in the CPI. End of story, this is an absolute, just look it up before you post nonsense like this."

    Now I'm confused.

    http://abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/Lookup/6401.0Explanatory%20Notes1Jun%202008?OpenDocument 

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    It has been puzzling me as to why Scamp, who currently lives in the Netherlands but is planning to immigrate to Australia soon, has been so passionate …… no, ….  correction…. obsessive …. about persuading us that the market is doomed and about to crash US style. This message has been drummed into forum members relentlessly even in threads when the question under discussion was specific and nothing to do with this topic.
    And not only on this forum. 

    Then I came across a post from harb which may explain everything.
      

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/help-needed/4325502
      

    You mean like your genius hoax ? 

     
    Scamp wrote:

    My genius plan was to advertise houses for 30% under the price of an auctioned house, with public viewings the same date as the auction, and the same times too, just to make sure I'm the only one at the auction
    Nothing a RE can come up with that I can't counter.

    http://forum.globalhousepricecrash.com/index.php?showtopic=35049  

    Is this another genius plan of yours to singlehandedly panic investors and cause a property crash so that you will get more bang for your euros when you get here? 
     

    Come on. Fess up scamp. 
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    Hello Collette

    Not sure what you mean by "signed the deed with you". Is his name on the title and/or on the mortgage or did he just guarantee your loan? Who paid the deposit and buying costs? Did you draw up any agreement at the time?

    No one here will be able to give you a definitive answer and you really need to go to a good solicitor with this problem. Take with you all the relevant paperwork including proof that it's you who paid the mortgage, council rates, water service charges etc. 

    If you post the area you are in there may be someone on the forum who can recommend a good solicitor.

    Good luck
    Elka

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    Hello Kenzel

    "LOC seems the common approach however how should I best utilise my offset balance of 10K? Should I dump it into the existing loan of 80K and then apply for LOC against the now 30K (20K + 10K) so I have more tax deductability potential (I've read this is called debt recycling from somewhere…not sure…) or should I leave it and use it to finance borrowing costs and prop. management fees?"

     Since you intend to move into your current IP as soon as it’s “paid off” I think that you will be better off paying the $10K currently in the offset account off the loan and then re borrowing it (either as a loc or a split loan?? ) to use for the next IP. This way you will be paying this property, which is to become your PPOR, off quicker. The re borrowed $10K will remain tax deductible even after this property becomes your home as it was borrowed to fund the next IP.

     
    As Richard has explained, if there is a chance that you will want another PPOR one day, you should then “pay off” the rest of the loan (now $70K) by having it in an offset account linked to this loan rather than off the loan itself.  

    If you can re borrow more than $10K from this property ( if the valuation is more than $100K now) it will help reduce the LVR on your next IP and thus reduce the LMI you will need to pay……… as v8ghia has already pointed out. 
     

    Your best bet may be to ring Richard, explain your situation in detail and get him to structure and organize your loans. It won’t cost you anything extra and at least it will be done right. Just a suggestion as your banker does not seem to inspire confidence.
     

    BTW. NO, I don’t know Richard except from his posts and NO I don’t get any commission from him.
     

    Hope this helps
    Elka

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    Hello Kenzel

    Just a small correction

    "2 months down the track I decide to turn this into an IP by switching to an IO loan (as from what I understand this signals to the ATO that your intentions for borrowing the money has changed and that it's now an IP – i.e. the balance owing is now fully tax deductable)"

    The above statement is not correct. The ATO doesn't care if your loan for an investment property is PI or IO. Just by renting it out and earning income it becomes an IP with the benefit of being able to deduct all expenses including interest.

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    Elka

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    Hello b0son

    You seriously need to see a good accountant as this could save you a lot of money.

    My understanding of the possibilities is a little different.

    The house in Adelaide remained your PPOR until March 06 when you bought a new house in NSW.  Under the 6 year rule it remained CGT free even though it was being used as an IP for a year.

    From there you actually have a choice. 

    You can continue to treat your Adelaide property as your PPOR and because the total time it's been rented out does not exceed 6 years, it will be CGT free when you sell.
    Naturally this has implications for your home in NSW as it's not possible to claim 2 PPORs.
    Your NSW home will have a CGT liability ( if you sell it ) from March 06 to the date you sell your Adelaide property. 

    One of the things you need to look at is which property has experience the most gain between March 06 and now. 

    However not declaring your NSW home as your PPOR from the beginning may  impact your ability to use the 6 year rule later if you decide to move again and want  to use the NSW property as an IP. Check this with the accountant.  

     " if you can prove that it was an IP for over 12 months then only 50% of gain is taxable at your marginal rate." 

    BTW  Sorry I may be wrong but I don't think getting the 50% discount on CG is dependent on it being an IP for over 12 months but you owning it for over 12 months.  

    Hope this helps
    Elka

     
      
     

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    I confess to being totally ignorant about Mildura so I'm ready to be laughed at for my stupid question.

    Surely a solution to the draught problem is necessary before one can decide whether Mildura will grow or shrink.
    Isn't most of the "industry" in/around Mildura related to growing "something". How is that  being manage with the draught. 

    I am actually more interested in a commercial property and am looking at this area as it's considerably cheaper than my old "home town" of Melbourne.

    Any info or leads as to where to look for info would be appreciated.

    Thank you for your answers to date.

    Elka

      

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    Hello Azalia

    I read your post and not knowing what adverse possession was I googles it.
    Below is a link I found to a firm that may be of help. They seem to work in this area.

    http://www.slatergordon.com.au/pages/stepstoanadversepossessiondispute.aspx

    Out of curiosity, may I ask, did your friends father die without a will and is your friend living in the house?

    Hope this helps
    Elka

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