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    Hey Made_Man,

    What size was your granny flat?

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    Problem with masonry walls are the footings required.

    The smallest footings allowable in the AS 4678 – 2002 is still a costly design with a substantial heel and toe.

    The interlocking blocks as mentioned earlier, do not require such a substantial footing, as the hydrostatic pressure behind, has better chance of escape.

    The biggest mistake people make when building retaining walls is a lack of "Adequate" drainage!

    What ever you believe is adequate for your purposes – double it!

    Hydrostatic pressure is the reason most walls fail!

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    One thing to note is safety.

    We often see many people do their own painting, which involves paint prep.

    For your own safety, and that of your family – conduct a simple paint test and check to make sure that the paint already on the walls is not lead based paint.

    Sanding of lead based paints allows lead to enter he bloodstream causing all sorts of health issues.

    Kids are most at risk as they are constantly putting things in their mouths, and are more likely to ingest lead!

    lead test kits are sold at most paint stores and hardware stores!

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    The Fox wrote:
    If you go back to the beginning of this thread and read it right the way through it is a classic. Well done Richard Taylor I say, who immediately identified what was going on with this thread long before the truth was ever exposed. Egg on your face to the builder though! 

    Some of the early comments are perfect examples of how so many people worship their gurus and hate to see anything negative posted about them.  <moderator: delete personal comment>

    But back to the topic………….."The gurus and their cult followings"………………now there's a topic that would get some reactions…………….none more so than the TIC brigade I'd guess Richard!  lol

     

    Nice one Fox,

    For the record – This Builder has no egg on his face!

    The original poster was doing what EVERYONE should be doing – Due Diligence!

    They asked if anyone else had any information on WAG!

    i had merely posted what i knew!

    That's it, nothing more, nothing less!

    The great thing about these forums, is the ability to share information with other like minded people.

    The bad thing about these types of forums, are the people who would rather turn these posts and forums into slanging matches, at the detriment of real information!.

    For the record – you will see i am NOT a one post wonder – and do my utmost to be a part of this great community, and help with information i have, when i can and I have never had my posts moderated!

    The most important thing to note here, is to ensure you do your due diligence, and propertyinvesting.com is a fantastic tool to do just that!

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    As mentioned above, you CAN build for $800 per SQ/M.

    We offer Granny Flat Kits that come in below this price!

    That said, it does NOT include floor coverings, services, councils etc.

    This price will get you a fully compliant Granny Flat to Lock up Stage –

    That is internal and external linings, doors and windows are in-

    You would still need to source services and joinery (Kitchen etc)

    We supply our Granny Flat Kits as a total package, and they are built from SIPS

    These panels allow you to build much faster than the average timber frame and brick dwelling.

    Our 60sq/m model takes around 3-4 days to build to lock up stage.

    So yes – it can be done, but there will be compromises along the way.

    Our Kits have been designed with the budget conscious in mind.

    They are a very basic unit, however they can be clad in just about any style cladding you like as your budget allows!

    So it really depends on what you are expecting as a final result!

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    Hello Danviv,
    hope your project is coming along as you require.
    These prices are fairly accurate, give or take.
    Our bathrooms tend to average 12-15k if we supply all of the PC items etc (This inc tiles, vanities, bath, tapware etc etc)
    This is for an average sized room withe good quality middle of the road PC items.
    I concur with what has been already said above, and get a builder to do the renovation.
    That said, i am biased as our company regularly does bathrooms for our clients.
    Therefore, i would like to explain some of the processes we do as a building company, that may be overlooked if doing it yourself, or through the bigger companies where you are a number-

    1- We always check your framework including your sub floor for any dry rot or damage, and make allowances to repair
    2-We always ensure you get a form 16 for the waterproofing and shower screen- this ensures you are covered, should anything happen down the track
    3-We ALWAYS replace the combination, regardless of age- the welds on these can deteriorate over time, and especially with the knocks they receive during the demolition stage. therefore, they always get replaced as a matter of course!
    4- All vanities get sealed with silicone on the inside of the unit. As most of the vanities come out of China now and you have no real way of knowing for sure if they are Australian made or not, we ALWAYS seal the insides of the vanities. the reason is that the melamine board they use is inferior to the board used in Australia, and does not take water well. So as extra insurance against swelling from “possible” leaks we seal them all.
    5-We build to exacting standards, and ensure everything is built to the building Codes of Australia, and also built to Australian Standards 1648 (Frame), 3740-2004 (Waterproofing) and 3958.1-2007 (Tiling)
    6- All jobs are registered and insured through the BSA,

    These are just a few reasons to use a smaller contractor, just remember a few things-

    1 always ask for referrals. If a friend has recommended them, this is a good start, ask for photos testimonials etc
    2- Have a simple plan of what you want, and a list of the components you would like. If you don’t know, ask if they have any photos of PC items they can supply
    3-Whoever you end up choosing- A cup of tea and a couple of cookies goes a loooong way to ensuring satisfaction ;-)

    good luck with the project

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    Don’t know if you have already done the job or not.
    It is not load bearing, so you are safe there.
    There doesnt seem to be any services visible.
    These nib walls are really easy to remove.
    We try to keep them intact, as it is easier to transport in a whole wall, tiles still attached etc.
    you remove the shower rail, and then you need to start levering the wall away from the floor and the attached wall using a pinch bar. Once the wall has been removed/detached, we get our huge Kiwi labourer in and he picks up the wall and takes it to the bin.
    if you don’t have a front rower at your disposal, remove the tiles and the sheets in sections.
    If you use a large screwdriver and hammer, you can usually work the point of the screwdriver between the substrate and the timber frame, then work in a pinch bar and carefully loosen the substrate.
    Remember to use gloves and goggles, as the tiles can splinter, throwing little shards, and the edges get very sharp!

    good luck

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    Get the whole lot re-done.
    it is the only way to ensure you have a bathroom that will last the distance.
    Would hate to spend $4k on a partial, only to find out 1-2 years down the track that the joists were rotten and are moving,  and the new floor tiles have started to crack!

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    Darklord,
    i doubt you will have the space necessary as you will need to ensure the ceiling meets the fire code as set out in the BCA. This will add a min of 30 odd mm to the underside of the joists (Min)

    Oddyssey

    Yes, it is up to you what you do…..to a point
    The insurance factor is one point
    Another is that when it comes time to re-value your property, you still have a 3 bedroom home, and a HUGE  "Storage" area downstairs
    However, if you went through the right channels, and everything was legit, you may have turned that 3 bedder into a legit 5 bedder with media room.
    Not an expert, but pretty sure there would be a significant increase in equity !

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    With Karen here,
    Paint
    Floorcoverings
    Lighting
    These are your 3 biggest bang for buck items

    Also landscaping, amazing what a picket fence, and a bit of landscaping can achieve!  Looking for street appeal!

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    Hey Amazing Jeffery,
    The tiles were pretty bad, as they were very drummy.
    This is THE biggest issue with tiling, doesn't matter how slow and careful you are with the layout, the issue is the preparation. Some types of glue will not adhere properly to some types of waterproofing.
    The BSA recently held seminars here in Bris to highlight the need for a super clean site prior to waterproof and laying of tiles.
    The other issue is the look- If you decide to lay the tile yourself, and you mess the job up, even just a little bit- you cant relay the tiles. It's not like painting, where you can just keep at it till it looks right!
    I have extensive experience tiling, and for this reason , i always use my qualified tiler ,  just not worth the problems.

    As for what can you do to save money, and get a mickey mouse bathroom-
    If you are using a builder, tell him that you want to do the demo, he will be able to organise a sparky and plumber to isolate the power and water to allow you to work safely.

    If you are handy with a pinch bar and a hammer etc, do the demo yourself-
    First ensure the lining is not asbestos
    Next- wack on the safety gear- goggles (Sealed ones, not just glasses) gloves, and sealed shoes. The tiles get very sharp when broken and removing from substrate.
    Remove all PC items, tiles, lining etc. You want to completely gut the room, and bring it back to bare timber.
     

    If you are handy with a power-saw, screw gun etc
    Check all of the subframe timber, and studs, and repair as necessary. Remove all dry rot, as this is like cancer for timber, and will continue to spread. You can get treatments for dryrot, to stop the process.
    Double check all of your studs, make sure everything is plumb, and the room is square (As much as possible) as your tiles will highlight a room that is out of plumb or out of square.

    At this stage you get the plumber and sparky in to do his/her rough in.
    Regardless of budget, make sure you replace the combination for the taps, as the demo may have weakened the welds, and the last thing you want, is to spring a leak in 2 weeks time, and have to rip tiles off the walls again. Ensure your plumber changes this!

    If you are handy with a tape measure and fibro shears, you can have a crack at installing the lining.
    If you have a timber floor. you will need to lay tile underlay (Even for wet beds). Tile underlay for the floor requires a HUGE amount of nailing, so this is one area you can save some dollars, just spend an entire Sat on your knees, nailing down the tile underlay
    (Your builder will LOVE you for it)

    From here on in, the result will be visible, so you need to ask yourself whether you want to risk the job, or get a professional tiler in to do the job!

    good luck with the project, hope this helps you out a bit

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    Hey Danviv,
    Our IP bathrooms normally set us back about 6k to do properly, but then i am a registered builder and being in the game helps alot.
    We do many bathrooms for private investors here in Bris, and the average cost is between 10-15k depending on who is supplying the PC items, and the quality of PC items.
    It really pays to ask around for a good quality builder or tiler, as this is a much bigger consideration than budget in my opinion.
    Example – 2 weeks ago, we quoted on a bathroom which had recently been done (18months)
    The owners had only paid a small sum and got a “Handyman” in to tile etc.
    The result was we have to totally rip out the bathroom, and start from scratch.
    Yes the PC items can be re-used, but at the end of the day, they will have spent far more than if they had it done correctly in the first place.
    Due diligence should apply to any reno and really screen your trades.

    good luck with the project

    Adrien

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    Have to be careful extending into the garage, as there is one major pitfall.
    Some builders choose to save money by not laying plastic under the slab in the garage/carports.
    If this is the case with your property, you may find issues with rising damp, and may have issues getting certification

    good luck

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    Congratulations Draidis,
    Good to hear you have purchased 4 units.
    You have not detailed whether you will be on-selling or renting.
    The others here have addressed the hard floor vs soft, so i will address the question you have asked in regards to laminate flooring.

    The great thing about laminate flooring is the ROI. Cost very little and looks great. They are ideally suited to heavy traffic and we use them to great effect in our commercial fitouts.
    However they have their limitations- WATER!
    Laminate flooring can not handle water well and will swell and buckle a few days after spilling a drink, or getting moped. Time and again we see these brand new floors go into a domestic property only to be ripped back out a few months later.

    So if you want a visually high impact flooring to help sell a property- then by all means get the laminate flooring

    If you intend to rent- then steer clear and opt for carpet or tiles

    good luck with your project

    Adrien

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    If you are looking to take time with our reno's then go for a house or town house.
    We used to get units and usually reno'ed within 2 weeks, then straight back on the market.
    As mentioned above, spend money on what can be admired, and create space where you can.
    There is much more to it, but if you have time, you can do so much more, and keep control of the budget

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    You could patch the holes with Fibre cement sheets and gyprock.
    You will need to cut the Fc sheet into the same size as the fist holes.
    Then you get some 2×1 cut them so they are a little longr than the holes, put a few long screws into the timber to hole it and some liquid nails at the ends of the timber. Work the timber into the hole, using the long screw as leverage
    Get  a second batten, screw through the second batten, through the hole and into the first batten  to help holed the first batten until the glue sets.

    once the glue sets, remove the batten from the outside part of the wall, and screw your FC sheeting piec into the first batten, which should be secured to the inside of the wall

    Coat over the top with gyprock.

    Or call a Gyprocker in

    good luck

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    All these old houses had an alcove for the oven and fire wood.

    I would definitly redo the tiles in a plain white.
    The doors and end panels cn be re-done in the same material. Most of your local cabinet makers will quote you on this work.

    I would also take the opportunity to add a high bench where the sink is, and turn that into a breakfast bar, as this will increase your bench space

    As mentioned, keep your WM seperate to your eating area

    good luck with the project

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    Renovating for profit is a great way to go- If you are educated about the pitfalls.
    Unfortunately, sooo many things can go wrong with a renovation, and you could find your reno budget blown out of the water in next to no time.

    Do your due diligence, and maybe start small, like a unit reno or the like to begin with.
    You will find a wealth of information on this forum,

    good luck

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    Do NOT install "Clip Boards"
    These are known as a "Floating Floor" and although they initially look great and are cheap, your tenants will wreck hem within the first 6 months- Guaranteed.
    The issue with these boards is that they don't accept water at all. None. Nada. Zip
    we lay 1000's of sqm of flooring every year, and floating floors are great for commercial areas, shops offices etc, but not for residential.

    Solid timber and my favourite Bamboo, look great and wear considerably well, however, they will be expensive to lay, especially if they are going down on a slab (Assuming you have a slab).

    As much as i hate carpet, this is he cheapest option, or ceramic tiling.
    Carpet can be laid in a day and is very cost effective, whereas the tiles will take up to a week for a full house.

    Hope this helps you make an informed decision

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    You could drop it to 2700 high, as two sheets of 1350mm gyprock would get you there,! alternatively, lift the sheets a bit, and install bigger cornice, as was the norm back then, and you could "almost" get to 2900mm high ceilings

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