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I have placed info on todays blog about a cheap renovation deal on TV.
People did a Vendor finance deal.
No deposit home sale in exchange for a completed renovation in 6 weeks – the handover day!
Enjoy!
William Price
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I have placed info on todays blog about a cheap renovation deal on TV.
People did a Vendor finance deal.
No deposit home sale in exchange for a completed renovation in 6 weeks – the handover day!
Enjoy!
Winterheart…….
Hit the nail on the head!
I love being a Plumber.
I do not have an issue with overseas workers in a political sense, but this year I was fitting out a government building built for investors on the University campus.
We had the choice of using Australian or Korean teams of tilers all for a few thousand bucks. The 541 VISA I think!
When the job was handed over for the final inspection for students to move in, we had been able to finish the building 4 months ahead of schedule using the Korean tilers.
TIME is Money!
On the final inspection we turned on all our showers and tested the bathroom fixtures. The Korean tilers had done well to use a cheap tile and get the work done whatever the demands, HOWEVER……Every single bathroom had water running away from the floor drainage and out the door, down the hallway and out into the unit living areas.
Simple leveling is a basic and fundamental law of trade skills.
My example: Plumbers are here to Plumb the work so the hydraulic system of plumbing works!
This means there are correct levels, falls and directions all trades need to understand.
William
PS: Pricing work involves your service guarantee of quality and client satisfaction.
NEWSFLASH for Tradies:
1 – Read E-Myth Contractor – Yellow pocket book about $20 bucks.
2 – Understand the cheaper your service the more complaints you get.I worked in Property Management, in a Banks doing Home Loans and I learnt something valuable about price and service.
The best outcome for a client to tradesman partnerhip is to offer a premium service, premium product and a premium ongoing service guarantee.
So when the work is finished there is a 30 day, 90 day, 6 mth and yearly contact points to reconnect with your client.
If you do cheaper work, your client WILL complain more. The corners cut in the beginning to save money in the beginning will affect your reputation as the product will require a larger service commitment.
When looking after your client you need to keep in contact and keep them informed about the valuable info on how to look after the product while you look after the service.
Consider specialising as this will reduce service ambiguity and service guarantee confusion.
eg: If you give a 12mth or 7 year guarantee make sure sure you are the best at it. If you work on taps do not do the guttering unless it is part of your guarantee.
WHY?
If the client is happy with your tap service guarantee but the guttering work you did is not of the same standard or price then a small leak in the gutter will represent the entire experience of your client.
The client who arges on Price will always bother you for more service above and beyond reasonable clients who pay a fair price for excellent service.
I welcome the opportunity of pricking the bloated bladder of lies with the poniard of truth. Winston Churchill (writer Aneurin Bevan)
William
PS: COST: You can call roofing franchises and get a roof respray quote for $10k or get your local guy with testimonials and pay $3500 – $5000.
chpropdev wrote:I come from the UK – So, my general thinking is that sparkys are expensive.The question is why? I don't think that that more people die or have their houses burnt down in the UK than in Oz.
Its the same with plumbers. Why do I need a plumber to put on some roofing on a carport, change a washer, put in a laundry tap, fix a stand pipe?
Andy
I am not sure about Electrical work, but I think this may be an important reason. In England the voltage is 110 and in Australia it is 240.
110 you can survive, 240 you can die or cook.
If you want to learn more about how to do Plumbing, consider buying the Australian and NZ Plumbing Standards 2003.
Read and they will tell you what you can do.
WIlliam
L.A Aussie wrote:oneplumber wrote:L.A. Aussie – would you stay on the back foot if you were passionate about your profession?Maybe not, but my profession doesn't have an image or public perception problem, and if/when I was made aware that there are a few areas that needed improvement I would accept that criticism and look to making improvements; not tell everyone "well, take it or leave it – you need us we don't need you". There are different ways to accept criticism.
Being critisized doesn't automatically mean you need to get on the front foot. Take it on the chin and use it for ways to improve.
Here's an idea; put together a customer survey form that you give to every customer. I've never seen one in the trades. There is only word of mouth; the good guys get more work, the bad guys don't. Unfortunately, bad news spreads faster than good.
List on it every aspect of your business, from reliability, to work standard, pricing, customer relations (attitude and behavior – such as dealing with pain-in-the-ar*e clients which everyone has to deal with).
Or don't; it's your job, I don't really care if you are offended or not; are you personally offended, or upset that the industry as a whole is copping a blast?
If you are personally offended because you yourself do a good job while many don't, then find a way to improve your industry so the bad guys don't make you look bad.
I'm just trying to help you all realise there are areas that can be improved.
Thank you LA Aussie
Golf a sport that destroys the environment, gets land for peanuts in 3rd world countries and redevelops it and flogs it off for a motza!
The sport of mind and body and the contradiction of creating the lottery mentality in the dreamers and satisfaction in the worker.
If image is what tradies need, maybe I can learn from golf, soda companies, cigarette companies, retirement village projects, Financial planners, Offshore scammers, drug companies, bla, bla….
You see your comments above are getting closer to an issue.
What do clients want for their money?
I know a carpet franchise owner who owes nothing on his business, so on every sale he only payes the franchisee per metre (very low cost) so everything is cream everyday!
If your arguement is for better client partnerships I am happy to learn, but pricing arguements and degrading comments of how easy it is and so on, is like just about anything on planet earth.
What is your time worth?
If the pharmacist took a day off surely a successful pharmacist would know he would make more money making sales in his business then doing renovations at home.
As a tradesman (with a supportive wife)I can pretty much handle every task for my family, finance, cashflow, love, home projects, investing, children, sport, community activities, business building, charity, on and on I go.
I am not so silly as to try to save some pennies when I understand my time and capacity to earn far outweighs the inconvenience of investing my capital in whatever me and my family needs and wants and thus helping other people with their ability to earn income.
If we need a car service I used to do it, but I learned if I work on my business I will gain a greater return, thus my time is my most valuable asset, although continuing to write this blog is taking its toll.
Off to share home made pancakes with my family on the beach and then going to help local friend with cheap and supportive plumbing work on a Sunday!
Good day!
andy28 Quoted – I took time off work from my job to do it myself, for better economy… I'm a pharmacist.
A Pharmacist…… Where you get 10 versions of a medication priced from cheap to blantant theft.
A truly great profession undermined by doctors and drug companies.
You have got more problems then tradies… I have a very successful pharmacist in my family and a school friend.
I congratulate you on choosing to do the work yourself. As a tradesman I think more people should do the work, but they think it is below them or they stuff it up and then ask us for free advice.
When you have a great pharmacist they will grow with your family, the same for a tradesman!
Thanks again!
L.A Aussie wrote:
Me,The preception is that tradies are generally;
Arrogant,
Aggressive,
Have a "fu*k you'" mentality (chip on the shoulder),
Unreliable,
Crooks who will scam you if given half a chance,
Unprofessional; probably a bitter high school drop out with no business skills.Mmmm…. You seem to be the only professional who has been using foul language and forceful generalisations.
Your perception needs work…
William
Lic. Plumber, Dainer Gasfitter
B.Commerce
Cert. Bus Coach
ecL.A. Aussie – would you stay on the back foot if you were passionate about your profession?
L.A. Aussie QUOTED:
And, you guys confirm our views, because everytime someone brings up a tradie critisism on this forum, one or more of you guys gets on the front foot an attacks. You can’t handle it at all; get all petulent and aggressive.
I never see you guys get on here and say “gee; thanks for that criticism, I’ll use that information to go away and improve my professional approach to my career and become a better tradie”.
Hello LA Aussie,
Your form is poor, please stay in L.A.
Consider reading some of the positive posts in this forum topic.
My brother went to Uni with me and I also have a trade and he resents the amount of income I earn. I should send him your posts, you may get along.
I ride in charity events with many different tradies and I also enjoy the company of sussessful property developers with 20 years experience.
The key once again with all work, all money and all success is how you relate to PEOPLE.
If tradies or anyone else coping your abuse is so bad maybe your attitude toward people could do with improvement.
You post is incorrect. To generalise with massive sweeping statements is above and beyond acceptable behaviour and I congratulate you on the decision to cause controvery instead of learning.
Regards,
Professinalism and respect and a great sense of humour would help save this thread.
Doctors dislike Chiro’s
Investors dislike unprofessional tradies
Criminals dislike cops
Bosses dislike ambitious young workers
bla, bla, bla, blaTry not to compare a collective politically motivated add about the industry with the great community service electricians supply to the public.
Plumbers joke that we enjoy a better trade then Electricians, but the fact of the matter is we would rather service your waste then play with electricity – something we cannot SEE!
Yes we can learn and I have met a few unlucky Electricians who have had to retire because they did the 240 Volt dance a few times, but you choose a direction in life and then you commit.
Commitment to being an Electrician, a life skill, is the same as committing to investing. Do it right or get burnt.
William Price
Lic. Plumber, Drainer & Gasfitter.
Bachelor of Commerce.
Certified Business Coach.PS: I would love to achieve my Law degree.
merryc wrote:oneplumber wrote:The media reckon Doctors kill more people then Electricians.Good point. Maybe if we gave Doctors beer when they treated us, they might do better too.
VERY FUNNY!
The media reckon Doctors kill more people then Electricians.
When paying $350 a day………
If you can get a plumber for $350 per day you are on a winner, forget the other whinging.
As a plumber I thoroughly agree with the professional use of time and labour measurement to reduce ambiguity and develop TRUST.
Some blog responses are getting a little personal and money can do that, so here is what I believe a Plumber should.
EASY IDEA: All Plumbers (tradies too!) need to supply a Labour Cost/Charges Menu.
Their clients can access online, or in a pamphlet format.
The labour cost of work by task and time is clearly shown. eg: toilet installation labour charge $150.00.
Supply a short terms and conditions list. eg: does not cover replacing tiles on floor or organising a painter to paint exposed wall.
A good plumber can create profit from an organised and upto date Labour Price/Charges Menu.
Clients win because they can better plan their time and money and are happy to build the PARTNERSHIP!
In my experience any unforeseen extras are usually agreed easily because TRUST was created in the beginning by sharing information and gaining permission to do the work.
I do it, but I have being learning better ways for 15 years. I call it my 15 year business apprenticeship.
Thank you.
Generally speaking you can do a painting apprenticeship based on the traditional Master Painters program.
In todays fast paced construction industry these skills are not being passed on.
So in response to my statement; it is difficult to locate a Master Painter and if you locate one, I suggest you pay well because their work will last a long time.
Millions I love your style.
NEWSFLASH
Painters are not tradesman.
What profession are you blogs?
Let us learn from you.
Milly the days of something for nothing are few and far between.
User pays is what Australians want.
I am a Tradesman and a Uni Graduate with a milion other training courses to boot with good investor experience and bad investor experiences.
Is England a different voltage to Australia for Electiricity?
Tradesman also do higher volumes of work so if you want to spend all day working or getting a tradie to do a quick and better job then you need to look at your own value.
Is one hours work from a tradesman worth 3 hours of your time on this planet.
The skill level and time effectiveness far outway the benefits of your valuable personal time.
It is all relative.
One of most common comments from my clients is: 'That was quick; it is amazing to see the same work done better and quicker then I can do it'.
I wonder what other professions get the same demand jealousy?
Finally for Plumbing. I have travelled and visited some beautiful 3rd world countries and all they really need is a couple of public policy things to be like us.
1 – Good electricity.
2 – Garbage collection and waste management
3- Sanitary systems
4 – Water control and service systemsSo the people who are taking Electricians, Plumbers, Waste Managers and other important parts of a civilised community need to breathe and open their eyes as to the importance of systems.
You have an investor system so how is a system of protected trades designed for public health any different?
Thank you.Plumbing apprenticeships are now 4 years with regular training throughout PLUS another 2 year business training from this year.
I used to know Plumbers who took advantage of people, but they are a dying breed. Plumbers and their clients are people who need to show each other respect. Bad plumbers do not have many plumbers as friends.
Sometimes the most expensive plumber is not your best bet. On the other hand when a property owner leaves all plumbing until it is broken then they will usually have to consider replacing the complete fixture.
Regular property maintenance will keep your plumbing problems on a small scale, last minute or no maintenance at all will make your plumbing problems major and expensive.
It is up to the property owner to learn how to deal with plumbers. Plumbers are people with skills in demand.
I know plumbers who work to their own value and also allow themselves room to charge people what they can afford. This comes from a willingness to build partnerships.
I wonder if the above WHINGER gives anyone a great experience in any part of his life.
I hope this BLOG will help you find more info to save money and time on your Plumbing.
http://www.plumbingtips.com.au
William.
