I lived in Frankston North years ago. I was paying $150 pw rent for a 3 bed 4 car garage house a street back from the shops. This is when I was 21. Being obsessed with property I cornered the neighbour and asked about the house. He told me it had sold (we were first tenants in) for $114,000. So you tell me? Sounds like a good return. Same properties are now anywhere between 220-240k.
Then later after moving back from Perth I lived in West Footscray. The guy had a 2 bed house and we were paying $220 a week rent. The housing in that area at the time were worth nothing.
I have to say living in dodgy areas keeps your heart beating. I have not had any problems (robbed etc) in the dodgy areas but after moving to a "nice" area friends of ours a couple streets away were broken into and had laptop etc stolen. I think with dodgy areas the people around know they have no money and are not worth robbing
Also there are people who have grown up in those areas and will stay on, you get elderly people who have lived there all their lives (when it used to be a nice area and then through the bad times, like when the pub was called the Gundowner) and when I lived in Frankston North it was full of old people, I was the one with the noisy V8.
And just for anyone who would like to know I have lived on three sides of Melbourne, in Perth and in Sydney. Gypsy lol. Maybe Queensland next??
I think you should remember as well that not everyone wants to buy a house. Not everyone wants the great Ozzy dream of a lifetime mortgage. Renting no longer has the stigma attached to it that it did years and years ago. My parents bought their first house when I was 18. They rented for ever until they could afford to buy in the sticks after the 90's recession. Years ago you only rented coz you were poor.
A lot of people won't ever own their own home as they simply don't want to. There are also a lot of people who don't want to invest in property. An ex friend of mine refused to buy property as she did not like rental managers. She bought her own home but boughts shares as her investment. There are many people who simply believe (dumb yes) that property is a bad investment and that tenants will trash the place and you will lose lots of money.
Then there are the people who get moved around the country for work. You can pretty much count them out for buying a home to live in as they might have to sell in a year or two. They might buy investments but still never own their own home.
Try not to get too down on this Sash. Yeah I see what you mean, but try to distance yourself from the herd "oh man I will MISS OUT" mentality. Those people who really want to own property will beg, borrow and create ways to own what they want. You only get as far as you want to in life. And in investing. And plus there is still plenty of cheap properties to buy. It is just that nobody wants to own an investment first or a house that is further out or that needs work.
You are doing great, I wish at 21 I'd gone for investing and not listened to every other idiot. Now I listen to me. (And a heap of people who have been there and done that)
Yeah, but where are your pre election lies and promises? What sort of reforms will you plan then back out of either before implementing or in the middle of? Plus do you look good in Speedos? LOL
There is a documentary on people living in Lagos. There is about 1000 people living on top of the tip in houses made form scrap. There is 16 million people living in the city. The future where you can't afford to live in a house?
Yeah after seeing the program if we don't take home a LOT of information that will help our investing I'll be very surprised. And as for selling, there is selling everywhere. You just take the add breaks on TV for granted now…
What like the flat lining that happened after 2003 and took this long to get going again?
I have to say that yes property will look cheap (GOM I am playing devils advocate here BTW) compared with Pakistan but the average wage there is like $15 a week.
Look it is great that we can afford property and all have jobs (mostly) to repay loans for 30 years. But that is the whole point. We are basically signing up for indentured slavery to pay off somewhere to live for 30 years. 30 years.
30 years! It is a long time. That means that the whole country HAS to work to pay for their PPOR. This is great for the govt. They have a whole country of people that have to work and pay tax because they have to pay off their house.
Just putting a different perspective on this whole affordability thing.
Property is nice and affordable in USA………….shame it is because their country is in the toilet.
GOM how many have you bought this year? (if you don't mind me asking?)
Had a quick look, I was directed to their website rather than this post. They seem to deliver only new builds in newly developed areas so they must have an agreement with developers. I don't think a rent guarantee automatically means it is a good location and I would read the fine print as to what exactly they pay when the property is empty. They also target first home buyers which means as an investor buying into an area you are competing with buyers buying on emotion rather than facts and figures.
Better off doing your own homework or at worst using a buyers agent.
BTW I would never ever use a conveyancer or solicitor recommended to me by a vendor.
Have to say, I do not have ticket numbers!? I think there is to be another email. If you guys haven't heard anything I would ring the PI.com office rather than emailing. It is getting pretty close. If I get any more emails I'll post on here that way you guys will know if you are not getting them. Seeya in a couple days.
You gotta feel sorry for Henry though. Bring us tax reforms, do all this work, all the hype. Umm, ooo, actually you know what? We are going to shelve all your hard work because we don't like to make a fuss.
Have you been getting the emails with the info in them? There was one with instructions on what to bring and where you could park etc. It said to bring note pad pen etc. I think the recording part is for cameras, video and sound recording. he is what was in the email.
Have to say I lived in West Footscray (yeah I have lived in some real winners ;P) and it is a hole with nothing there but every type of industry. It is pleasant to walk around the wattyl refinery of an evening and to know that just round the corner is the oil refinery and the Pampas factory.
But………………………………..proximity to the city and jobs will keep demand there. Eventually industry will move further out. I lived there a couple years ago and ran screaming for the other side of town. I worked in Sunshine at the time and wouldn't hesitate to buy there as it has a bit more going on and a bit less fumes. Just my opinion.