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    Go onto http://www.realestate.com.au and put the price range as $0 to $150,000 and you will find out that it is really hard to find a property in this price range.

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    Companies do not get a 50% discount on capital gains tax after 12 months of ownership

    from ATO web site
    Generally, the discount method does not apply to companies, although it can apply in relation to a limited number of capital gains made by life insurance companies.
    from
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/36552.htm&pc=001/002/026/017/002&mnu=1051&mfp=001/002&st=&cy=1

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    it is not the mortgage but rather the interest charged. The net rental income or net loss is placed in your tax return.
    So net loss = rental income – (interest charged + council rates paid + water rates + insurance paid + repairs + property manager fees+ borrowing costs over five years + depreciation)
    Then if it is a net loss
    your tax return is calculated as
    Taxable income = normal  earned before tax  income  –  net property loss
    if net property loss if a profit it will be added and you pay tax
    Keeping in mind that you paid tax as you earned income from a wage based on normal earned income before tax
    Your taxable income is reduced
    so you get the loss back via saving the tax it would have been.
    For example say your wage was $85,002 and your marginal tax rate was 40% then any thing over $75001 has 40% tax
    so if the net loss was $10,000 you would lower the taxable income from $85002 to 75002 and would get back $10,000 * 40/100 = $4000 for the tax already paid when you earned the $85002 during the year in wage

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/Content/00113233.htm

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    Also if you pay interest only you may be trying to increase your cash flow for some other investment or other reason.
    If you are paying off the loan the repayment is higher where as on a interest only loan will be a bit lower in repayment.

    From a taxation view point – making repayments of principal reduces the interest charge and on an income producing asset this will increase the assessable taxable income as the interest charged slowly goes down over time.
    However with the new tax marginal rates the tax deduction available on negative income is a lot less than it use to be.
    So you may pay for example say $10,000 in expenses but claim say 30% on your marginal tax rate then you get  $3000 back but spend $10,000. This is really a $7000 loss rather than a real tax windfall .

    I tend to like the idea of reducing the principal amount as it allows you to grow equity over time which you can borrow against later on. You may pay tax on the income but the point is it is income rather than a loss.

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    Just an idea – maybe a valuer can help you see http://www.nationalpropertyvaluers.com.au/services.asp for an example.
    Some valuers have really good data bases that have the records of what a house in your area sold for. I am not sure if a valuer has past sales prices but it wouldn't hurt to ask them if they can help you.

    Check your Rates notices from that time as the property  value is listed also.

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    It really depends on how much work is required.
    An auction would involve a lot more work than a private sale.
    You could ring up a buyers agent and ask them what their services cost.

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    Neil,
    I think another interesting aspect you could present at some time in the future is

    How do you get finance when you have a low income and a lack of income from employment.

    This has been my hardest brick wall to face . I have good equity but a low income and this limits the loan amount.

    P.S I attended the last meeting in June and found your presentation useful and informative.

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    http://www.businessmall.com.au/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.shop?idCategory=2
    http://www.businessmall.com.au/store/viewItem.shop?idProduct=40
    (Be aware tax laws change every 6 months)
    books are a cheaper way of learning the business mall has heaps of books of this gender

    http://www.financeinstitute.com.au/mortgageconsultant.html (I have done this course)

    if you have three years to waste
    http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=M300&stutype=local&keywords=m300
    Major in Finance and Accounting (I have done this degree course)
    or
    http://www.hrblock.com.au/cgi-bin/articles/custom.pl/nodeid:66/pages/Tax_Training_Schools.html
    to pick up on current tax rules (I have done this course)

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    You may have to check with your accountant on what is a reasonable accommodation expense. For example if the whole family went and the house has only one owner then the ATO would probably question the accommodation for the other 3 people. Also the time you spent in the accommodation has to be reasonable as deemed by the ATO otherwise they will see it as a holiday trip.

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    Unexpected repairs/ maintenance, emergency repairs that need immediate action like burst plumbing and wear and tear over time.

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    Also as your LVR decreases over time you can borrow more funds if needed.

    I have thought about this previously and I will be aiming myself to have any future property loan I take out to be paid down as quickly as possible to a point where it doesn't cost me money to own the investment. (cash flow neutral)

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    From the ATO Web Site

    Avoid making common mistakes
    incorrectly claiming the full cost of an inspection visit when combined with a private purpose, like a holiday. In this case deduction claims can only be made for the portion of travel directly related to the property inspection.
    http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.asp?doc=/Content/00146333.htm

    Generally you can’t claim rental deductions for private or capital expenses, such as:

    • the cost of buying or selling your rental property, like the cost to purchase the property, conveyancing costs and advertising expenses You will need to apportion your expenses if any of the following apply to you:
    • your property is available for rent for only part of the year.

    http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.asp?doc=/Content/86203.htm

    Full guide downloadable
    http://www.ato.gov.au/content/downloads/NAT1729_07.pdf

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Steps to achieving property investment.

    (1) Pay off all debt that is on assets that do not increase in value over time.(credit cards, personal loans)
    (2) Do not use credit cards
    (2A) Cars be careful of buying depreciating vehicles as a $32,000 car becomes a $2000 car over time.
           What could you do with $30,000 that would be lost due to this hidden depreciation cost of cars.
    (3) Decide if you want to spend money on items that go down in value or if you want to invest in assets that increase in value.
    As my wife says you can only spend the money once.
    (4) Get money taken out of your account and have it placed in a savings account. This provides you with a savings system.
    If the money is taken out at the same time as you get paid you will be forced to budget with whatever is left in the normal bank account.
    (5) purchase a book called making money made simple by noel whittaker

    The current market makes it difficult to find any positively geared property

    One thing I have discovered is properties that require a major renovation to fix are usually not advertised in property web sites or in newspapers.
    The first step is to be able to have a good financial record so that you can enquire from a bank as to how much you can borrow ,  so that you have a good idea how much you can borrow before you walk into a real estate office.

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    If you charge $27,040 more for the property than it cost to build a developer can guarantee $520 a week for 12 months.
    How long is the guarantee for and what does the rent go down to at the end of this time period ?
    $27300 for 6%

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    If the settlement doesn't finally occur the vendor could get a free renovation from Michael.

    You need to talk with your lawyer about a clause that covers the cost of your completed or part completed renovations being re-embursed from the vendor should the settlement not occur.
    Or think about holding off the renovations until the settlement day occurs.

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    See http://www.ato.gov.au/content/downloads/NAT4151_07.pdf    page 31 for the records you require
    very close to the bottom of the page it states needing the valuation of the house and that the change to income production is a CGT event similair to acquiring a property and this is why a valuation is required.

    $275,000 at 10% interest is $27,500 minus rent income $350 per week being $18,200 p/a plus approx guess of $2,000 p/a for council rates, insurance, water rates. = $11,300.      Factoring in 2 x 0.25% interest rate hikes before this year is up .

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    Employ a valuer to give you a valuation on your primary residence so you have a record of the current market value of your property before you rent it out. Make sure you do not claim interest for the portion of the financial year your house was PPOR. Make sure the loan claimed is directly linked to the property rented out.

    Depends on owners marginal tax rate
    By renting out the PPOR house you will have expenses of  approximately $11,000 and then you need to consider your top marginal tax rate. If you have $11,000 in a tax rate of say for example 30% then you save $3400 in tax and spend $11,000 plus the rent for another house? as opposed to $27,000 in non deductible interest costs for PPOR.

    Have you thought of moving into one of the two $150,000 loan houses  that you can't get a tax rebate on due to be positively geared while interest rates are up and thus saving yourself from paying out rent and being able to transfer the PPOR CGT exemption to the lower loan house and also getting this house  re-valued before you do this so you can work out CGT tax in the future if  you later sell it or re-rent it out.

    I can't give you specific financial advise but rather offer some other possibilities you may not have thought of.
     

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    I purchased a property with a 30 day settlement .
    Make sure you get Land Lords insurance as this held up my 30 day settlement and I only got the certificate of insurance 1 day before settlement and experienced some stress from this as the bank won't release the funds until this occurs.
    My trouble started with my normal insurance company stating the house had to be occupied to get insurance. So I eventually changed my insurance company and use CGU now.

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    Another brilliant method I just thought up is to contact Buyer advocates in Australia and tell them about your property as they will match buyers with what you are selling.

    See for an example
    http://www.secretagent.com.au/index.php/Services/Sellers-Service.html

    http://www.queenslandbuyersadvantage.com.au/

    http://www.australianhousehunters.com.au/buyers_agents_qld.htm

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    Have you tried selling to the tenant.
    Have you thought of rather than giving a property away provide vendor finance for the property. I saw recently an ad where the seller was asking for 10% deposit and was asking $100 a week in rent for 12 months with settlement in 12 months. The house is just round the corner from where I live that is why I noticed the advert.

    This web site may help you out with advertising
    http://www.noagentproperty.com.au/
    Total cost $240 AUD

    or
    http://www.owner.com.au/
    cost is free

    If you want some more places to advertise try this method
    type in http://www.google.com.au
    click on pages in australia
    type in the search box the following search
    free property advertising

    there are 212,000 web site results
    P.S
    I think you may be required to sell the property at a near market price for capital gains tax reasons.

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