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How will you pay the stamp duty when you buy this property ?
usually 80% lvr for equity loan so 400k * 80% = 320 k so you could borrow zero as you don't have enough equity.Find out if chimney is staying there. Are there plans by a developer in at the council to build a similar apartment block on this site across the road. The chimney may have a historic order on it and will never be knocked down.
Maybe the developer you are buying from is waiting for all the apartments to sell to have enough money to do the same across the road.How long has wife worked for your company as this will affect this idea but it worked for my father a couple of years ago when he went for a loan.
Do not forget the CPI at say 3% so when you get your pitiful interest payment then subtract the Tax payable and CPI loss and your savings are going backwards.
I stopped saving money in the early 90's due to having to pay tax on interest earned on saved already earned taxed money.If you want this type of hands off type of property management you might be better off getting a DHA house.
check out
http://www.invest.dha.gov.auIf you had half the year neg geared and the other half positively geared you work on net income or loss for the whole financial year.
So you may end up breaking even.
Really depends on your tax rate. but remember for example on a 30% tax rate you actually lose 70% to get back 30% for negative gearing.
for a $100 lose a week you get $30 dollars backfor a positive gearing you earn 100% and lose 30%
For $100 earned you pay $30 in tax but earn $70.They are known as quantity surveyors
Buy off the plan before JUNE 30th 2009 and move into it for 6 months after the house construction is complete.
http://www.treasury.tas.gov.au/domino/dtf/dtf.nsf/v-fhog/7F20E246704802C9CA257145000C0258
See last line on extra boost in FHOG eligibility
Save as much money till that point in time that you enter into a construction contract for a deposit.The more interest you show in the property the more the real estate agent will try it on.
You must be prepared to pass on this property and use your time to look for a better deal. If you can get over your anger and move on to looking at the next deal that will come up.
You can then tell this agent you have made a mistake and have now changed your mind and will look else where to buy and the offer is withdrawn .
You might find the agent will accept this and let you slip through their fingers but you never know they might realize they are losing a sale and might make you a better offer.
You could make an offer of $260,000 with a two week sunset clause that the offer is only open for two weeks and after the two weeks move on.I increased an offer once by $5000 to allow the vendor to pay off their mortgage but they had got stuck in a housing commission loan repayment scheme where 15% of their wage was used to pay off the loan. After 10 plus years the vendor ended up with a higher loan amount and also they were on a higher fixed interest rate.
If you can always ask the agent what the reason for selling is. You can be lucky and get an honest answer and then be able to structure an offer around what helps the vendor.
As an example say the vendor was an investor and wanted to sell to have money for a holiday then a quick 30 day settlement would suit them more than getting the most money from the sale.
Darwin , Welcome to the forum.
check out http://www.adelaidepropertyfinders.com.au – haven't used them myself but they advertised in the december 2008 API magazine.
Visit http://www.ato.gov.au as I think Minors are taxed at 48.5% when the income reaches a certain threshold to stop people transfering money into their kids names. Check out the two links below
http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/20046.htm
http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/20046.htm&page=5&H5check out http://www.realestate.com.au or http://www.domain.com.au
http://www.businessmall.com.au/property-investing/property-taxation – for books on how tax works in OZ
http://www.businessmall.com.au/gat-2.htmlhope this is enlightening for you as you will need to learn a different tax system here in oz.
You may be able to use a longer settlement as a bargaining point with the seller. As it gives the seller more time to organise somewhere else to live. They might bring down the price for the opportunity of saving interest from bridging finance.
You do not usually pay interest on the loan until settlement occurs and you get capital growth in the mean time.
It gives you some breathing space to organize finance The bank will love the extra time.I think the problem occurs when you grow a massive property portfolio. Don't forget that Steve's book is 200 plus properties.
So for an example you have 200 properties cross secured and property 201,202 and 203 go belly up you risk losing property from the 200 plus properties. Also when you own 200 plus properties they are not going to be owned in your name but rather in a trust and company name as owner of trust. Another problem is you reach a total loan value of 1 million and the banks make it hard to borrow from them .
I am thinking of using cross securing because of low cash flow making it hard to get a loan by itself where as a cross will allow me to borrow most of the loan I need from my line of credit and a small amount from a cross security loan.but I do not own 200 plus properties. Also it is hard to swap the structure of property purchased prior due to capital gains tax and stamp duty having to be paid if you transfer from individual ownership to a trust ownership.
Does property have built in robes, air conditioning, ducted heating, modern kitchen , good bathroom, recently painted
What you have to do is compare what other properties are renting at. And what features they have as mentioned in the first line of this comment. I looked on www,realestate.com.au
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=s&cu=fn-rea&s=vic&ss=&ag=&t=ren&snf=rbs&chk=0&lead=&ty=&searchFormSource=advanced+search&tb=jan+juc&u=JAN+JUC&is=1&pm=&px=&pme=any&pxe=any&minbed=&maxbed=&cat=&p=10&o=def
There are 5 properties on it.
So if you have a tenant already in the place you cannot jack the rent up from $105 a week to say $300 a week. The tenant can complain to the tenants tribunal that you are raising the rent by an unreasonable level. Regular reasonable rental increases every 6 to 12 months conditions the tenant to rental increases and your dad can slowly catch up with the current rental market rent levels. For example a $10 a week increase is like a 10% rent increase to the tenant
Where as a $105 to $300 a week increase is approximately a 200% rent increase to the tenant which may be seen as unfair by the tenant..
I was in the same predictament but my previous tenant broke the lease for personal reasons and I was able to increase my rent to market value minus $20 ($20 a week reduction due to not having ducted heating, garage, ect) for the next tenant.
about 8 years ago I made the mistake with one of my tenants in not increasing the rent regularly over 8 years and the rent fell behind so I increased the rent from$130 a week to $135 a week and the tenant abandoned the property. $5 a week was about a 5% increase and it caused the tenant to leave. The market rent was $160 a week when I increased the rent by $5 a week.If your dad has not increases the rent for a number of years for this tenant you might find the tenant moves when faced with a reasonable 10% rental increase as they are not used to having rental increases and realize the good low rent is a thing of the past and they will be facing rental increases from now on.
Unless the current tenant moves to another house and then you can increase the rent to the market value in one hit.
Formula
$105 a week = 105 * 52 = 5460 per annum
yield = 5460/450000 * 100 = 1.2%$300 a week = $15600
Yield is 15600/450000 = 3.4%Other areas in Victoria have rental yields are between 4.0% to 6%
Worked out by going on http://www.realestate.com.au and looking at what is being sold that has a current tenant renting at $x per week. Unfortunately None at Jan Juc selling with tenants. So at a lower 4% yield value.450,000 * 4.0/100 = 18000 per annum.
rent = 20250/52 = $346 a weekCheck local real estate agents that rent properties. Might be worth having them take over the management of the rental property as they can assess the achievable rent.
neighbouring torquay
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&id=104615838&f=60&p=10&t=res&ty=&fmt=&header=&cc=&c=37047593&s=vic&snf=rbs&tm=1227648990
rent $400 a week value is $490,000 – yield is 4.2% yieldread a book called Unlimited Cashflow by Craig Turnbull -ISBN 0-9775209-1-9
A maximum geared property has less of your cash in it and more borrowed money in it. So you could have another property that is non tax deductible having less borrowings against it while having the deductible property having more borrowings and less deposit through cross co laterilising it.
Alternatively you may have one property that is positively geared and another property that is negatively geared. The two balance out so that you are offsetting positive passive income against a rental loss property so nett property income = zero.
positively geared property could have a larger deposit and smaller loan thus making it positively geared assuming that it is difficult to get positively geared property without a large deposit in the current property market.
c2 "Was basically just wondering what people think of both and which one is the lesser of two evils."
Negative gearing!
It really depends on if you can afford to cover the short fall if negatively geared.
How many properties can you afford to cover with your wage.
You are betting on capital growth after capital gains tax is taken out to outstrip the costs of holding the property.
If interest rates go up your costs go up.Positive gearing.
If you are like me with no wage – cash flow is more important.
You own less property but it doesn't cost you to keep properties.
Pay less land tax as you own less properties
If you keep paying down properties and buying more eventually you have cash flow that can be used to cover a negatively geared property. So you can eventually have a mix of both methods.I use to be negatively geared but am now positively geared.
Usually 10% deposit from you when the hammer falls and the Auctioneer says sold. Balance within 30 ,60 or 90 days.
Get your finance pre-approved so you know what you can borrow up to and also what is your absolute maximum you can bid at the auction without getting into trouble due to finance.
Ask the real estate agent for a copy of the contract and ask what the terms of the settlement are so you can get your solicitor to check over the contract before the auction occurs and get the finance organised.You might want to get a building and pest inspection prior to the auction occurring.
Check if you can use a deposit bond with the real estate agent.
If you do not know what a deposit bond is do a search on google.By law the terms of settlement as mentioned at the start of the auction but this is not helpful if you need to know earlier than this and in all the excitement of the Auction you may not remember the blurb that is stated by the Auctioneer.
As Elka stated "Does your question relate to a specific situation ?"
Possible situations .
Situation one:
You have a property with heaps of equity but you do not have any cash for a deposit for the next property purchase.
Solution one.:
Borrow money from house one as line of credit and avoid cross colaterisation.
Pros – You now have money for deposit. on second house. The First house doesn't become repossessed if you can't pay loan on
house two.
Cons. You have borrowed the deposit so you have to pay interest on the first line of credit loan as well as the new investment
loan. So you are probably negatively geared anyway.
Solution Two.
Use property one as security as well as property two.Pros- Avoid Loan Mortgage Insurance. If you get behind in repayments you have breathing space due to lower Loan value ratio.
May make it easier to borrow from bank.
Cons. Will probably be negative geared. If you default you could lose both houses.
Situation two:
You have heaps of cash lying about for a deposit for the next property purchase.
Solution one.:
Use cash as a deposit for investment property and lower LVR thus making property positively geared..
Pros – You earn an passive income.Property doesn't cost you money to hold.
Cons. You have to pay income tax on positive property income . You are not using maximum gearing.
Solution Two.
Use cash to pay down property one which is probably a main residence and interest payments are not tax deductible.
Borrow using both this property and investment property as security for loan two.Pros- You main residence or PPOR has less non tax deductible interest payments. Avoid Loan Mortgage Insurance. If you get behind in repayments you have breathing space due to lower Loan value ratio. May make it easier to borrow from bank. Maximum leverage.
Cons. Will probably be negative geared and can claim a tax deduction to help pay off loan. If you default you could lose both houses.get it from the source
http://www.ato.gov.au/content/downloads/IND00133187n17290608.pdf
page 15http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.asp?doc=/Content/44609.htm
working out effective life of assethttp://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/Content/25229.htm
<$300 immediate writeoffhttp://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/Content/00133187.htm&page=15#P650_63579
Building write off 2.5%http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/Content/23744.htm
low value poolsYes.
What might be a consideration is if the mining company has future plans to mine the land under the building.
You need to know the term of the lease. They are 99 years to 999 years and can be less due to remaining time left.
I know the power companies that mine coal in Victoria lease the surrounding land to farmer so they can mine the coal when the need arises in the future.I am learning how to install and use Linux as I too am not happy with VISTA either. Linux ubuntu distribution comes with Firefox