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    I got a quote in Victoria recently
    I had a quote of $700 for 9.1 mtrs for a removal of old fence and install of new fence. Being treated Pine height 6'4"
    neighbour paid half.

    Get three quotes and then you will know what it might cost.

    http://www.bluewavegroup.com.au/fencing_quote.php

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    Jlee wrote:
    I own a biggish house which is now fully paid up. I intend to put it up for rent and rent a smaller place to live.

    Will I be able to claim the rental I pay for the smaller house as tax deductions from the income I get for renting my own house? Is anyone able to advise on this?

    You can't claim the cost of renting another house you live in off the original rental home income.

    Is it in your interest to get a tax deduction. What is your marginal tax rate. Is it 30% if it is you could pay 30% tax on the first property income and use the 70% left over to help pay off another home loan for the next house you live in.

    Or live in the bigger house and rent out the new smaller investment house loan and pay it off with the rent you are not paying or loan repayments you are not paying on the first house you have paid off..
    (When you have a house paid off you can get an equity loan against it to cover the deposit for the second investment house. )
    (or use first house and second house combined as security – more risky as you can lose both houses if you get behind)

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    Beware going heavily into negative geared property because if you are planning on receiving family payments a negative property loss  magically is deemed as income for calculating your family payments or parenting payments.

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    Old carpet covered floors keep on floor while painting then replace after painting floor.

    If plumbing needed it has to be done before you put the tiles , wall coverings , plaster board , ect  on to walls as access is required by the plumber and damage can be done to walls. Check with plumber and electrician as to what they need to do to the walls before doing work on the walls.

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    What I have noticed is the web sites usually have the most marketable properties on it.
    So if you want the deal type properties you may have to walk into a real estate office and ask them what properties have they got on their listings.
    Median suburb prices can be found in API Magazine at the back

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    Give hbbehrendorffa brake as yunger peepal spel stuff a lot wurse them im. Its gr8 4 ow society that yung peepals can spell stuff so gr8 . OMG if u think he has problems spelling look at watt the yung under 24 year olds type like .LOL

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    Jaffasoft wrote:
    So if i'm talking to a bloke and we have a beer and draw on the back of an envelope and it's signed it's a done deal.

    Depends also on how many beers as if the bloke is intoxicated the contract is not enforcable due to lack of capacity to make a decision.

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    Usually one suburb goes ballistic and when it becomes too expensive to buy into people then buy in the neighboring cheaper suburb.

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    l_b29265 wrote:
    Thankyou Scott. I see what you mean, but I was thinking that I may be able to claim the losses each year (in  my usual income tax return which was prepared for my day job) somehow? Would it have reduced my taxable income if I made a loss of 10K on the vacant land each year? Thats more the point of what I was hoping to claim. I'm not sure if the system works that way as you said, when I made no income fromt he actual property itself?

    No you can't do this . You have to have a direct nexus(connection) with the property that produces income.
    What you are thinking of is when the expenses are greater than the property's rental income and you make a net property income loss that can be offset against other income such as a wage from a job each tax year.

    What also is a rule is you cannot double dip
    So if you had been claiming expenses against rental property income you cannot then try and claim these expenses against the cost base for capital gain purposes.
    However you have not claimed against income and can add the holding costs onto the property to reduce you capital gain.

    see the third element of cost base at this web site
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/36557.htm&page=2&H2
    and also the point of

    You do not include costs if you: (direct quote from ATO)

    see end of second element part for double dipping

    see this example as it is similar to your situation.
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/36902.htm&pc=001/002/026/017/004&mnu=&mfp=&st=&cy=1

    if you make a capital loss you can only claim this against other capital gains now or later on .
    (not sure on how long you can carry the loss to future tax return years)

    Check if you can claim a capital loss while adding 8 years of holding costs to the third element of the cost base with your accountant

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    Have you taken into account the first home owners grant that you might be entitled to up until September 2009.
    Go a google search on FHOG to see government web site on it.
    Banks lend to people with jobs and depending on how much you earn they will lend to a level they feel you can service.
    This is known as servicability and then they will also lend to a certain LVR level depending on which is the lowest figure.

    If you can get a loan at 95% mortgage insurance may be required by the bank which means you have to pay the premium.
    Not sure on banks that lend to 95% as a lot of them are spooked by the financial crisis and have lowered LVR levels.

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    You are partially correct but there are other factors used to determine if this is your main residence see ato web site for some of these other factors.
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/36883.htm

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    harrisonjames wrote:
     
    With new ring road, is about 30-35 mins to Melb, 15 mins to Werribee, 30 mins to Geelong.

    The time taken to drive is going to increase in the future as more of these developments are created thus putting more traffic on the roads to melbourne in peak hours.

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    if it is an auction I reckon $720 k as that seems to be what is happening in Melbourne auctions

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    You might need to complain to the mortgage broker if you used one and if you do not get a satisfactory resolution then check out this web site http://www.creditombudsman.com.au/

    or if you did not use a broker then
    I think you should complain in writing to the CBA bank
    see
    http://www.commbank.com.au/contact-us/compliments-complaints/default.aspx
     as their change in policy after giving you financial advice on gaining a loan approval has caused you to be in a situation where you may suffer a future financial loss caused directly by CBA changing their lending policies.
    Then when you do not get a satisfactory resolution then check out this web site
    http://www.fos.org.au/centric/home_page/resolving_disputes/how_to_lodge_a_dispute/how_to_lodge_a_dispute_banking_finance.jsp#Getting_started

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    karenday wrote:
    i thought all of the interest paid was tax deductable?  not just the loss between rental income and interest?

    rental return for the two properties is $29,510 a year combined.  interest payments are $16,250 combined.

    so halve the income:
    my income is $14,755 (rent return is my only income)

    Your net property proceeds is equal to
    rental income is $14755 – (half interest costs) – (1/2 council rates) -(1/2 water rates)-(1/2 insurance costs) -(1/2 depreciation costs)-(1/2 repair costs)

    karenday wrote:
    troy's income is $14,755 (rent return) and $75,000 (normal job)

    Troy's net property proceeds is equal to
    rental income is $14755 – (half interest costs) – (1/2 council rates) -(1/2 water rates)-(1/2 insurance costs) -(1/2 depreciation costs)-(1/2 repair costs)

    karenday wrote:
    so cos the interest payments were less than the rental return, does that mean we have no tax deduction from those payments?  gosh that sucks – i thought we would be getting a decent amount back at tax time.  at least i am finding out now instead of when i get the info back from the accountant.

    Not necessarily as you have to factor in all expenses incurred in earning rental income including depreciation which has two forms of depreciation – fixtures can be claimed and depending on the age of the property building costs could be claimed and then fixtures can be also claimed.

    However you should not purchase an investment property based on a tax deduction.
    As an extreme example say you did have a net loss of $8000 a year after calculating rental income – expenses
    Extreme hypothetical example of $8000 negative gearing scenario which is not what you have got.

    Troy earns less than 80,000 so the marginal tax rate is .30c so say you had $8000 you could claim as an example
    So troy paid $8000 in interest to get back $2400 as a tax return. out of pocket by $5600
    and for your case
    You paid as an example say $8000
    You earn nothing as in this example net property  income is minus $8000
    Tax on no previous income is zero
    So you pay $8000 to get back Zero.

    Now you visit the family office to get a Family payment as part of this example

    Family office and centrelink add the 8000 loss back onto your incomes to work out deemed income for payment calculations.
    Now remember that troy has actually lost $5600 dollars but centrelink and family office say no you actually earned the full gross income by adding the loss back to troys taxable assessable income.
    You now have a deemed income of $8000 according to centrelink and family office even though you are actually $8000 out of pocket as you couldn't claim back money.
    Point to remember if you are a parent as well !

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    A lot of the owners can have a denial about having to move in to a full blown nursing home. So they move out of their house and into a smaller unit. As time goes by they then realise that they cannot look after themselves and then have to sell their unit to afford to move into the nursing home.

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    The bank will most likely lend to 80% LVR on your existing investment properties. (and you need to be able to service the new total debt amount)
    Also if you go for another loan the new lender will want to know your existing debt and will factor this with your income so see if you are able to service the new loan.

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    You will not be able to borrow large sums of money without a steady larger income stream.
    You will also need a deposit. Maybe you could save your income to put towards a deposit at a future time when you have a higher paying job.

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