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I should also clarify that the 1% extra was charged if I wanted a separate offset account .
If the loan account is an offset account there is no extra charges.Originally posted by calvin@thirty4:Or Simon, … is this correct? If so, how then is the off-set account such a benefit? That’s an extra $83.33 per month for every 100K. And they make a big thing out of an extra $25 month if the interest goes up by .25%.
Cheers
C@34
This is all confusing , has anyone been able to negotiate the interest rate down or is this not done ????
Originally posted by qwerty:Hi Domo,
Be careful. Say you pay it into your IP loan and want to draw on that $100k for a new car. There goes your tax deductibility.
If you put that money in an offset account against your IP loan you could draw out the money for a new car and that would be tax deductible.qwerty
My bank charges 1% above the standard interest rate for an offset account.
Do you think that the 1% is a fair trade off for the flexibility it gives you ???It seems that one of the most critical components of an IP the finance structure which may be different for each person.
I am finding it hard to get some good info on finance structure as banks will try to sell you their product & are not financial adviser’s , on the other hand some Financial adviser’s want to sell you products as well !!!!!It seems that the best thing to do is to create a plan & stick to it as best as you can.
I have been advised by my accountant to use a trust.
The property that I live in has a mortgage , the interest is not tax deductible.
I have an IP with no mortgage.
What I have been advised to do is create a Trust ( Which type I don’t know yet )
Sell my ip to the trust ( borrow all the money ) My accountant wants to change my IP from +ve geared to -ve geared
Use the money to pay my mortgage.Which leaves me with a negative geared IP with all the interest tax deductible.
Does this sound like a good plan ???
Originally posted by Monopoly:Take a look for yourself, and you be the judge Domo.
http://www.somersoft.com/forums/index.php?Cheers,
Jo
Jo
I had a bit of a look last night & it looks like another great forum.Thanks [thumbsupanim]
Originally posted by Monopoly:Stay with us, both here, and at Somersoft, and you will (like me) find there is a lot of “giving and taking” that goes on to benefit ALL who willingly share of their knowledge/experiences!!! .
Jo
I have seen Somersoft mentioned in the forum , can you give me some more info please.
[biggrin]Originally posted by Derek:
Originally posted by Domo:I don’t necessarily agree with this for all negatively geared investors Dom – those that are only focussed on this aspect of their investments will, in the main, make poor decisions as their reason for investing is wrong.
Derek
I have read a number of books on property investing & they either support -ve gearing or they trash it so things can get confusing.
Do you know of any resource available that supports Offset gearing as this seems to be a great strategy.Originally posted by Monopoly:Do your homework, research the facts, then we’ll talk!!!
Monopoly
I do speak partially out of ignorance as i am trying to work things out ….
The great thing about this forum is that there are people like yourself who are willing to put an opinion forward & help guide some of us.
My accountant is suggesting to make my positive geared IP into a negative geared IP so that I can save some tax.
Once I have all the details I can compare the difference & make a decision.
I will let you know how it go.Thanks
[specool]landburn
I am in the highest tax bracket & have an IP which I am wanting to rent this IP will be positively geared which means approx half the profits go to the tax man.
Your opinion is that it is better to make $100 profit than to minimise my tax as the $100 is passive income.
It seems to me that positive cash flow is associated with a positive attitude eg I will make $100 profit.
While negative gearing is associated with a negative attitude eg I don’t want to pay more tax.
It takes allot to change ones mind-set especially when the accountants are advising you to make a loss.The rules say if you earn x amount you will pay x amount in tax , you can just accept it & pay the tax or you can legally work around these rules to try to minimise your tax but is the price for this your financial freedom as it would seem that reducing tax ties you to your job ????
It’s unfortunate but I won’t be retiring in the next couple of years so I will be looking to invest for capital growth in the next property cycle as well as +ve cashflow to replace my salary.
I would also like to reduce my tax obligation.It seems there are 3 things that I need to look at :
1: How much longer to I want to work in a job for.( Another 10 years is enough for me )
2: Invest in a negative geared IP’s to Reduce Tax , these IP’s should be selected for their potential for capital growth.
3: Invest in positive cashflow IP’s to replace my wage.
I have one question regarding negative gearing , Since I will be working for the next 10 years is it best to keep purchasing negative geared properties until my tax bill is down to zero then start to look for positive cash flow IP’s ?
Thanks for the reply’s , I have learnt a new work “Offset Gearing” .
I haven’t read anything about Offset Gearing , the books that I have read are pro negative gearing or pro positive cash flow.
It’s great to get feedback from people with experience & are willing to help.
I will do some more research !!!!!My accountant seems to have a strategy that will save me some tax by restructuring my IP ( selling IP to a trust ) , this will also position me to be able to purchase another IP with similar benefits.
It all sounds good but I wounded how it will work in practice ???[worried]
MortgageHunter
If IP no 1 has no debt & the equity is used for a deposit isn’t it the same as using cash for the deposit ??[blink]I finally arranged for a depreciation schedule .
The people I spoke to were very helpful.
Some data needs to be collected before an appointment can be made , this is done via the Depreciator web site.
I found all questions were clearly written & could be easily answered.
On the same day that all the info was supplied I received a phone call which was to progress my job.So far I have found the Depreciator to be professionally run organisation.
Thanks Scott [thumbsupanim]
I received a call from consumer affairs regarding the enquiry I made.
Consumer affairs have a record of all complaints this includes successful prosecution & complaints which were not substantiated. This database is not available to the public.
What is available to the public are media releases & documents of successful prosecutions.You can find this information by going to
http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/
Enter prosecution or Undertakings into the search field.You here lots of stories about dodgy deals , spending some time researching may save heart ache later.[happy3]
I have lodged an enquiry to try & find out if there is a resource available to check if complaints have been lodged against Estate Agents in victoria.
As I find information I will post it.[thumbsupanim]http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/cbav/fairsite.nsf/pages/of_enquiries
I have lodged an enquiry to try & find out if there is a resource available to check if complaints have been lodged against Estate Agents in victoria.
As I find information I will post it.[thumbsupanim]http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/cbav/fairsite.nsf/pages/of_enquiries
I have found a VICGOV site which has quite a bit of information.
It has a section titled ( Being a Landlord )
which covers what forms need to be completed plus Landlord obligation.
I think it’s worth having a look.I have been looking for more info & found a vicgov site which sells info as well which sounds interesting.
Has anyone used info from the site below ?http://www.land.vic.gov.au/land/lcnlc2.nsf/Home+Page/Land+Channel~Home+Page?open
Originally posted by YC:Hi elika7264,
I’ve been using this site as a reference for information in suburbs. It’s not cheap when goes down to street level info but it looks to be really specific and detailed – sorry can’t give you more info on that since I’d been only using the free one. Let me know if it’s good when you do purchase any report from them. Or can anyone here provide any info on this?
http://www.homepriceguide.com.au/
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
YCYC
I had a quick look & found that homepriceguide gets it’s data from a number of sources as stated below not just ABS…9. Where do we get our data?
The Home Price Guides include data obtained from a variety of sources – real estate agents, state governments, real estate advertisements (print and electronic) and our own auction reporters. Private treaty sales come from the state-based Valuers-General or equivalent in each state and the auction results are obtained directly from the auctioning agent by our own researchers and monitors.I am still interested in finding some free data as you would think that some of the data we are searching for is available to the public.
So the search continues !!!!![suave3]Regarding Pets during the screening of tenants can you ask what type of pet a tenant has ??
As this may help match the tenant to the property eg: if the property has a small court yard & the Tenant has a big dog it would seem that the tenant does not fit the property !!!!!
Does anyone have any thoughts on this ????