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    First thing to do is to unhinge the ownership of the property you own with your friend.

    The mixed ownership means you both will need the permission of the other before you can borrow any more money when this property is used for security for a loan.

    Once this has been done, and you have sufficient deposit either in cash or equity or a combination of both then explore a strategy along the lines you are thinking.

    Having worked in mining towns in the past I have seen so many people on high wages blowing their opportunity by buying all the latest and greatest widgets and gadgets. The end result is these people are hamstrung by their wage and the need for teh latest and greatest gadget.

    At the same time I have seen people come and go who have used the opportunity to set themselves up for later life with clever investing.

    Your post seems to place you in the second group.

    Now go and unhinge that property and then make your move.

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    Not an accountant so disclaimer applies.

    Tools would only be deductible if they were considered oart of your business. If your property investment qualified as a business then you may be able to claim tools. If you are like most people and your property investment is sufficient to be classified as a business then the answer would be no.

    Even if you qualifed as a 'property business' there would have to be any apportioning of tool use for private purposes.

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    The process of receiving early tax deductions is in place under section 15.15 of the tax act. If you know your situation and are handy with a calculator pretty easy to do. Have been completing these for 10 yrs.
     
    Necessary form for wage earners http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00188348.htm

    Self employed and income from other sources supplement http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00188344.htm

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    HI Ramayne,

    Ducksters a numbers look pretty close to the mark so I reckon you could 'run' with those.

    As for refinancing and looking at number 2 V paying down overdraft.

    I think you have just had a major fright with cashflow and your first post suggests the property is yet to be rented (it should etc etc) under these circumstances I would try and do the refinance thingy + pay down the overdraft. I expect the O/D is at a higher interest rate than a housing loan so this will also save a few bucks.

    Then, when the dust settles, you have a tenant paying rent and you know exactly what you have then ask the question once again. You will then be dealing a known quantity.

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    Stamp duty is payable to the state government the property is located in.

    Some states also charge stamp duty on the loan.

    Two different duties depending on where you are.

    At tops only one of each to pay.

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    Fully wrote:

    1. At the moment I'm thinking of starting with a cheap unit/apartment (<$200-$250k) with decent rental returns, CG, then hopefully buying a second one in say 6 months time, a third 6 months later and a fourth 6 months after that using the equity in the first properties and the cash I'll earn in that time.

     Ambitious yes but I have a small window with my current job and want to make the most of it.

    2. Considering two 250k property's can get $600 a week and a $500k property maybe $450 this doesn't seem like a great idea to me. I'd imaging CG would be similar for both but obviously many other factors are involved.

    3. Oh my goal is simple to own a decent house outright in Perth in 12 years and just live out my life, I'm not concerned about making millions.

    Hi Matt,

    Some comments in direct response to some of your points.

    1. The issue of 'how long in this job' is absolutely critical.
    I assume you are on the mines somewhere in WA (whereabouts ?) and are currently earning a tidy packet because of this. No point doing all of your planning and spending based on a $140K income if in a few years time you drop down to $65K. All the numbers change and this may have a significant effect on your plans and what you have acquired. If this scenario transpires your plans and reality are poles apart and it probably wont work unless all of your props are paying for themselves.

    The next question is what are you trying to achieve? Is it 'wealth' from cashflow or growth. The answer to this will determine which property and where it is.

    2. CG highly likely to be very different. Your $500K property will be in a much better location and will outperform the 2 X 250K props. Just check the median price records for Perth suburbs to see which are the better performers.

    3. I heard Peter Spann suggest individuals should consider the buy investment properties first and use profits to then buy a home at a later date. Will need a few IPs to do this as median price in Perth in 12 yrs should be above $1m based on previous growth rates. 

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    Suggest you re-read Steve's book. The 11 sec rule was not the 'be all' and 'end all' of property selection.

    I clearly remember 6 years ago people coming on here thinking about buying property in Bogabilla (for goodness sake) only because it met the 11 sec rule. The 11 sec rule is the easy to do part – the harder part is finding a good property first which, then meets the 11 sec rule.

    As Jamie said – good book at a different time and place when 'suitable' 11 sec rule properties, off the shelf, were to be found. Albeit they were further out than I would buy.

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    Building 4 props and not 2 means greater risk for builder. Seems builder is carrying all the risk here – at minimum they would want/demand a higher purchase price to mitigate the risk they carry.

    Builders want full progress payments made during construction (standard practice) so their materials & wages bills are paid on time.

     

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    propertybee wrote:

    My offer to purchase an established residential property has been accepted yesterday and I understand that the cooling off period here in WA is 5 business days from day of acceptance? which in my case starts tomorrow,;  and the property and pest inspection report has to be done within this 5 day period. 
     
    What is a cooling off period? Is this when I can withdraw from purchasing without losing my deposit?

    How can a property inspection and pest inspection report be done within the 5 day period or in less than 5 days?

    Can anybody who had some experience hiring some, or know some good ones, recommend me a
     1.good building inspector and termite/pest inspector? I understand that the building inspector must be a registered builder or structural engineer.
     2. termite pest inspector

    How much is the reasonable cost of a building inspection with report and also of a termit/pest inspection report?

    thanks in advance.

    If the form you have signed is the 810 then you are now 'live' – there is no cooling off period in WA.

    I am not sure who was advising you on your conditions and what you were signing but good luck getting a pest and building inspection done and reported within 5 days. You will need to be on your bike first thing tomorrow.

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    propertybee wrote:
    I understand that the cooling off period here in WA is 5 business days from day of acceptance?

    the property and pest inspection report has to be done within this 5 day period. 

    If the form you have signed is the 810 then you are now 'live' – there is no cooling off period in WA.

    I am not sure who was advising you on your conditions and what you were signing but good luck getting a pest and building inspection done and reported within 5 days. You will need to be on your bike first thing tomorrow.

    You haven't indicated what finance conditions are in place – but it seems when ringing around looking for an inspector you should be making sure you have an efficient solicitor working with you.

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    tigermiger wrote:
    API magazine for March as part of the '20  Hotspots primed to benifit from major infrasturcture projects'. Various comments made by Terry Ryder:

    This is the same guy who listed Merredin as the next hot spot ~12months ago.

    Needs more of a recommendation than an API magazine article.

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    Know the legislation as it applies to your state better than the back of your hand.

    It is highly likely you may need a license if you are being paid for your endeavours.

    Reading your post – it would seems as you have a lot of learning to do. Are you sure this (managing another person's property) is what you really want to do?

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    Geez Jamie – no wonder you are still working.

    You keep knockin' back these offers too good to refuse.

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    Poorly written clauses can cause real issues.

    You need to go back and read, word by word what the 'inspection' clause says as this seems to be your 'out' – for some reason the vendor hasn't accepted the out you are using.  I suspect the clause wording was clumsy.

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    Yep and the new purchase takes you to 87%.

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    Hi Intrigue,

    Yep – LVR on the home is 80%. I have ignored any offset as the bank only look at limits when determining levels of security.

    In my opinion and in general terms 80% is OK.

    If we fast forward and imagine you are able to achieve what you want – buy the $250K property at 95% LVR.

    This will significantly change your overall LVR as you have a new asset worth $250K and debts of ~$267K used to provide purchase price ($250K) + purchase ($12.5K) costs + ~LMI ($5K) @ 2% of borrowings.

    LVR on the second purchase is ~107%

    Now I am not adverse to having a LVR of 107% on a single property as I have done it many times myself. 

    But for me the new overall situation gets a little unsteady as you have little wriggle room to move if your world goes pear shaped.

    Your overall position now reads as follows:

    Total assets = $650K
    Total debst = $569K (As follows $320K on home + $249K on new property – additional $18K comes from LOC against your own home so we don't add that twice)
    Total LVR = 87.5%

    Lots of numbers to explain there – hopefully they are clear enough and can provide some food for thought.

    Derek

     

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    I should also have added – check with your accountant about any CGT issues you may have with the sub-divide and sale option. At the same time check with a broker to see if the sale of one of the blocks will help your serviceability to the extent you want.

    Banks are wary of 'mum and dad developers' at the moment so don't be surprised if you have to jump through a few extra hoops. 

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    I went the other way.

    Plenty of experience with property and then got my sales ticket.

    While it (the ticket) has filled in a couple of blanks I can't say the 'ticket' has added to my expertise as an investor.

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    East Perth & Northbridge are 'unit city' and some lenders/mortgage insurers were (are ?) reluctant to do +80% loans on those postcodes. For me step 5 km out and look at the next ring of suburbs.

    You can do this and still retain ready access to infrastructure and features tenants, investors and home owners want.

    While Perth market hasn't grown significantly in terms of value in recent months/quarters there have been some recent decisions made or undertakings made which tend to indicate Perth will be solid for the medium/long term, If you are chasing 2006 growth – I can't see it. But if you want a set and forget for 10 yrs – do it. 

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    Start small grasshopper – if the blocks have now been sub-divided consider sellign one/both blocks off and use the proceeds as the launching pad for your future.

    I reckon getting something is better than getting nothing. Sure it's not as good as getting the lot but…………….it beast nothing.

    If banks see you as lacking serviceability I would be worred about your ability to accomodate building cost/time blow-outs and slow sales at the end of the project. I have seen too many small developers bite off too much and go belly up.

    Slow and steady will get you there. 

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