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- Kouts wrote:Im in Nsw also if you have anybody you can suggest i talk to.
Terry – send him a PM.
For what it is worth – I would park the dollars in a term deposit for 3/6 months max and spend the time learning, learning, learning. You have a great opportunity to set yourself up and getting your head around some of the options available to you would be to your long term advantage.
By your own admission 'you are fresh to the investing front' so taking a slow journey at this stage wont go astray.
Good point Luke – I hadn't considered the PPOR aspect of the property. Having said that I understand the owners can opt out of NRAS along the way. From memory it is an annual opt in type arrangement.
The key for me is that the property must fundamentally stack up without tax credits. I have seen a few NRAS properties marketed and the over-riding message is the $100K tax credits. Little mention of the fundamentals – so, don't be seduced by the tax credits associated with NRAS.
Hi Mick,
No foresight – but on this topic I did catch an article by Margaret Lomas which said something like 'avoid one trick ponies' – in other words if the the area's future is tied to a single infrastructure project (Kawana Hospital, rail to Redcliffe peninsula etc) then the performance of the area is very much tied to that project and it's construction and performance.
I did read around the traps there were some thoughts about FIFO from the Sunshine Coast into some of the mines in inner Qld. Not sure if that was the musings of a reporter or something based on facts.
nightelves wrote:I was told by a bank managerStop right there.
Unless there are extreme circumstances I would always use a broker over bank staff.
If nothing else a bank employee only has access to their products – a broker can access many products from different banks. Your best option may be another bank – can't see your manager telling you to go up the road for a better deal.
Hi Kris,
Been up to my armpits painting – sorry about the delayed response.
Richard has confirmed what I suspected you will not be in a position to borrow for new home. Not being a broker keeps me out of those ever finance changing loops.
Given this the only option you really have is to 'sell up' and use the proceeds to buy a new home outright.
I don't recall seeing any reference to mortgage or security considerations on your IP. If there are second mortgage/security type issues with any loans that may be in place make sure you can retain all funds from your property sale without having to use any to clear existing debts or security.
And our resident tax man Terry has clarified the loan/security/tax issue.
Hope the picture is a little clearer for you now.
scha9799 wrote:you can put 1.2 million in the bank at interest rate 6%,
First part of this post would only apply if it were cash and not equity.
KrisL wrote:The reason I was not too fussed about the non-deductible debt is I already have a property loss that is carried over (due to the fact I couldn't use it to reduce my taxable income as I haven't worked).If you are not careful with property selection you may find yourself in a situation where your accruing losses keep on accruing. From a cashflow perspective you would be better off looking at the whole situation. That is what happens if you do/don't sell your existing home to your cashflow. Rather than just looking at each of your properties separately also look at them in total. You may find what one takes away the other gives and vice versa.
Quote:I feel reluctant to sell because of selling costs, and the general wisdom of buying and holding.Selling costs can be a pain in the backside and you would need to get some accurate details on what exactly you would be up for. I often find people cite 'being afraid of selling costs' without actually knowing the dollars involved.
Quote:I don't want to jeapordise my future or my children's assets in the future because my income is limited so I need to be wise about my assets.Adding more non-deductible debt would be a hinderance to this aim. You may be better looking at a sell off, re-purchase and then invest option if you are able to sustain any further borrowings. Given the information provided to date I would suggest this would be extremely unlikely. Find yourself a broker to chat with as knowing your borrowing capacity will be to your advanatge as you start fine-tuning options.
Quote:But if it is not an option to hold, or rather not that attractive an option, then I don' feel so bad selling a sizeable asset and moving on.Moving on is sometimes good for the sole. Having said that I get a sesne that you still need to crunch some more numbers and find out some more facts.
Quote:The other thing I don't know if I should consider is the fact that my current residence is unlikely to gain very much in the short term as it is a higher priced asset for the suburb,Most expensive property in the street are always an issue. Ceratinly it may be some time for you to regain true value in your house. Couple this with the emotions of the area maybe a clean break is most beneficial. But as I said earlier do some detailed maths – see if you can find someone who is a good property strategist/divergent thinker and is able to listen to your point of view.
All the best with it
Hi Kosta,
Congrats on the first bud on your family tree.
For me it would appear as if the 'equity' is burning a hole in your pocket and reading Steve's first book is a little like pouring petrol on the fire. Key issue for you to remember is you are only 30 and you do have time on your side so decisions do not have to be made in haste.
I would add that the world has changed a fair bit since Steve wrote his first book and times are different.
Was reading an article in BRW Dec, 2011 edition yesterday and they note that property investors will have to be more actively involved in their property investing than they were 10 years ago. Many mum and dad type people made great gains more by accident than design and some of the simple buy and hold type deals will not provide the same returns over the next five/ten years. In essence BRW were advocating a value adding type approach along with selection of property alongside major developments where jump up in values were more likely with development progressing.
First thing to do is read a few other books so you get a more balanced point of view – Lomas, Yardney, Somers, Spann all wrote decent property books which you may find of use.
Second thing to do is to start to identify people you can work with and rely upon to help you along the way. Brokers, accoutants, solicitors that sort of thing. Taking advice from friends and family can be risky unless they too are successful proeprty investors.
Third thing is to set yourself some sort of long term goal – this may be a little foggy at the moment but it will become clearer as you read more widely and start recognising strategies that are more suited to you and your situation.
And finally start small – get your head around the ins and outs of property investing through practical experience rather than book learning. By starting small you minimise the chance of expensive mistakes and your learnign journey will begin.
All the best with it.
Hi Kris,
You are going to be hamstrung by limited/compromised borrowing capacity and on this basis alone I would be reluctant to take out a new PPOR loan. While your rental income will increase this would be offset against a jump up in your non-deductible debt.
Having said that from an asset value point of view you are well placed – albeit your income level may be contraining you somewhat.
Is there a reason you are thinking of moving your home?
To me this is the key issue and the correct course of action may well be hidden underneath this reason.
Hi Eric,
In addition to rejigging your loans I would also look at making sure you have completed an Pay As You Go Withholding Tax form (or whatever it is called now) and doing this in conjunction with a depreciation report.
While this is a little smoke and mirrors type trick it does help with the hear and now.
Pat007 wrote:Rockingham when i last lived in Perth was considered by reputation to be an undesireable area to live for crime rate and things like that.I don't believe things have changed that much Pat. Some interesting developments going on in the beachside and just back from the beach streets.
Know what you mean – budget considerations are always a major issue.
If you can afford it I would suggest Perth is a better option than Bunbury. Getting as close to city centre as possible is an even better option.
We are looking at some North Perth options with potential rent return of 9%. Was also speaking with a Vic Park property manager today and she said rental 'home opens' in northern suburbs and close to the city are attracting big crowds and it isn't unusal to see rental applications going in above askin gprice. Message wasn't the same for southern suburbs.
Hope this helps.
Hi Jeff,
For what it is worth – your statement "how prices in Bunbury and Rockingham could rise" could applay equally to all Perth suburbs and also to many parts of WA.
Rental market in the inner ring (just outisde the Perth CBD) seems to be tightening at the moment. REIWA reported 25% more sales this year than at the same time last year (even though median prices remain relatively static), some mining companies are moving head office staff into Perth and there is a reported demand for furnishing units in West Perth, North Perth type areas.
For mine money is better spent in these areas than Bunbury and/or Rockingham.
Without knowing your goals and situation it is hard to comment further.
dkb87 wrote:Hi Derek,To tell you the truth we dont really know what kind of investment property we are seeking yet, just trying to gather info at the moment still as we have only just bought our first house but I am keen on getting into property investment asap. I dont mind dealing with people or advisors who are not in my state, if I know they are reputable in what they do.
Hi Dk,
Given you have recently bought your first home it is highly possible you have limited investment options at this point in time – limited equity in your own home for starters. Now clearly this may not necessarily be the case so a chat with a broker may be a good place to start so you can find out what your financial position is in terms of borrowing money.
If you get a favourable response then you can start getting the wheels seriously moving. If the answer is not yet then you have time to do, as Jamie said earlier, some more reading, research and knowledge acquisition so when the time is right you are in a position to move.
Just my thoughts.
Was on a Webinar earlier this week with a Sydney based buyers agency who were doing some work in the area. Returns and prices looked reasonable.
Hi Dkb,
Have you identifed the type of property you are seeking and your state of preference?
The reason I ask is that there are buyers agents (some of mixed quality I might add) who have a particular focus on particular properties in particular states.
If part of the attraction of Destiny was they have an office in Perth you will find business can be done remotely and there really isn't a great need to go face to face. In saying that I am aware some people (and you may be one of them) do like to eyeball their 'advisor' at least once so they can get a feel for them.
Generally speaking purpose built student accommodation is cashflow positive and people can dive into these types of property for cashflow alone. Trouble is a number of the 'other' reasons against student accommodation, such as those mentioned here, do not become evident until it is too late.
Clearly research is/was needed to avoid these pitfalls..
Goldfish or Great Dane – does make a difference.
Some states allow you to add clauses and penalties specifcially relating to the leasing of a property to a tenant with pets.
Check your states 'tenancy acts' to see what applies in your state.
Some pets are not a problem and having them onboard too can be a good thing. Make sure you get before and after photos.
If the property is strata titled you will need to chekc your by-laws as there may be some rules applyign to pets in the complex.
No worries – hope it helps
FF430 wrote:Our aim is to pay off our mortgage of 368K and produce an income of 50K to replace my wife's income so we can start a family. .Hi FF,
It would appear as if your aim is not consistent with the proposal put on the table.
Bottom line is if you want to pay off your home sooner and replace your wife's income then you will need to look at other investment strategies.
As others have said negative gearing relies on the property increasing in value. I would hasten to add the $100-$150/week shiortfall is based on taodays interest rates – any increases to these and your shortfall will increase by a similar margin too.
I might add the 4 yrs between purchases and reduction of costs is something no-one can predict.